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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 12:57:01 PM »

I would wait til the end of August to order to see if there is indeed an updated version.  May be released at the dealer show.

Looks like I'll have to - seriously back ordered and no hope of getting one for a while the dealer says......

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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2012, 12:35:24 PM »

Looks like I'll have to - seriously back ordered and no hope of getting one for a while the dealer says......

Jim
Same thing I have been running into.  None available. 
Went on a 400 mile ride, started the bike the next day and was amazed at how loud the clankin' was.  I don't think I will be riding it until I can find some new parts to get it fixed. 
I love having a $40000 garage ornament during our short riding season.  Sad to think if I want to ride a Harley I need to have a spare just in case.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2012, 12:43:13 PM »

Same thing I have been running into.  None available. 
Went on a 400 mile ride, started the bike the next day and was amazed at how loud the clankin' was.  I don't think I will be riding it until I can find some new parts to get it fixed. 
I love having a $40000 garage ornament during our short riding season.  Sad to think if I want to ride a Harley I need to have a spare just in case.


Yup - as I say, my $50000 garage ornament in our [very] short riding season makes such a racket, I get embarrassed starting it if there's anyone there to hear.  Utterly disgraceful though.  I could buy a BMW 3-series car for less money, it wouldn't break in 20k miles, and if it did, parts would be available to fix it in short order.  Oh, and it has a 3 year warranty.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2012, 02:55:11 PM »

I did the removal on my primary this weekend and found an new issue, I am not so sure my compensator it trashed by any means.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2012, 02:57:53 PM »

No major marking yet with 5000 miles.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2012, 07:29:38 PM »


I read on another forum that a new release version is due the end of August.  May or may not be true.
Just bought a 08A compensator, so being my luck, a new version is probably coming. 



Has anybody heard anymore about a new version coming out?

I have had the current version on backorder for some time and it was supposed to arrive at the dealers this week.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2012, 04:42:37 AM »


Has anybody heard anymore about a new version coming out?

I have had the current version on backorder for some time and it was supposed to arrive at the dealers this week.

I haven't, though I keep watching for news, as I need one desperately!

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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2012, 05:01:56 PM »

Six days ago I dropped off my 2011 CVO Street Glide at the dealer because I was hearing a loud intermittant knocking noise from what appeared to be the primary. I told them to keep it and ride it until they heard the noise. That day they called and said they heard nothing. Told them to keep it and really ride the darn thing. Several days go by with similar responses. Yesterday I asked the service manager if they even looked inside the primary. Guess what... NO.

So I told them to pull the primary cover and look inside. If they saw nothing I told him I would come down and take a picture of the nothing and pay them for their labor. Since I'm friendly with their top mechanic I called him at home and asked him to take a personal look for me.

This morning they said to look at what they found. Went there and they had pulled the cover, disassembled the compensator, clutch and pulled off the inner primary cover to check for any bearing failures. Wear on the parts looked normal, really looked pretty new for 15,000 miles, so I told them to put it back together. I really felt good that nothing seemed to be wrong.

After waiting about 2 hours I saw the tech coming back from the test ride. Moments later the service manager asked me to come back in the shop and listen to a noise they heard.

Guess what, COMPENSATOR NOISE!!!! They were all shocked and couldn't believe that a compensator could make intermittant noises like I was describing.

Bike is still at shop while they waiting on the already back ordered SE Compenstator, plus they are going to install a NEW automatic chain tensioner.

Just goes to show that "NORMAL" by Harely's definition is not normal for the rest of the world. It took me pushing them to search for the problem and then going so far as to tell them to take it apart at my labor expense.

Knowing the head mechanic (who by the way just did my brothers cam/piston/head work at home on the side and will be doing my Yaffee bars soon) and getting him to do a hard look proved out to be my real advantage on this one.

I will say they were all very apologetic and will not be charging me for any of this labor.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2012, 05:25:08 PM »

Looks like you should install a Hayden M6BT07 and put an end to all these issues with too tight of primary chain. We've been addressing those problems since the late 1980s.


