Topic: Has anyone used the V&H stagered Short Shots on their Breakout or similar bike (Read 13849 times)

2013CVOBreakout · « **on:** June 13, 2013, 07:42:16 PM »

I really like them and am considering them. Obviously they dont make them for the Breakout but they do make them for the Rocker c and it is almos the same bike.

Layin the Pipe · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2013, 09:03:39 AM »

I thought about using them at one point. Had some on a Fat Boy and they are loud!

Nicky Pass · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2013, 10:14:10 AM »

I know the ones for the Rocker will fit with 18mm to 12mm 02 sensor adapters. I posted a video a while back of a CVO Breakout with Short Shots and it sounded awesome!

se-deuce · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:38:50 PM »

Had em on my 2002 fatboy, real loud and lost some power, replaced with a 2 into 1.

Layin the Pipe · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:57:45 PM »

2-1 gives more power and torque.

KLB0 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2013, 08:56:26 AM »

Got them put on yesterday! Sounds like a Harley and not honda civic. Very Happy with them

KLB0 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2013, 09:18:44 AM »

better pic of pipes

KLB0 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2013, 09:19:15 AM »

closer

49445CVO · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2013, 10:29:55 AM »

Had a buddy that has them on a Fat Boy and dang they were loud. He said after putting some miles on it got to him too. Bar to bar it was ok but any distance, these were not a choice he would make again. He also said that he rode two up and his girl ended up making him to get new pipes. He went with the long shots. They both are very happy now.

My $.02

KLB0 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2013, 11:09:07 AM »

IMO- The sound is still tame coming off the the stock 110B and you get to see more of that turbine wheel. My last softail had a S&S 113 with a custom exhaust, so it's all relative. The girlfriend test will be next week.

KLB0 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2013, 09:29:41 PM »

This is the running post from "canceling orders" posts:

Below is the website and particulars for my new exhaust... When you click on "detailed fitment info" it says NOT for Breakout or CVO Breakout. I had the local dealer do everything and they said it wasn't a problem and didn't know why they have that on the website. So I called Vance and Hines, they were pretty quick to inform me they didn't adjust the 12-13 softail model for the wide tire and cannot guarantee against causing "paint issues" with the wider swing arm. I asked if there was performance issues and he said "no only cosmetic.". The VH tech added the dealer most likely modded the bracket if the install has good clearance. Having zero issues as of now. Will post close ups of install.

http://www.vanceandhines.com/store/softail/fullsystems/17225

FITMENT

Price: $399.95
Fits: 2012-2013 SOFTAIL
VH Product ID : 17225*
Parts/Drag ID: 1800-1414*

*CLICK HERE TO SEE DETAILED FITMENT INFORMATION

89Speedy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2013, 03:46:44 AM »

Quote from: KLB0 on June 23, 2013, 09:19:15 AM

closer

Very nice!! But please remove reflectors!

KLB0 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:40:15 PM »

Reflector removal on the long list of to do's.
top view of rear exhaust bracket

KLB0 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:41:26 PM »

Sideways view of right down tube clearance

KLB0 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 25, 2013, 01:43:21 PM »

Rear view of rear bracket

KLB0 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 27, 2013, 07:58:25 AM »

Got 50 miles of city riding in yesterday and I have a fair amount of backfiring when not in gear-smooth take off and cruise. No previous issues before the the new pipes, running 93 non-ethanol gas-dealer convinced me I didn't need an after market tuner.

I will go to the dealer today and ask about it but would like some input. Help $:-\$

Z06_Pilot · « **Reply #16 on:** June 27, 2013, 10:08:59 AM »

Quote from: KLB0 on June 27, 2013, 07:58:25 AM

Got 50 miles of city riding in yesterday and I have a fair amount of backfiring when not in gear-smooth take off and cruise. No previous issues before the the new pipes, running 93 non-ethanol gas-dealer convinced me I didn't need an after market tuner.

I will go to the dealer today and ask about it but would like some input. Help $:-\$

Oh, you will need a tune dude, no question about it....with a full exhaust install? Very surprised the dealer told you that you would not need one...and you will definitely not realize any throttle response or seat-of-the-pants power improvements with the stock tune either-I know I didn't.

I can tell you that when I got my exhaust installed, I rode it a few miles just to do an installation run to make sure everything was snug and no leaks occurred after getting it hot, etc....I didn't load my Powervision tune until I got home later that day....wow, it was like popcorn popping during my installation ride, with the stock HD tune from the factory....

After about 5 autotune sessions with my Powervision, that bike was transformed. that was about 2000 miles ago, and that tune is still working perfectly.

The only time I get popping(and they are very minor) is when doing throttle blips on downshifts-exactly as it should be

It's a personal choice; after getting an exhaust install some folks get a dyno done and the tune is set accordingly(no doubt the best method to wring every bit of performance the bike has), and other folks get a tuner with an autotune feature.

Good quality exhaust you have there!

Jeff

cherryseeg2 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2013, 11:00:52 AM »

If they told you that you didn't need a tuner, it's probably best you find somewhere to take your bike. They certainly don't have a clue what they're talking about. Anytime you change air flow into or out of the engine it needs to be tuned period.

KLB0 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 27, 2013, 11:49:40 AM »

The dealer did "retune" the stock ECU-his words were "we loaded a new profile." It runs great on throttle- backfires 30 % of off-throttle. I don't notice any power difference.

