Topic: Exhaust decisions overload. Which one? Need help. (Read 8018 times)

aabokla · « **on:** June 26, 2006, 03:00:44 PM »

Seeing as how everyone on this board seems to be so helpful to those few CVO owners out there, I thought I might see if you guys could help to steer me in the right direction.

I'm needing some help on picking out an exhaust system for my 2006 FLSTFSE2 fatboy. Most of the guys I run into around my neck of the woods are running some product from Vance and Hines. Truth be told, my last pipe was one of theirs a big shot staggered and I liked the way it looked and sounded. But I’m thinking of going to something a little more exotic to match the uniqueness of this CVO bike.

Currently I’m running with the stock exhaust and it just sounds kinda wimpy. Whenever I meet up with some buds, my pipe always sounds “junior sized” compared to theirs and their running stock 88 motors. My father rides a ’03 heritage with BSS and when he starts his up it definitely drowns mine out in sound.

At any rate, I’m torn between the looks/sound and the performance worlds. I definitely want something that is louder than what I currently have but at the absolute bare minimum I can’t go less than what the stock exhaust outputs for performance. My guess/hope is that with the right pipe, this bike will feel like a new machine all together. On a side note, last week after reading through this forum I learned about the preload adjustment and checked mine. Apparently the dealer who set it up, had the pre-load adjustment turned all the way down to what I can only assume corresponds to the weight of a sub 100 pound person. After adjusting it to my weight the bike feels like a whole new machine and just puts a grin on me everytime I ride. Wow, I can actually feel the suspension working now! I guess I’m looking for that same sort of stark contrast with an exhaust change.

Considering I drive my bike to work as much as possible in an adjacent town, about 70% of my riding is all highway in the 3000RPM neighborhood. Speaking of neighbors, while I am somewhat concerned about the sound volume, it’s not my most pressing #1 concern. With that being said I almost never go riding without wearing ear plugs as the wind noise is deafening.

It doesn’t help that most of the information I’m finding across the internet seem to review how the various pipes perform on the 88 engine. From what I’ve gathered, what works on an 88 doesn’t necessarily translate into working well on the 103.

I’ll be adding a power commander to the mix and I’m scheduling a dyno tune with John of Rolling Thunder in mid-July. I plan on driving the bike to Sturgis this year from Oklahoma and I’ll be traveling with at least my dad if not a couple of other guys as well.

My concern is buying a pipe and then paying for a dyno tune to only be left feeling unsatisfied with the final outcome either in terms of sound, looks, or performance.

The short list of pipes I’m considering:

Bassani Pro-Street – I’ve read that they lack a full heat shield and can roast your right leg, according to bassani’s website these pipes are serious high performance pipes. But again that’s from their website so I can’t see why they would post a bad review. Like the look.
D&D fatcat w/performance big bore baffle. I guess these scrap a lot? Kinda like the look.
V&H Long Shots HS. The more I look at these the more their growing on me.
V&H Big Shot.
V&H Side Shot. Something I’ve only seen around here a couple of times.
V&H big radius – PC already has a user submitted map for the 2006 103 screamin eagle fatboy. But the comments from v-twinforums.com seem to say these pipes look good but rob performance.

I emailed D&D and they recommended that for my engine I should go with the performance baffle unless I planned on more internal work to the engine and then I could step into the boarzilla.

I emailed John w/Rolling Thunder initially and described my general riding and asked of the pro-street and fatcat which would be a better fit for me. His response was neither. He said that he wasn’t impressed with the Fatcat’s and much preferred the Bassani Road Rage, which is what he uses on his bagger. The road rage cost $569 plus an additional $250 for the heat shields, once you add in the dyno tune that’s almost $1100 for a shot in the dark guess. Now I don’t know if this should concern me or not, but then he offered to sell me the Bassani pipes as he is an authorized dealer.

So, I’m back to square one on which pipe to get. Can anyone help this dazed and confused exhaust newbie out?

Thanks
Adrian

Crawdaddy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2006, 04:06:16 PM »

aabokla you have a PM.

