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Title: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: hdnut on January 13, 2007, 01:21:30 PM
I'm putting on a new rear tire.My question is should I change the front at the same time?I have 7500 mile's on my Seeg,the rear is worn out,the front does not look bad but it is at the dealer for winter storage.Just thought I should do both at the same time??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=orange.gif]
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Hoist! on January 13, 2007, 01:26:12 PM
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I'm putting on a new rear tire.My question is should I change the front at the same time?I have 7500 mile's on my Seeg,the rear is worn out,the front does not look bad but it is at the dealer for winter storage.Just thought I should do both at the same time??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=orange.gif]

The rear always goes way before the front. It's not necessary to change them together. You'll probaly get another rear out of it before you need to change the front. That's been my experience with my RKs. ;) Hoist!  8-)
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Fired00d on January 13, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
Front tire every other rear tire change is the norm.

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Fired00d
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Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: hdnut on January 13, 2007, 01:35:47 PM
Thanks that what I thought. [smiley=orange.gif]
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Midnight Rider on January 14, 2007, 12:13:01 AM
The only thing that would make me change the front is if you are going to a different tire/tread pattern on the rear.  If sticking with the same Dunlop that came on the bike, no need to do the front.  The new Dunlop Elite3 is an excellent tire from members here who have put it on.  When I next change rears, I will put these new tires on both ends.
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: erniezap on January 15, 2007, 04:36:08 PM
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The only thing that would make me change the front is if you are going to a different tire/tread pattern on the rear.  If sticking with the same Dunlop that came on the bike, no need to do the front.  The new Dunlop Elite3 is an excellent tire from members here who have put it on.  When I next change rears, I will put these new tires on both ends.

That's if you can get them with Dunlop being on strike for so long.  I needed a rear and couldn't find one anywhere.  Local Dealer called me to let me know that they had a new bike delivery and the guy wanted white walls, so I could get this "used" tire with 5 miles on it for 20% off retail.  I believe that tires will start coming in mid February or so...
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Bagger on January 15, 2007, 06:22:02 PM
I haven't changed my rear tire yet, but I'm getting close.  I'm just over 7100 miles.  I'm used to getting 5000 miles out of back tires on my 02 Ultra.  On that machine, I changed the front tire after every two back tires.  I'm pretty anal about tires, and tend to change before I hit wear bars.  I will not run anything other than stock tires.  They work well, I'm confident they will not come out from under me, and I just don't think I'd have that confidence with another tire.  I've seen people wreck like that.
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: JR on January 15, 2007, 07:24:21 PM
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That's if you can get them with Dunlop being on strike for so long.  I needed a rear and couldn't find one anywhere.  Local Dealer called me to let me know that they had a new bike delivery and the guy wanted white walls, so I could get this "used" tire with 5 miles on it for 20% off retail.  I believe that tires will start coming in mid February or so...

You know Earnie, I was expecting a hard time to find the Elite 3's when I purchased them in November. I found them at a decent price and were delivered in 3 days to the front door! I should have ordered another rear right then and there! Oh well, strikes over, shouldn't be long to get one....I hope! ;D

                                                                         JR
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: hdnut on January 15, 2007, 09:03:56 PM
I did not know they were on strike?Dealer told me today they would come in any day now?With 6 inches of new snow here in the last 24 hours, it does not matter,I did get to see my seeg today,that was nice!!! [smiley=orange.gif]
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 15, 2007, 09:38:02 PM
Hey since this thread is about rear tires. What's the deal with the fat tire on the rear of the 2007 SEUC ?  What else is different to make this work ? My 07 Road Glide has a lot skinnier belt than my 03 SERK. Is this the reason. Will the tire on the 07 SEUC mount up to my 07 RG ? Inquiring minds need to know.

Big B  
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 18, 2007, 10:16:47 PM
What's this, am I becoming a thread killer ?  I ask a good honest question and the thread goes into a deep freeze for a week.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

B B
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Twolanerider on January 18, 2007, 10:21:21 PM
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What's this, am I becoming a thread killer ?  I ask a good honest question and the thread goes into a deep freeze for a week.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

B B


Wasn't going to say anything man.  But... um... try a breath mint?   [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 18, 2007, 10:37:51 PM
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Wasn't going to say anything man.  But... um... try a breath mint?   [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

You mean I should soak my Tucks in Scope ?  :o

B B
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Twolanerider on January 18, 2007, 10:46:12 PM
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You mean I should soak my Tucks in Scope ?  :o

B B


Hmmm, maybe I didn't think this through.  

I know, pour the stuff in the keyboard [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] !
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: displacing air on January 18, 2007, 10:54:34 PM
Brain,

Maybe it was one of those questions that had every one stumped?

I would have answered it...but I know "I dont know" wouldnt of been the answer you were lookin for.

Go Pats...get the salsa ready!

Barry
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: SPIDERMAN on January 18, 2007, 11:00:49 PM
Thanks Barry,
                   My parts wizard Freddy at SD H-D is down with the flu and Richard his fill-in is an old timey biker with no use for anything newer than a Shovelhead. I'll go see Fred when he gets back.

