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[moscooter]

 
The following pictures and text are straight from an experienced HD Tech in a position to know the facts...........

"This a way for HD to not admit the 2007 & up primary chain adjuster was not a good idea. for years they tell us to run the primary chain 5/8 to 7/8 cold and 3/8 to 5/8 hot then they give us a adjuster that runs the primary chain banjo string tight.  Then we see inner primary bearings wearing out sooner and comp problems from the chain being to tight. Then they come out with the Screamin' Eagle version so it will be called upgrade not a recall. Bye the way this $150.00 part makes your 2007 & up bike have the same set up as 2006 and earlier bikes."

[timo482]

except i could adjust my 01 without even taking the floor board off - let alone the whole *^&^ floor board bracket. - could adjust without even changing the oil.

baker makes a cover for big bux that has a port. i suppose i could put the case cover on my mill, make a place for a cover and a aluminum billet cover...

however i see that THIS adjuster requires getting in there under the clutch with a allen key.

ill end up making a whole home made billet deal...

*sigh*

one more project that doesnt pay.....

[hdaliaconis]

Spring loaded, adjustable?  What's the story?

[grc]

Spring loaded, adjustable?  What's the story?

Manual adjustment.  The obvious problem of course is the fact that the older bikes had a nice little access cover in the primary cover you could remove to make the simple adjustment without draining the oil or removing the entire outer primary.  This one will require removing the entire outer primary, due to the fact there is no little access cover anymore.  Even if it did have the access cover, the adjustment screw wouldn't be accessible anyway.

It's not terribly surprising that Harley has come out with a part labeled Screamin' Eagle to fix their own mistake.  They did the exact same thing back when the original 2007 compensator design turned out to be a total POS.  They came out with a SE version they would sell to you, but it took them several more years before they finally started installing it in production.  Harley has always preferred to find ways to profit from their mistakes versus admit to them and take care of their customers.  Fine bunch of folks.

Btw, there are alternatives.  If you prefer an automatic adjuster Hayden and SOHB offer either a spring loaded tensioner or a hydraulic tensioner (both have been commented on many times on the site in the past).  If you prefer a manual adjustment, Baker also offers one.  It's not cheap, just like the rest of Baker's stuff, but they sell quality parts.  As we have found over several years, Harley might call something Screamin' Eagle and sell it for a jacked up price but that doesn't mean it's actually any good.  Case in point, the SE version of the compensator, which still sucks.

Jerry

[hdaliaconis]

What a crock!  I have always heard that the auto adjuster made the primary too tight.  Now they have gone back to a manually adjustable one with no access to it!

Thanks for the info Jerry.

[longlast]

So what their saying here is, if you want to convert your touring 110 in to a 100+hp road dragstor, this is the fine tune adjuster you need

Buyer be ware it sounds like a load of double talk something Jason from OCC would come up with. It's a real benefit in  those aggressive racing situations,...

Looks like to me it should be under the high proforments heading not the touring. Unless they praying on,...what they believe to be a lack of intelligence,...well spruce it up that racers use it, and the tourers will be lining up at the door. Just one guys thought

[moscooter]

 

Here is the answer I went with a few yrs ago,  Give it a try.


http://www.sohotbikes.com/wedge.html

[JoeSDE]

Have had good results with the Hayden, recently upgraded, I think.      JoeS

[hdaliaconis]

Looks like a reasonable solution. 

[North Georgia Hawg]

Notice how they went out of their way to describe this new SE tensioner is for "drag racing" applications? That way they can continue to use the POS ratcheting tensioner on all the bikes, and sell you the new one for a buck fifty if you don't like the stock one, with the caveat that it is for racing only, and deny your warranty if anything goes wrong in there while running it. Very sneaky...

Just install the Hayden for a buck, and forget about primary chain tension issues.

[bikerboy53]

Anybody actually try one of these new SE primary chain adjusters? Just had my dealership put one on and when they took it for a test ride they heard a squeak or squeal from the primary when they let off on the throttle... They put the stock one back on, and the noise disappeared! Has anyone else run into this, and is there a way to fix it? (I know Baker, Hayden, etc.)  