Street Stalker · « **Reply #2 on:** June 26, 2006, 06:59:01 PM »

Yo Adrian,

I have the Big Radius and really like the look and sound on my CVO Fatboy. I have had numerous people comment how the look and sound fit the bike so well. They do rob you of a little hp. and tq. but not significant. My pipes with thunder city monster baffles and p-commander was running 92 tq. and 92 h.p. I personally rate pipes based on 1. looks. 2. sound. 3. performance. Once you figure how your rank is, it might help you make your decision. Good luck and snap a few pics after they're on.

Scott

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2006, 09:57:22 PM »

I went with Thunderheaders. They are a bit louder than some but have a great Harley rumble and make a good performance choice. A freind went with Rineharts, they are my second choice for a bit less noise but still good performance.

longshot · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2006, 11:59:38 PM »

Give me a couple of weeks and i will post a pic. and a dyno sheet on my choice. I couldn't see putting on a run of the mill exhaust on a custom bike so i went a little crazy but love the way the pipe looks and sounds and i'm told from others that i should pick up another 10 h.p. with pipe and the s.e.r.t., we will see. Any way i got the Martin Bros. Medustas @ 699.00 and 259.00 for the heat shields. 485.00 for the sert and i'm waiting on the 300.00 dyno run. I will know the results in a couple of weeks.

05yella · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2006, 05:10:40 PM »

I went with the big shot staggard. Turn the tips out to side instead of stright back. lets peoplle look more at the bike but sounds great. actually on this 103 these pipes hit a good lick!!!

aabokla · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2006, 05:55:53 PM »

Crawdaddy – Yes, I’m in Tulsa. I'm going to try and slip out a little early wednesday or thursday and visit with Richard from Twistercity and see what he says. I called earlier and he was out, but I spoke with the guy, Shaggy, who runs the front area and he says that from the limited dyno first hand experience he has the Big Radius pipes do add something to the performance equation over stock. He said they are seeing a gain of around 7 in both hp and tq. He did say though that for a serious top contender the fatcat was a good choice.

Scott - Love the look on the bike. Did you feel a performance increase in the seat of the dyno pants over the stock exhaust? It might not be so bad if the pipe doesn’t perform as well as the other pipes out there as long as it definitely performs better than stock.

How much of a difference is really noticeable? Can the average person tell a difference between two exhausts with similar power bands but differing from 2-4/hp/tq between each rpm point? Or is the difference only really noticeable when directly comparing one to the other, right after each other? When I last went shopping for a new TV, the 42inch looked small in the big department store sitting right next to the 52inch and even smaller still compared to the 60 inch. I was actually a little worried that it might be too small for my place, but when I got it home away from the bigger sets it looked just fine and actually balanced the room out nicely. Not saying that I won’t buy a bigger screen sometime in the future, but without that direct side by side comparison I don’t notice what I’m missing from the other bigger sets. Since I’m not racing the bike, is this a fair comparison for exhaust selections?

Longshot – I’m really curious to see how your pipes turn out. Definitely not something you see out there on a daily basis.

Fatboyse2 – How do your pipes sound? I’ve only heard one 2-1 system on a Harley and it was the pro-pipe on an 88. The guy said he loved the performance of the pipe but hated the look, but since when he was driving he couldn’t see the pipe, he had learned to live with it. I found a sound clip of a fatcat but I don’t think I’m getting the full impression of what they sound like.

My top two picks are down to either the Fatcat or the Big Radius. I like the looks of both but I’m leaning heavily towards the curvy BR.

Fatboy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2006, 08:10:43 PM »

Also be sure to check out the Vance & Hines Pro-Pipe HS and the Hooker Trouble Maker's........they'll help the decision even tougher. :-/

RATKING · « **Reply #8 on:** June 27, 2006, 08:10:52 PM »

When it comes to exhausts, everyone has an opinion; here's mine. I went with the Thunderheader. Great performance, clean lines, and I love the sound. Need I say it again, the Thunderheaders make beautiful noises. There are 4 of us with SEFB's. In a roll on, they were all the same stock. My one buddy put on the V&H Big Radius, my other buddy put on SE slip-ons, and I did the Thunderheader. I tuned them all with the same SERT map. In the same roll-on, I smoked the other two bikes. I have since futher finetuned my map and my bike really sings, and need I say, sounds fantastic. My brother waited to see what would happen, but has gone with the Thunderheader.

