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[Dave McDowall]

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[RGlideKid]

One more comment I would like to address. I am not sure what about Jerry Palladino any woman would find insulting. He has as many women riders in his videos as men and even his wife is on them. IMHO, there would be a real hard reach for anyone to find themselves "offended" by anything I watched or heard him say.

I've got the 5th edition of his DVD and he does like to joke with the ladies, but I've never seen him get out of hand with them, but then he's on video too.  I don't know what he's like in real life.  Then again, I've seen his wife kid right back with him too.  Maybe he was a little "sexist" in his earlier vids but if so, he seems to have toned it down by my 5th edition.
Overlooking all personal things...the man can ride a Harley and so can his wife and their crew.  His video helped me a lot, which helps even more when pulling the Bushtec.
As to the question at hand, it depends on location, but I usually keep her in first at a busy intersection.

[92fxsts]

I know this topic is stale, but I read the attached article in the February American Motorcyclist Magazine.  Apparently the AMA or the MSF is also reading this forum and has their .02 worth to add.  Personally I consider whether the signal is stale, what the temperature outside is, how tired my hands are, etc.. and then I may or may not go neutral.  How is that for being precise?

[kiro]

Apparently the AMA or the MSF is also reading this forum and has their .02 worth to add.

Thanks for posting this short article... They recommended staying in gear for the reasons stated, which makes sense. I think the most important consideration mentioned was making sure the intersection is clear before proceeding. It sure seems like many vehicles are 'pushing the envelop' at light changes rather than sitting through another red these days...

[CVODON]

Do you take your pick-up/car etc out of gear at a light?

[bigchuck]

Just curious.  When you come to a red traffic light, how many of you shift to neutral and let go of the clutch  and just chill?  Also, do you all use engine braking when slowing down?
Glen

As said before stay in first and watch your mirrors. Motorcycles have 3 brakes. Front, rear and engine. I use all of them.

[08glide]

5 keys of defensive driving ( smith system) in the trucking industry. All Good Kids Love Milk
A - aim high   G-get the big picture    K- keep your eyes moving    L- leave yourself an out  (HARD TO DO IN NEUTRAL )
M- make sure they see you ( make eye contact)

[68 XLCH]

Depends on the situation.

Just stay alert, in or out of gear.

Definitely down shift for braking, when appropriate.

[cyril]

Aman!!! Right foot on brake, left foot on ground. Watching mirrors for traffic coming up behind me. I have actually been close to getting slammed. I pulled in between two cars and the ding dong lady smacked right into the car I was sitting behind. She was texting.
That said, I swear on all that is holy I see almost nobody else doing this. I have been on group rides and darned near wet myself when the light turns green and all I hear around me is clack clack clack as all the other bikes are putting her in first to go.

Any group is only as good as the worst rider , cant beat 5/6 riders you know well enough .

[Road Dad]

Jerry is great in real life. Long time ago since he was a motor officer though and the skills he teaches are very simple. First day stuff in any motor officer class.

I've got the 5th edition of his DVD and he does like to joke with the ladies, but I've never seen him get out of hand with them, but then he's on video too.  I don't know what he's like in real life.  Then again, I've seen his wife kid right back with him too.  Maybe he was a little "sexist" in his earlier vids but if so, he seems to have toned it down by my 5th edition.
Overlooking all personal things...the man can ride a Harley and so can his wife and their crew.  His video helped me a lot, which helps even more when pulling the Bushtec.
As to the question at hand, it depends on location, but I usually keep her in first at a busy intersection.

[dayne66]

Pretty much NEVER.