Six days ago I dropped off my 2011 CVO Street Glide at the dealer because I was hearing a loud intermittant knocking noise from what appeared to be the primary. I told them to keep it and ride it until they heard the noise. That day they called and said they heard nothing. Told them to keep it and really ride the darn thing. Several days go by with similar responses. Yesterday I asked the service manager if they even looked inside the primary. Guess what... NO.

So I told them to pull the primary cover and look inside. If they saw nothing I told him I would come down and take a picture of the nothing and pay them for their labor. Since I'm friendly with their top mechanic I called him at home and asked him to take a personal look for me.

This morning they said to look at what they found. Went there and they had pulled the cover, disassembled the compensator, clutch and pulled off the inner primary cover to check for any bearing failures. Wear on the parts looked normal, really looked pretty new for 15,000 miles, so I told them to put it back together. I really felt good that nothing seemed to be wrong.

After waiting about 2 hours I saw the tech coming back from the test ride. Moments later the service manager asked me to come back in the shop and listen to a noise they heard.

Guess what, COMPENSATOR NOISE!!!! They were all shocked and couldn't believe that a compensator could make intermittant noises like I was describing.

Bike is still at shop while they waiting on the already back ordered SE Compenstator, plus they are going to install a NEW automatic chain tensioner.

Just goes to show that "NORMAL" by Harely's definition is not normal for the rest of the world. It took me pushing them to search for the problem and then going so far as to tell them to take it apart at my labor expense.

Knowing the head mechanic (who by the way just did my brothers cam/piston/head work at home on the side and will be doing my Yaffee bars soon) and getting him to do a hard look proved out to be my real advantage on this one.

I will say they were all very apologetic and will not be charging me for any of this labor.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2012, 10:55:22 PM »

Looks like you should install a Hayden M6BT07 and put an end to all these issues with too tight of primary chain. We've been addressing those problems since the late 1980s.


Six days ago I dropped off my 2011 CVO Street Glide at the dealer because I was hearing a loud intermittant knocking noise from what appeared to be the primary. I told them to keep it and ride it until they heard the noise. That day they called and said they heard nothing. Told them to keep it and really ride the darn thing. Several days go by with similar responses. Yesterday I asked the service manager if they even looked inside the primary. Guess what... NO.

So I told them to pull the primary cover and look inside. If they saw nothing I told him I would come down and take a picture of the nothing and pay them for their labor. Since I'm friendly with their top mechanic I called him at home and asked him to take a personal look for me.

This morning they said to look at what they found. Went there and they had pulled the cover, disassembled the compensator, clutch and pulled off the inner primary cover to check for any bearing failures. Wear on the parts looked normal, really looked pretty new for 15,000 miles, so I told them to put it back together. I really felt good that nothing seemed to be wrong.

After waiting about 2 hours I saw the tech coming back from the test ride. Moments later the service manager asked me to come back in the shop and listen to a noise they heard.

Guess what, COMPENSATOR NOISE!!!! They were all shocked and couldn't believe that a compensator could make intermittant noises like I was describing.

Bike is still at shop while they waiting on the already back ordered SE Compenstator, plus they are going to install a NEW automatic chain tensioner.

Just goes to show that "NORMAL" by Harely's definition is not normal for the rest of the world. It took me pushing them to search for the problem and then going so far as to tell them to take it apart at my labor expense.

Knowing the head mechanic (who by the way just did my brothers cam/piston/head work at home on the side and will be doing my Yaffee bars soon) and getting him to do a hard look proved out to be my real advantage on this one.

I will say they were all very apologetic and will not be charging me for any of this labor.

If you can get Harley to cover that part under their warranty agreement I'll be all in. But I'm betting their warranty conditions statement will not allow anything other than an OEM part.
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Re: Compensator time bomb
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 11:19:14 PM »

Because we don't have any hooks into the system (we merely provide a surface for the chain to glide over) we do not void the Harley warranty.


If you can get Harley to cover that part under their warranty agreement I'll be all in. But I'm betting their warranty conditions statement will not allow anything other than an OEM part.
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