[Trapperdog]

They probably forgot to adjust it   

[sadunbar]

Anybody actually try one of these new SE primary chain adjusters? Just had my dealership put one on and when they took it for a test ride they heard a squeak or squeal from the primary when they let off on the throttle... They put the stock one back on, and the noise disappeared! Has anyone else run into this, and is there a way to fix it? (I know Baker, Hayden, etc.)  

If you're a member of Harley Tech Talk forum, there's a thread where others have had similiar experience as you...

http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php/topic,61030.msg652760.html#msg652760

[bikerboy53]

If you're a member of Harley Tech Talk forum, there's a thread where others have had similiar experience as you...

http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php/topic,61030.msg652760.html#msg652760

Thanks Sadunbar! Interesting thread. Sounds like either the Hayden or possibly the Baker unit might be the way to go...

[Steve_G]

I never had a problem with the old EVO manual tensioner.  Too bad they did away with the inspection cover.

[Cvostu]

i had the auto tensioner on my 04 with a Baker primary chain and their DD6..   within 2 years it ruined the chain,.,, now i am back with an old style adjustable one and been nice and quiet since....

[Hilly13]

Gday, I know this thread is getting on but thought I would share my experience with the SE Adjuster, I got one when they became available in Oz.
I found that it was  very noisy! I thought that I could live with it, well the love affair is over, I have tried the fixes discussed on other forums to no avail. Have put my stock one back in for now.
If you have a dedicated drag bike that is just strip ridden then it would be sweet as the racket would not be an issue, but for the road its a no go, way too loud.

Cheers

Hilly

[PosseRider]

Here is the answer I went with a few yrs ago,  Give it a try.


http://www.sohotbikes.com/wedge.html

Looks like the SE one,just doesn't say SE.

[moscooter]

 

Posserider..........The SOHOT tensioner uses hydraulics via the primary oil to activate it.   The SE tensioner is manual.......you lock it down as tight or loose as you desire.  Thus,  they are not the same.

[Ghost__Rider]

If you're a member of Harley Tech Talk forum, there's a thread where others have had similiar experience as you...

http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php/topic,61030.msg652760.html#msg652760

I put one in my 2012 limited and it sounded so bad I never took it off the lift and put the stock tensioner back in. I have one forsale cheap if someone wants it.

[Kathy]

The 'new' SE adjuster has to be manually adjusted and seems to be a step back in time if you ask us. The Hayden automatic primary chain adjuster has been eliminating this problem for almost 25 years. The M6BT07 (for 2007 and newer bikes) will make your bike click into gear instead of clunk. Easier to find neutral. Longer chain life. Less vibration. And much less stress and wear on your bearings, seals and everything else. Take a look at the video on our website. http://haydensm6.com and remember, we"re here to help.

[jwtjt]

the Haden doesn't last Ive wore out two of them the material the use suck

[moscooter]

the Haden doesn't last Ive wore out two of them the material the use suck

Hey Newbie....Many riders have used the Hayden tensioner with very good results.  In fact,  I believe some police depts. use them on their cop bikes.  I'm no paid spokeman for them,  but recognize they have been in business for many years and that wouldn't be the case if most users had the problems you seem to have experienced.

You might want to be more specific as to what year your bike is and how many miles did you get with the Hayden on it before something went wrong and what exactly did go wrong The fact that you "wore out two of them" suggests something besides the (Hayden unit) as being a cause.

[fastfreddy]

 i have gone back to the stock auto tensioner, if you call the folks at hayden they will make it rite, the SE unit is a POS and they wont do $#!p if you want to return it,,, my 2cents 

[Kathy]

Hayden Enterprises can offer you a solution to this problem (and other issues you will have from a 'too tight' primary chain). With over 25 years behind us, we can offer you a tried and true remedy. Our M6BT07 addresses 2007 and newer bikes. The stock adjuster can only recognize a loose spot in your chain and ratchet itself tighter. Too tight of a chain will cause loud whirling, premature wear on your transmission mainshaft and cranksharf bearings and seals. Our chain tensioner floats on springs allowing the chain to move up and down as the bike requires. Your shifting will improve and drivetrain vibration will decrease. You'll even find it easier to find neutral. Your bike will click into gear instead of clunk. Please visit our web site, watch a short video and review our product.

http://haydensm6.com/m6_bt07.htm