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reo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 27, 2006, 11:21:50 PM »

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I tuned them all with the same SERT map.

Dont get me wrong I think the thunderheader probably does make more power than the other pipes (although very marginal), however do you think your test is a fair way of comparison using the same map?

The Thunderheader was my second choice but lost in my opinion because of looks and more importantly the sound to Rineharts. I always get compliments on the sound of my bike with the Rineharts.

tunedse2 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2006, 04:47:01 PM »

I've rode with a SEFB with the thunderheader, and I can assure you if you "smoked them" its because you have a bigger pair. I dont really understand the theory of tuning different pipes with
the same map... Can we see the Dyno please...

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:45:07 PM »

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Give me a couple of weeks and i will post a pic. and a dyno sheet on my choice. I couldn't see putting on a run of the mill exhaust on a custom bike so i went a little crazy but love the way the pipe looks and sounds and i'm told from others that i should pick up another 10 h.p. with pipe and the s.e.r.t., we will see. Any way i got the [highlight]Martin[/highlight] [highlight]Bros. Medustas[/highlight] @ 699.00 and 259.00 for the heat shields. 485.00 for the sert and i'm waiting on the 300.00 dyno run. I will know the results in a couple of weeks.

Longshot,

Which ones did you get

Cheers
Aussie

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:45:48 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:46:14 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2006, 05:46:47 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #15 on:** June 28, 2006, 06:17:57 PM »

I have 4 sets of pipes including my stock pipes but are not really counted as they are crap, it is actually just the mufflers that are crap as the bike would not go at all & sounded like a moped, a simple change to SE Slip-ons & wow! what a difference, goes great & sounds like a Harley. 2 would be my V&H big shot staggered sounds great also & seem to perform the same as the slip-ons & 3 my favourite are the Lake Pipes they sound awsome (window rattlers) & once again seem to perform the same as the others. I just need to make them about 8 - 10 inches longer so they at least end at the swingarm pivot bolt . Then I think they will look a lot better.

Cheers
Aussie

Street Stalker · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2006, 06:30:10 PM »

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Did you feel a performance increase in the seat of the dyno pants over the stock exhaust? It might not be so bad if the pipe doesn’t perform as well as the other pipes out there as long as it definitely performs better than stock.

Adrian,

Yes, there is a seat of the pants gain in performance over stock, especially from 3200 rpm and up with these pipes. If you just go with the pipes and not the thunder baffles (which are $80) you will notice a little drop off in low end torque in the 1000-3000 range. If you add the thunder city monster baffles you will gain it back and a little more. The pipes sound awesome at idle and on the throttle, not quite as low a tone as rinehart but they give you a sound similar to what I think is "a drag car". They're hard to beat for a real custom look and can be had for just over $500 with heat shields. Let us know which ones you choose, and don't forget
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longshot · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2006, 10:25:58 PM »

Ausse, I got The ones in the number 2 jpg. Those Lake Pipes look awesome!!!! To each his own but the thunder header needs a little Quality built into the appearance. You have to stay on top of them constantly, They rust at the not so perfect welds and the over all chromming sucks. They do sound good and are good performers.

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2006, 10:49:34 PM »

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Ausse, I got The ones in the number 2 jpg. Those Lake Pipes look awesome!!!! To each his own but the thunder header needs a little Quality built into the appearance. You have to stay on top of them constantly, They rust at the not so perfect welds and the over all chromming sucks. They do sound good and are good performers.

They look pretty sweet too! Hope they don't scrape on the road they look a bit low!

