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[DavidB]

That's what Zanotti's shows too. But they still show the one w/o the "A", 31619-06 as the Black one. What about Chicago? Do they show it as "A"? MY SERK Parts Book shows the "A". I'm curious whether my starter is the "A" mod or an older one. That's one way to make sure they replace it! I'm hoping they w.....ty my starter. Then I'll pay the $150 difference and no labor for the chrome one.. Maybe HD just wanted me to have their chrome chit. That's why this happened! Hoist!

The a version does not show up on the Chicago web sight.

[Hoist!]

The a version does not show up on the Chicago web sight.

Strange things going on in Harley Partsland! It's clearly Rev "A" in the SERK Parts Catalog (99433-07), p.43! Hopefully it won't matter and I'll be getting the chrome one which is an "A" mod! Hoist!

[skreminegul07]

Thanks Rog, and thanks for the input Mikey, and welcome to Full Club membership with your 100th Post! I haven't heard anything about an ECM flash, but the PC should be able to take care of timing issues, once I dyno it. I hadn't heard about these timing issues from anyone else yet. The tech said that the jackshaft pinion gear wasn't returning fast enough, causing this. He attributed this to a bad starter as the main culprit in the chain of events. Who knows. I hope he replaces as much as they let him. He's a pretty good guy, but I guess they have procedures, for certain failures, that the factory must get involved in. I'll see what they come back with, once it's apart. Hoist!

Hoist,  The ECM flash was the recall for all 2007 engines released October /November last year for Torque smoothing.
My dealer explained it was to avoid issues with slamming the throttle while lugging the motor sub 1800RPM.
Actually I had it installed last week and it improved the shift points.  Before the flash, I felt I was always in the wrong gear as in carrying a passenger.  Too much hifting.  Your sERK would already have this ECM flash.
Happy Easter!

[Hoist!]

Hoist,  The ECM flash was the recall for all 2007 engines released October /November last year for Torque smoothing.
My dealer explained it was to avoid issues with slamming the throttle while lugging the motor sub 1800RPM.
Actually I had it installed last week and it improved the shift points.  Before the flash, I felt I was always in the wrong gear as in carrying a passenger.  Too much hifting.  Your sERK would already have this ECM flash.
Happy Easter!

Thanks skremin, I'll have them check it when I'm there next week. I didn't hear about that one. Only the rear cylinder cut-out one. Hoist!

[Hoist!]

The bike's at the dealer. They'll take it apart tomorrow and get their authorizations from the Factory. I'm expecting a new starter (chrome) and clutch hub. That will fix the broken junk. He'll put on a chrome inner primary too. That's all providing he has to remove the inner and that the starter gets replaced under w.....ty.

Speedo's on the fritz too! Reads LLLLLL instead of miles on the odometer. He's gonna check it and probably replace that too. He's gonna try to get the bike back to me before York! So far, no Wednesday bike! But the new handlebars are great!

Hoist!

[Puzzled]

http://www.compufire.com/pages/harley-main.html

[Hoist!]

http://www.compufire.com/pages/harley-main.html

Thanks Puzzled, but I don't think MoCo's paying for that stuff. That's what they should be using in the first place though! Hoist!

[Puzzled]

No, I don't suspect they will. Save that link should it go sour again.

[Hoist!]

No, I don't suspect they will. Save that link should it go sour again.

Already done. You never know. When I get rid of the ACR's next year, I might just need one! Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Just got the call from the Tech at HD. The clutch hub with the broken starter ring gear teeth, and the starter with the broken jackshaft pinion gear, both will be replaced. He will use a chrome starter and charge me the difference. The inner primary doesn't have to be removed to do this job, so if I want the chrome inner primary, I have to pay for it, and 1 hour labor. I guess that's fair, but thought it would be no big deal to just change it for me. After all, I'm being inconvenienced with their deficiencies. Whatever, I told him to proceed anyway. Some things are worth fighting about and some aren't! Now you know why I'm making sure my bike is set up right on my own. Fighting over w.....ty is not worth my time. And I know these people pretty well too! I'll save the fighting for the worthwhile things! FTW!!! They're going to try to finish by Wed since they don't have a chrome starter. Cutting it close for York, but I'll keep mt fingers crossed! Hoist!

[ultrafxr]

That's good news Howie.  That is going to look sharp.

Hope they get that chrome starter in soon.  They can overnight them but I doubt the moco would spring for the cost to do that, lol.

Jerry

[Billy]

The bike's at the dealer. They'll take it apart tomorrow and get their authorizations from the Factory. I'm expecting a new starter (chrome) and clutch hub. That will fix the broken junk. He'll put on a chrome inner primary too. That's all providing he has to remove the inner and that the starter gets replaced under w.....ty.

Speedo's on the fritz too! Reads LLLLLL instead of miles on the odometer. He's gonna check it and probably replace that too. He's gonna try to get the bike back to me before York! So far, no Wednesday bike! But the new handlebars are great!

Hoist! hoist, what bars did you end up with. My custom bars are finally coming in on Fri. Do  you have any pictures. Thanks Billy

[Midnight Rider]

Just got the call from the Tech at HD. The clutch hub with the broken starter ring gear teeth, and the starter with the broken jackshaft pinion gear, both will be replaced. He will use a chrome starter and charge me the difference. The inner primary doesn't have to be removed to do this job, so if I want the chrome inner primary, I have to pay for it, and 1 hour labor. I guess that's fair, but thought it would be no big deal to just change it for me. After all, I'm being inconvenienced with their deficiencies. Whatever, I told him to proceed anyway. Some things are worth fighting about and some aren't! Now you know why I'm making sure my bike is set up right on my own. Fighting over w.....ty is not worth my time. And I know these people pretty well too! I'll save the fighting for the worthwhile things! FTW!!! They're going to try to finish by Wed since they don't have a chrome starter. Cutting it close for York, but I'll keep mt fingers crossed! Hoist!

Hoist....for an hour labor, that would be a no-brainer for me too.  The chome inner is just something the bike really needs, IMO.  Really sets the whole engine off...

[Hoist!]

Thanks Jerry, I even told them I'd pay the freight extra. Let's see if they can get it done.

Hey Billy, I used the Wild 1 Chubby 10" Mini Apes WO 515. It worked out great. Just had to change the front brake line.

Yeah Terry, I wouldn't take the whole thing a part just to replace the inner primary. But since it's going to be apart anyway, it's not a bad deal to do it now. i agree, the chrome inner and chrome starter with the true duals, sets everything off nice!

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Well gang, keep any eye on your starter ring gears! I was told my clutch hub is on National back order because HD's changing the design/materials to try to fix the run of problems their having with the current one. They're not installing them anymore in new bikes. They are using a new PN from here on in, when it's available. They've been making ring gears without problems forever. WTF??? They said the new starter design puts much more stress on the ring gear, requiring a design/material change. Therefore, no SERK for me for a few weeks probably. They better get it back to me before my CVO pickup ride!!! Damn this sucks!!! Needless to say, Hoist is not a happy camper right now! FTF! FTW! Hoist!