B B
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: ultrafxr on January 19, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
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Hey since this thread is about rear tires. What's the deal with the fat tire on the rear of the 2007 SEUC ?  What else is different to make this work ? My 07 Road Glide has a lot skinnier belt than my 03 SERK. Is this the reason. Will the tire on the 07 SEUC mount up to my 07 RG ? Inquiring minds need to know.

Big B  
B B, maybe I don't understand your question.  But the H-D specs show that the electra glides
(including the SEUC), road glide, road king, etc., all take MU85B16 on the rear.  Not sure when this started but did in '06 for sure and I think began earlier than that.  Think that is why they thinned up the drive belt - to make more room.
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Hoist! on January 19, 2007, 04:27:25 PM
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B B, maybe I don't understand your question.  But the H-D specs show that the electra glides
(including the SEUC), road glide, road king, etc., all take MU85B16 on the rear.  Not sure when this started but did in '06 for sure and I think began earlier than that.  Think that is why they thinned up the drive belt - to make more room.

The '07 SERK has a wider rear and front tire. But it's a 170/60R17 78H Radial Tire and uses a wider swingarm. It matches that with a 130/70R18 63H. That's a 17" rear and 18" front. I'm not sure about the EC's or UC's. I think they're still the 16" size that you state here Jerry. ;) Hoist! 8-)
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: djkak on January 19, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
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Hey since this thread is about rear tires. What's the deal with the fat tire on the rear of the 2007 SEUC ?  What else is different to make this work ? My 07 Road Glide has a lot skinnier belt than my 03 SERK. Is this the reason. Will the tire on the 07 SEUC mount up to my 07 RG ? Inquiring minds need to know.

Big B  

Spiderman,

You must mean “What’s the deal with the fat tire on the rear of the 2007 SERK?” The SEUC and your FLTR both run the same MU85, Dunlop. This tire was first used on Touring machines in 2004.

You will need a good shoehorn, some powerful incense and a real scary chant to get the 170 radial under the back of your Glide. Grover has some good “Tech” for the the bolt-on fat tire FL.

djkak


Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Hoist! on January 19, 2007, 10:20:35 PM
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Spiderman,

You must mean “What’s the deal with the fat tire on the rear of the 2007 SERK?” The SEUC and your FLTR both run the same MU85, Dunlop. This tire was first used on Touring machines in 2004.

You will need a good shoehorn, some powerful incense and a real scary chant to get the 170 radial under the back of your Glide. Grover has some good “Tech” for the the bolt-on fat tire FL.

djkak



You could always order an '07 SERK swingarm, rear fender, wheels and tires! ::) Hoist! 8-)
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: djkak on January 19, 2007, 10:52:24 PM
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You could always order an '07 SERK swingarm, rear fender, wheels and tires! ::) Hoist! 8-)

I believe that the frame’s tail section is much wider on the 07 SERK than the others. You will need the powerful incense and chant for that!

djkak
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Hoist! on January 19, 2007, 11:01:06 PM
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I believe that the frame’s tail section is much wider on the 07 SERK than the others. You will need the powerful incense and chant for that!

djkak

Hey DJ, you're saying they actually made a special frame for this model? The P/N for a B/I FLHRSE3 is P/N 47900-07BHP. The "BHP" is the color code. What's the stock frame P/N? I know the swingarm is wider for sure. I can't believe they'd make a one-off frame for only 9000 bikes! :o Hoist! 8-)
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: djkak on January 20, 2007, 02:30:12 PM
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Hey DJ, you're saying they actually made a special frame for this model? The P/N for a B/I FLHRSE3 is P/N 47900-07BHP. The "BHP" is the color code. What's the stock frame P/N? I know the swingarm is wider for sure. I can't believe they'd make a one-off frame for only 9000 bikes! :o Hoist! 8-)

HD ran a proprietary frame on the 2006 FLSTFSE. A 200mm tire will not fit into any pre 2006 Softail without a Sawzall and a shoehorn. You might be able to skip the Sawzall piece with the Deuce; I can’t say for sure.

Park your new machine next to a standard Road King and “eyeball” the center distance of the rear fender rails between the two machines; there is a substantial difference. This is the thing that is so exciting about this years SE Road King; it is a real glimpse into the future of the Touring platform; IMHO.

djkak
Title: Re: Putting on a new rear tire!
Post by: Twolanerider on January 20, 2007, 02:38:15 PM
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HD ran a proprietary frame on the 2006 FLSTFSE. A 200mm tire will not fit into any pre 2006 Softail without a Sawzall and a shoehorn. You might be able to skip the Sawzall piece with the Deuce; I can’t say for sure.

Park your new machine next to a standard Road King and “eyeball” the center distance of the rear fender rails between the two machines; there is a substantial difference. This is the thing that is so exciting about this years SE Road King; it is a real glimpse into the future of the Touring platform; IMHO.

djkak

THAT was precisely something I've been so interested in about the rear of these things.  Did now know yet precisely what all the differences were.  Only that there were differences with these 07s.  That being so one has to hope that it is Harley finally beginning to address all the wander, rear steer, swingarm bushing and other points of contention that have been part of the package for so many years.  It's not as if they've haven't had an extended time to consider it.  But these hardware, geometry and tire changes are the first dramatic and overall changes we've seen for a long time.  Very interested in seeing what they do, how well they do, and what the resulting differences are on the ground.