KLB0 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 27, 2013, 02:23:45 PM »

Well- local HD service said they expected the "decel pop" so they suggested a tuner and a dyno to improve. So I'm gonna take your advice Z06Pilot on the Powervision tuner. Do I need to have a tech put it on initially and get a dyno now? Or can I do it myself, run the autotune and dyno later? Thanks

Z06_Pilot · « **Reply #20 on:** June 27, 2013, 02:59:07 PM »

Quote from: KLB0 on June 27, 2013, 02:23:45 PM

Well- local HD service said they expected the "decel pop" so they suggested a tuner and a dyno to improve. So I'm gonna take your advice Z06Pilot on the Powervision tuner. Do I need to have a tech put it on initially and get a dyno now? Or can I do it myself, run the autotune and dyno later? Thanks

Hey KLB,

That is the tact I am taking. Using Autotune, then if I want to do a dyno later to dial it in perfectly, I will, but I am extremely satisfied with my results with the PV and autotune.

It's kind of understood I think, but Fuel Moto is the place you want to buy your PV, no if's and's, or but's...Jaime there is an expert with this tuner. And the tech support at Dynojet itself is fantastic. They are very responsive and thorough with their responses. They will get you started with a tune that closely matches your bike and exhaust, then autotune to dial it in to your specific riding style.

No tech needed to install it. One end plugs into your ECU connector under the seat, run the cord(I ran mine under the gas tank), and up to your handlebar where you mount a quick release bracket that comes with the PV. After you have run the autotune sessions to the point where no further tuning progress is being made(for me, that was about 6 sessions), you can remove the bracket, since the PV is not required to stay on the bike.

and, don't worry. the first thing the PV does when you connect it to the ECU is make a copy of your HD stock factory tune. So, if for some reason you ever need to go back to it, you simply load it back in...

Several folks here have it, so getting feedback on the forum should not be any issue if you decide to go this route.

good luck!

Jeff

KLB0 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2013, 05:26:45 PM »

Just ordered the PV-2. Jeff was right- they are super helpful and will preload a tune for me to flash. Of note- decel pop has noticeably decreased after 100 more miles- did put 93 Shell ethanol+ gas. More to follow...

KLB0 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2013, 05:41:11 PM »

PV2 arrived yesterday. Before this morning's ride to canyon Lake I flashed the preloaded map that Fuel Moto installed to ECM-huge difference!!! A lot less pop and smoother overall off throttle. Going to auto tune next week. More to follow...

Z06_Pilot · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2013, 06:43:54 PM »

Quote from: KLB0 on July 06, 2013, 05:41:11 PM

PV2 arrived yesterday. Before this morning's ride to canyon Lake I flashed the preloaded map that Fuel Moto installed to ECM-huge difference!!! A lot less pop and smoother overall off throttle. Going to auto tune next week. More to follow...

that's great KLB! BTW, when you are doing the autotune session where it is analyzing your ride, don't be surprised if the bike is riding pretty crappy, or with no noticeable improvement. it's not until after the ride where you save off the analyzed session then re-flash it in to the ECU where you will see the improvements.

Also, something else I learned from Dynojet. As you are riding, i assume you will have the log matrix pulled up and as you ride you will see different squares being highlighted and filled in with percentage numbers(these boxes represent different RPM's at various throttle positions). There is an average percentage of change that is shown, collectively, for all of the values. Once that average change value is 0% AFTER your autotune ride, you will know you have made all the improvements you can with the BASIC autotune feature, or according to Dynojet, your improvements at that point will not be noticeable while riding.

keep us informed

It's a great help to everyone to learn the experiences folks are having with various fuel management systems...

KLB0 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 16, 2013, 09:46:41 PM »

I have had 3 sessions with Autotune going. 2 were around town- which seemed to immediately lessen the decel pop. Then I took a 30 min ride on the hwy and and 15 min in while in cruise at 65 I got a real backfire and cruise canceled-the rest of that ride went without incident. I saved and flashed that tune, had a good hwy ride back but when I got off the hwy- the decel pop was more often. Wondering if there is a recommended profile to autotuning the bike, hwy vs in town riding??

Layin the Pipe · « **Reply #25 on:** July 17, 2013, 08:30:35 PM »

Quote from: KLB0 on July 06, 2013, 05:41:11 PM

PV2 arrived yesterday. Before this morning's ride to canyon Lake I flashed the preloaded map that Fuel Moto installed to ECM-huge difference!!! A lot less pop and smoother overall off throttle. Going to auto tune next week. More to follow...

Off topic, but Canyon Lake all the way up through the Hill Country to Hico/Stephenville area is an awesome ride!

KLB0 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 17, 2013, 10:35:07 PM »

Just moved here a last month and have gone up there twice- I think a part of it is called the devils backbone. I agree, but got to get up there early before the heat does. Thanks!

zink442 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2014, 01:24:12 PM »

I have black ones on mine, I just had to elongate the 4 pipe mounting holes in the bracket a slight bit to make them bolt right up!

KLB0 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2014, 03:41:56 PM »

zink442, the pipes look perfect- any other mods coming?
ken

ChopperPilot · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2014, 09:08:32 PM »

Those pipes look good on a Breakout.

zink442 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 19, 2014, 06:47:11 PM »

Thanks for the comments, No more mods planned, but you never know. I really like everything the way it came and have not seen anything that has turned me on. The only thing I was not impressed with was the pipes and the sound which is fixed now!

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