Cheers Aussie

RATKING · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2006, 08:09:24 AM »

Continuing on the Thunderheader saga, there is only 1 canned SE Fat Boy map that comes with the SERT. Using this map as a basis, to start, the bikes were programmed with the same map and we played. We have not dyno tuned anything yet, this was the basis. As mine was the only "tuned" 2 into 1 pipe, I am sure I was at the greatest disadvantage with the canned program, and yet I put out more power. It also means I have more to gain; I am in the process of finetuning the map now. Regardless of what a dyno figure will show, this is a real life seat-of-the-pants dyno session, and the Thunderheader had them beat. Certainly we aren't going to question the 2 into 1 vs 2 into 2 scenario again. For power, the 2 into 1's are simply the better pipe. As I said in the beginning, Harley exhausts are a very personal matter; you can run whatever you want. But if I am going to change my pipes, I want to make it worthwhile; I want a performance edge.

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longshot · « **Reply #20 on:** June 29, 2006, 11:43:50 PM »

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Continuing on the [highlight]Thunderheader saga, there is only 1 canned SE Fat Boy map that comes with the SERT. Using this map as a basis, to start, the bikes were programmed with the same map and we played. We have not dyno tuned anything yet, this was the basis. As mine was the only "tuned" 2 into 1 pipe, I am sure I was at the greatest disadvantage with the canned program, and yet I put out more power. It also means I have more to gain; I am in the process of finetuning the map now. Regardless of what a dyno figure will show, this is a real life seat-of-the-pants dyno session, and the Thunderheader had them beat. Certainly we aren't going to question the 2 into 1 vs 2 into 2 scenario again. For power, the 2 into 1's are simply the better pipe. As I said in the beginning, Harley exhausts are a very personal matter; you can run whatever you want. But if I am going to change my pipes, I want to make it worthwhile; I want a performance edge.[/highlight]

So are you saying that reguardless of what the dyno says, You know better? What's the since of spending the money on the dyno? Sounds to me you're saying if you're happy with the #'s You'll brag and if you're not they dont't mean anything!! Had an old lady a lot like that once .

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aabokla · « **Reply #21 on:** June 30, 2006, 06:52:54 AM »

Well, I ordered the Big Radius pipes, power commander, and thunder monster 2002 baffle yesterday. Both are coming in on July 5th. I can hardly wait. [smiley=banana.gif] I figured that worst case scenario, I’m out some bucks but at least I’ll then know if the Big Radius will suffice it on the power side of things for me. With the 2-1 pipes I’d always be wondering IF the extra ponies were the right enough decision over style. And it’s not like I can’t ever change the pipe out if I want. I was reminded of that reading through Aussie’s collection. By the way Aussie, the lake’s look good.

Street Stalker – I ordered the thunder monster baffle 2002, thanks for the recommendation. Actually I guess I should have ordered two baffles one for each pipe, correct?

Who know’s? I may still end up with a small collection in my garage as well and I think I'm okay with that. I think that no matter what, It’s going to be a fun ride.

Now for project #2, finding a hot chick to ride on the back.

I’ll post some pics once I get the pipes put on and I get my seat back from Corbin.

Thanks
Adrian

Street Stalker · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2006, 08:34:55 PM »

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Street Stalker – I ordered the thunder monster baffle 2002, thanks for the recommendation. Actually I guess I should have ordered two baffles one for each pipe, correct?

No, they come as a pair. Congrats on your decision, I think you'll be happy. Funny, I have a 2-1 rinehart pipe hanging on the wall in my collection. I thought I wanted the performance also, but after I tried it, I just could'nt get into the look or sound, and the performance was not any better than my big radius.

If you need help finding a map to get you by until you find a dyno, let me know, I can steer you to one that will work.

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2006, 09:25:20 PM »

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Fatboyse2 – How do your pipes sound? I’ve only heard one 2-1 system on a Harley and it was the pro-pipe on an 88. The guy said he loved the performance of the pipe but hated the look, but since when he was driving he couldn’t see the pipe, he had learned to live with it. I found a sound clip of a fatcat but I don’t think I’m getting the full impression of what they sound like.

