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[Bgpig]

I just picked up have a 2001 Screaming Eagle RG.  Couple of questions,

First, Did this bike come out of the factory with with SE 203 cams? Or a cam other than the one that is stock on a TC?  

Second, being ignorant of the MM fuel injection set up, can I add heads to this bike for a little more ummphh?  I would like to add more torque over the whole rpm range.  I have a set of the SE heads on my 95" Fatboy, and would like the same results.

I want to do this without having to dump a bunch of money into it?  The bike only has 2200 miles on it and the only thing I have done to it is the SE stage 1 and Bassani slip ons.  

Third question, what would it entail to convert this motor to the Delphi Fuel injection?  Bunch of Money and Time?  Is it more trouble than it is worth?

Thanks,
Tom

[OTIS]

bgpig    203 cams was factory                   otis

[mfgreen]

I just picked up have a 2001 Screaming Eagle RG.

[hd2003-se2005]

MFG

Not sure how to interpret your response.
Were these changes that you made on the bike that was wrecked? If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I was thinking you had an 03 SERK. 03 SERK's are all 103's I thought.
Your response is like you have a bike there with you now and you plan to get those 4 more horses once you do the final tuning. You said, this bike easily competes with many more built bikes because it is properly tuned. That statement is one of the present tense not a statement of a bike previous owned.

I believe in truth in advertising so I pose the next request to be
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Would like to see the dyno run to back this up!
Please!

[mfgreen]

MFG

Not sure how to interpret your response.
Were these changes that you made on the bike that was wrecked? If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I was thinking you had an 03 SERK. 03 SERK's are all 103's I thought.
Your response is like you have a bike there with you now and you plan to get those 4 more horses once you do the final tuning. You said, this bike easily competes with many more built bikes because it was properly tuned. That statement is one of the present tense not a statement of a bike previous owned.

I believe in truth in advertising so I pose the next request to be
 [smiley=worthless.gif]
Would like to see the dyno run to back this up!
Please!

Nope Chip,

Changes made to a SERG that a friend of mine currently owns.

[hd2003-se2005]

Mike

"YES"
I doubted you.
I truly feel that we ALL have a certain responsibility to the readers of this great site to present FACTS as factual as possible for posting.
"YES"
I doubted you.
The response you gave Bgpig was one that appeared to be on your bike that was just done. You said "I expect 4 more horses after final tuning", well hell the dyno results you gave were from June 03. There has been a whole boatload of advances since that date but you present your response as if it was today or yesterday.

I'm not sure what the "crows wings with hot sauce" bullchit is about but I know there are lots of people like me that read and study what people say on this website and then make their choices. The presentation of information posing as facts (even two year old facts) is wrong when it's presented as first party information. What I mean is that after you take a position of authority that this is what they need to do to make more horsepower, at least tell everyone the facts you are presenting are yours, a friends, a client or whatever.

In my garage I have 2 sets of cylinders, a power commander for the old style fuel injection, Millium cylinders, couple set of heads, DFO's, Samson mufflers, screaming eagle mufflers, a stainless steel set of headers and thousands of dollars worth of parts people have recommended in the past. In my post(s) I try to only make representation as to what has worked (and not worked) for me.

[mfgreen]

Would it at any creedence to your argument that I wrenched for a while on that bike during that time.  Would it help your critique that I was there for the dyno runs that helped determine the correct exhaust.   Show me the better technology for an "00-01 SERG.  You do not have it and the information that I gave is solid.  The design for the H-D 95" motor is yesterdays news.  That is why you have yesterday's news.

[booboosboss]

WHEW !!! FUNNY HOW A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN START A $HIT STORM [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ....

[hd2003-se2005]

Good post BooBoosBoss!

The key to your info is your words of

"On my 01 I've installed"

That's the best recomendation!

Like you I have made changes to mine and havn't dynoed it.

It's that seat of the pants increase in excitement that I like!

[hd2003-se2005]

MFG

I have thought about  my response to your last post.

Then I realized it doesn't matter.

All I have asked of you is that when you present "facts" please make sure that the real source of those "facts" is  given credit. Credibility is just like respect, it needs to be earned.

Hope the healing process is going well.
Where was the place or dealership that you had your accident?

Also when were you going to send those pins for the CVO rally?

[mfgreen]

MFG

I have thought about

[hd2003-se2005]

My point exactly Chip,
Who gets Credit? OK Mike my responses are shown with ****    (**** The person that paid the price for this work is the only one that has the right to speak first hand ****)

The owner or any     (****or all the wrenches***now your story changes again, you said "I did all the engine assembly****)     on the bike or just who? Harley Davidson?
The PowerCommander? The designer of the baseline map?

I was there helped in the assemblage of parts and that in combination produced a motor with those results.  Many people turned wrenches on that motor  The question was out there I fielded it and you and others are questioning credit?    (****Leave everyone else out Mike, this is me and you,,, and yes I'm questioning credit when your post presents facts as if they are current and you created them***)      The answer becomes unclear and garbled and off topic with your question.  Is that your point, to make a mockery of something I was proud of and had firsthand knowledge of,    (****your the one who has made a mockery of your own post by trying to take credit for the results you posted****)     or was it just to add another comment to prove some semblance of superiority?

Chiming in in a judgemental comment doesn't help the situation.  What exctly have you contributed to the technical question that was asked here?  Admittedly, Candy,     (**** leave her out of this, if you want to play this stupid game out, just involve me and leave her alone****)      you are not mechanically inclined, however I am certain that your abilities to glean firsthand knowledge from the ownership of any bike will provide great insight to this question posed in this thread.  Yet, you have not proffered any of this and seem to be posting way off topic here.  Possibly, with the .02 added times two, the owner of this SERG can now afford to buy the parts to make a duplicate of this motor and get similar results to fulfill the answer to this question.     (****Mike what really needs to happen is for "your Friend" to post the two year old results of his motor and give credit to everyone that's due for the combination to acheive the results that you have taken credit for****)

****Will that happen, I hope so, but really doubt it.****


****In summary, I apologize to this site for my above comments that seem out of topic.
Reporting facts as facts is extremly important to me. I hope that we all realize that the information we report on this site is subject to being used by anyone. With the authority of presenting the facts also come the responsibility of presenting them truthfully! ****

Chip  

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[mfgreen]

So as a "builder" you are not really a builder, and in most cases it would be the financial institution that put out the money?  That is an interesting perspective, Chip.  The guy that owns the bike works as an engineer at H-D.  It has been recommended that he not post on this site for reasons of job security.  If one is to post comments about your off topic comments and have not contributed to what is on topic I think that my opinion of their post is warranted.  The motor has taken many different, forms during it's transformation to this point.  One of the contributors to it is BC Gerolamy for porting the heads and the throttle body.  Another is the guy that mined the ore, another is the guy that smelted it.........and on and on.  You certainly like to take a simple answer, Chip, and turn it into a Babylon.  We are here to share technical info that can be proven and it has absolutely no bearing at all on the outcome of the results if this combination works or not because that would take away your opportunity to to do some trash talking, Chip.  I know that you are doing to do your best to stay on topic with this, or are you?

Mike [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[hd2003-se2005]

OK Mike you win!

Presentation of someone else's facts as if they were yours to present makes the presenter a liar.
And that is exactly what you do over and over again on this site.
You have no clue as to who you are costing money or hurting!  And as  I have learned, you don't really care as long it gets your post count up and our members to think you are supremely knowledgeable in your posting  of "the facts"

As I said above "you win" but count on the "fact" that I will  request back-up when you post second hand information as facts that you generate!

I think that is only fair to this site!

 

[mfgreen]

See ya