AA, They sound great! and as you can see the performance ain't bad either 8-)

kona76 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:33:08 AM »

I say V&H 2 in 1 Pro Pipes. Sounds deep and performance is well documented. Get a SERT and find a great tuner. You wont be disappointed.

purple haze · « **Reply #25 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:29:03 AM »

i have 06 screamin eagle fat boy and 103cc ,but im running D&D boarzilla they are bad ass! plus s.e.r.t and screamin eagle 8mm plug wires,thats it!! so i had my bike dynoed because it was running lean, i can not e-mail my specs but with what i have im making 100hp and torqe the D&D boarzillas look good too because they are up-swept so you can lean into curves ,they look a lot better than fat-cat , i know they say you need at least 107 cubic inch but they are perfect for me and know engine work just pipes s.e.r.t. and $15.00 plug wires and had it dynoed so any way its your call but i like my 100H.P bike , and knowing no one has changed my cam or throttle body, these pipes are expensive but you pay to play, go to there web site and look at some dyno runs on diffrent bikes, also they are loud but good loud , i have race baffle in mine , so good luck and please dont let someone talk you out of screamin eagle race tuner you get what you pay for!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-)

purple haze · « **Reply #26 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:51:38 AM »

one more thing what else did that guy do to his motor to make 112H.P ,I know mine is stock 103cubic inch, how much more did he spend and do for that extra 12H.P :-? mine is true blue 100H.P with D&D , s.e.r.t , plug wires, so tell the truth and set your ass free!!!!!

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 04, 2006, 12:27:33 PM »

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one more thing what else did that guy do to his motor to make 112H.P ,I know mine is stock 103cubic inch, how much more did he spend and do for that extra 12H.P :-? mine is true blue 100H.P with D&D , s.e.r.t , plug wires, so tell the truth and set your ass free!!!!!

Open your wallet and pull out the gold card...here's all you need to do http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1148413441

purple haze · « **Reply #28 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:35:33 PM »

to me i know my 100H.P is coming from stock c.v.o , with D&D boarzilla , s.e.r.t , and blew my gold card on $15.00 8mm plug wires, i like to haul ass and show out, but im not going to spend $6,000.00 for 14HP, you might pull me some but i will be right with you , also i dont want to screw up my warranty, or blow another part. Its not that i dont have the money , i just want a good running machine, once you start getting inside your motor other problems pop up, but hey you sound like you got the cash to burn, so it doesnt matter when you pop your drive belt with all that power, and im betting you have done the infamous smokey burn out , i spent $30,000.00 on my sled and i want to be competent i can ride from TEXAS to NOVA SCOTIA and back. ahhhh what the hell im jealous you are making 14HP on me. GOOD LUCK!! mine is going stay same, but my color is more rarer, purple silver black and red. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:49:48 PM »

purple haze · « **Reply #30 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:58:15 PM »

sorry but all i have is lap top and no printer , i guess i need to whip out gold card , but all you have is my word. Oh by the way how many leaks do you have now?

purple haze · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2006, 05:19:48 PM »

i do not have a printer, whats wrong you mad because you make your bike into a hand grenade , and now it leaks oil and you voided your warrenty, just reach back and pull that card out, oh yeah you must pay bill allso!!

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:31:44 PM »

Ah, you forgot about the three grand in OCD, yep, even had to chrome the bolts under the seat

NorEaster · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2006, 07:50:01 AM »

I too was going through exhaust selection overload. I knew I wanted to do something as the stock exhaust was just too quiet, and in my opinion did not sound like a Harley. But what I did not want was obnoxiously loud. Looks were the second most important factor, and performance third.

What I ended up going with, for lack of finding anyone that could tell me just how loud the different pipes were compared to each other and stock, was the Screamin Eagle II Pro slip-ons. I had them installed at the dealer along with the Screamin Eagle Race Tuner. The slip-ons sound great and I'm very happy with the amount of loud they have. Now my bike sounds like a Harley.

What I do not know is if the dealer actually dyno tuned my bike or just loaded a default map for the slip-ons and ran a dyno run to show me the values. I only received one dyno print out so have no way of knowing what the hp and tq were to start with. I ended up with 93 hp and 96 tq and a straight line for the air/fuel mixture, which the dealer thought was great.

Do these numbers seem reasonable for slip-ons and a race tuner? What are the stock numbers without any modifications on a 2006 SE Fat Boy? Can I do better if I find someone else to dyno tune my bike?

I would include the dyno printout, but do not have a scanner. Maybe I can just take a picture of it with the misses digital camera. I will try that tonight.

Thanks,
Roger

purple haze · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2006, 08:47:53 AM »

you should have bought the D&D boarzilla 2 into 1 header sounds wicked and i bet you would be getting 100H.P , but buy the scremin eagle plug wires they are $15.00 and i bet you get at least 2H.P out of them, buy them and let me know you feel extra power!!!!! I bet you will or i will pay for them!!!!!!! dont start digging stuff out of your motor its not worth it and you will void your warrenty! But e-mail me back after you get 8mm plug wires you will not belive the differance!! peace out biker brother [smiley=banana.gif]

purple haze · « **Reply #35 on:** July 06, 2006, 08:53:53 AM »

oh by the way see if you can get refund on pipes, the D&D boarzilla are at least $750.00 and thats not install and tax , but your bike will sound bad ass and they look bad ass!!!!!!!! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

purple haze · « **Reply #36 on:** July 06, 2006, 08:58:23 AM »

help me out, what is o.c.d, i cant pull your chain if im in the dark my biker bro!!!! :-?

purple haze · « **Reply #37 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:13:21 AM »

hey 06 fatboy did they dyno your bike or did they just checked to see how much H.P you are making, because here in fort worth they charged me $300.00 for it ,so maybe they did not dial in your bike, but my D&DS sound bad-ass when you go through the gears, and when i decel also, wish i had printer i would send a picture. you dont have that ugly autum haze, they should say silver and stop fronting a brother

purple haze · « **Reply #38 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:21:39 AM »

also i think stock C.V.O. FatBoy gets 85H.P 88torqe but im not sure so if im wrong dont shoot me, just rag on me like my hopped up bud

purple haze · « **Reply #39 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:29:31 AM »

and thats at rear wheel in our sec sheet it says 96 or 94 torqe but i dont think thats rear wheel so maybe someone else could help us out :-/

purple haze · « **Reply #40 on:** July 06, 2006, 09:38:52 AM »

book says 96 pounds of torqe stock , but thats not rear wheel

tunedse2 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 06, 2006, 01:55:10 PM »

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sorry but all i have is lap top and no printer , i guess i need to whip out gold card , but all you have is my word. Oh by the way how many leaks do you have now? [/quote
How about a camera, do you have one of those... We would really like to see the bike with the pipes, and you could take a picture of the dyno sheet for us.

purple haze · « **Reply #42 on:** July 06, 2006, 02:29:46 PM »

well guy i do have a camera and i can take the pictures but how do i get them in computer? im not very pc savey but if you explain i will try to get you dyno, you arent pissed because you bought a bunch of speed parts to make 100hp you did noy clarify what you did unless its stock like mine but just pipes, plug wires and s.e.r.t and i dont know the name of dyno but it was state of art (brand new and loaded) but welcome to 100hp club. the ball is in your court.

purple haze · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2006, 02:47:45 PM »

did you get the recall on vance and hines pipes? they crack at mounting screw, be careful when your getting on it, also that silver bike was made the most of, go to harley trader there is about ten for sell, cheap too. [smiley=banana.gif]

tunedse2 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2006, 04:13:11 PM »

I cant find them on harley trader, can you give us the link please...

purple haze · « **Reply #45 on:** July 06, 2006, 06:45:03 PM »

you know where it is your just yanking my chain!! go to search engine and key in HD TRADER put in year 2006 go to screamin eagle fatboy there are 12 at last count, only 2 concord purple in group about 4 yellow and blue rest are silver. you know they only made 2900 or 3000 but know more being built now, and if you can find i new one, will be hard to do.also i here they are not making scremin eagle fatboy for 07 ,dont know about other bikes let me know if you can tell me, but i like harleys but to me FATBOY is king of the jungle. [smiley=nervous.gif]

longshot · « **Reply #46 on:** July 06, 2006, 11:13:49 PM »

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[highlight]also i think stock C.V.O. FatBoy gets 85H.P 88torqe but im not sure so if im wrong dont shoot me, just rag on me like my hopped up bud[/highlight]

I Tend to beleive an independent party to test and say what the hp and torque are. Consumer cycle news tested the 103 fat boy and got sae corrected rear wheel hp @ 75.7 and torque @84.3, They have nothing to win and nothing to lose so why would they do a bogus test. Other independents have similar values. You have to compare apples to apples. Engine hp and rear wheel hp is quite different,corrected dynos stats and uncorrected are different, and there is pleanty of people out there that can manipulate the dyno test just to make you happy with the numbers. WHO IN THE HECK IS KEEPING SCORE ANYWAY? I got 92 hp and 93 torque with a flat air fuel/air mix and that is sae rear wheel corrected. I get martian bros. pipes with KN filter and SERT. Looks great, sounds great, and runs great. If i wanted a fast bike i would have bought something other than a se fatboy.

tunedse2 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2006, 09:18:23 AM »

Yea, I was on harleytraderonline.com, I found them 3 yellow 2 purple 4 Autumn haze. That Purple haze for 26995.00 brand new is a great deal.

purple haze · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2006, 07:41:28 AM »

hey tuned yor not going to buy 06 purple fat boy (rarest color) for $27k and when you add tax title sert pipes labor you will be over $30 8-)

tunedse2 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 10, 2006, 10:19:54 AM »

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hey tuned yor not going to buy 06 purple fat boy (rarest color) for $27k and when you add tax title sert pipes labor you will be over $30 8-)

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Where did you get your information on the color counts?

PoorUrbanHdBiker · « **Reply #50 on:** July 12, 2006, 04:33:47 AM »

When the rubber hits the road and all things are considered I suggest you find a quality pipe with good fit, chrome, heatshields, and sound that appeals to your ears. The swoopy bling bling pipes will HP fine but have large torque dips in the areas where we ride most, so there are givebacks. In the end on a stock motor there will not be that much difference from any of the pipes mentioned here if WOT hp is the only criteria.
Regarding the short list
V&H makes a quality product with excellent customer support. The performance winner is the propipe. Most are loud but not unruly with baffles. The others from V&H get good points for bling especially the radius pipes but the edge in overall performance goes to the Propipe. The propipe will also support higher hp levels where the short list of "what works and what doesn't" becomes more critical.
The D&D FatCat with the performance baffle is ear shattering but works well. I think I would be inclined to use the standard baffle on a stocker, better torque and little to no WOT hp loss. Much happier ears, trust me this all comes from first hand experience. Rumor is D&D will release a quieter baffle soon

Slick · « **Reply #51 on:** July 21, 2006, 07:39:45 PM »

I ordered the Rinehart Staggered pipes today and having them installed with the Powercommander next week. I'll post some feed back and pictures then.

purple haze · « **Reply #52 on:** July 23, 2006, 10:52:35 AM »

hey street stalker you should have bought upswept boarzilla i can blow you off road im making 15H.P more than you and thats mostley pipe, but yours look good ,just be careful who you call out

2Fatboys · « **Reply #53 on:** August 01, 2006, 07:25:03 PM »

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hey street stalker you should have bought upswept boarzilla i can blow you off road im making 15H.P more than you and thats mostley pipe, but yours look good ,just be careful who you call out

Where you get your Boarzillas at?

Street Stalker · « **Reply #54 on:** August 03, 2006, 02:26:55 PM »

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hey street stalker you should have bought upswept boarzilla i can blow you off road im making 15H.P more than you and thats mostley pipe, but yours look good ,just be careful who you call out

I would love to line them up some time, but we most likely are on other sides of the country (Maine). Calling you out is certainley not out of line, especially the way you brag about a piped 103 on this board. It sounds like you've been reading Latus HD's dyno runs on SE fatboys. You must be new to this game if you think that piped 103 is going to smoke anyone. There is always someone with a bigger wallet than you and willing to prove it.

I think you should spend some time on the twin cam side reading dyno sheets and familarize yourself with some of the boys on here putting out real numbers!

2Fatboys · « **Reply #55 on:** August 03, 2006, 04:36:16 PM »

I'm in Maine.

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