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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin’ Eagle® Softail® Springer® => Topic started by: blowncobra on April 06, 2007, 10:08:21 AM
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Took bike to dealer for the 500 mile check up and have my bags installed, advised them that both front and rear turnsignals get moisture into them, here is the response, well thats the way it is and we can do noting to fix it, i know my buddy has an 07 night train that does the same thing, anyway dealer says just have to live with it! so my next move is to advise Harley and get there response. Bulbs and water do not play together well as we all know. I have checked and all the seals are in place, i beleive it is a poor design.
Will post pics of bike as soon as i get it back from dealer
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This is common w/the bulb housing on our bikes, and mines does it also. I think it's more on one of the fronts then any of the others. Just make sure you use plenty of dielectric grease on the base of the bulb and you should be fine.
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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This happens on both of my bikes. PIA! I blew out a turn blub on my NEW SEUC2 and thought about complaining to the dealer but.. for $3 I just replaced the bulb.
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This happens on both of my bikes. PIA! I blew out a turn blub on my NEW SEUC2 and thought about complaining to the dealer but.. for $3 I just replaced the bulb.
AJ, I don't know how the handlebar mounted bulbs are set up. Haven't had a reason to look close. On the SEUC, however, don't assume the problem is the lenses. That's not where the water gets in; at least not the worst of it.
The water gets in behind the bulb. Look where the harness goes in the mount arms. Water goes in the same place, runs down the inside of the arms and gets trapped in behind the bulb. There is no "fix" other then to smear/wad/wipe some silicone around that harness entry point and fill the hole as good as can be done. Do that and it'll make a huge difference though. Without it bulb failures will be a common thing.
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To Blown Cobra,
What bags did you have installed on your Springer and if they are Harley bags, do you have a part number? Thanks,
Roger
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On some of the lenses there is a very small indention to help popping the lense cover off
Make sure that its pointing down so water doesn't seep in.....just a thought might not be your issue
jeffj
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To Blown Cobra,
What bags did you have installed on your Springer and if they are Harley bags, do you have a part number? Thanks,
Roger
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Inquiring minds want to know! ;)
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AJ, I don't know how the handlebar mounted bulbs are set up. Haven't had a reason to look close. On the SEUC, however, don't assume the problem is the lenses. That's not where the water gets in; at least not the worst of it.
The water gets in behind the bulb. Look where the harness goes in the mount arms. Water goes in the same place, runs down the inside of the arms and gets trapped in behind the bulb. There is no "fix" other then to smear/wad/wipe some silicone around that harness entry point and fill the hole as good as can be done. Do that and it'll make a huge difference though. Without it bulb failures will be a common thing.
Thanks 2LN. That makes sense. It happens on both of my bikes. The SEUC2 & the '02 Deuce. Wonder why? (That was a rhetorical question.) They are both mounted the same way.
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Well the bags were ordered when the Bike was purchased, i will post the part numbers as soon as i pull up the paper work BUT i went to pick my bike up Friday evening and what a nightmare that turned into! I arrive at the dealer and only 1 saddle bag is mounted, advising me that the right side will not fit unless i change the exhaust, no big deal i have V&H ordered and supposedly the V&H big tube shorties will allow clearance. I will let you know that as soon as they arrive. At the same time this dealer installed the Harley oil pressure gauge kit that mounts to the rocker box, welllllll, 3 miles from the dealer the bike pukes the oil out of it! because the tech routed the oil pressure line up against the front header pipe DUHHHHH!, after calling the dealer from the side of the road and no manager having the nads to talk to me, the receptionist tells me that they will send a tow truck to pick it up and since they close in 1/2 an hour the tow company will store it and then take the bike to the dealer in the morning. NOT! called my son and asked him to bring the bike trailer to pick me up, the rear tire was saturated, can you say slippery! disgusted with this BS way i was treated, i called back before they closed and advised them they would not get this bike back to service and i would allow them a one time inspection of the bike as to verify for themselves what happened, now all of a sudden the assistant service manager is available and says she will come to the roadside and inspect it, so she shows up, my son arrives with the trailer about the same time, i am snapping digital photos of the bike, the roadway etc, she pulls the dipstick and says hmmmm, no oil on dipstick, then starts it up, i am like are you stupid or what!, i immediately shut it down, she says i was just trying to see how bad the damage was, that confirmed this dealer will never touch this bike. So she indicates that the head service manager from this dealers main service department will call me at 8am on Saturday to discuss what to do. So i load up take bike home and spend the next 3 hours cleaning and detailing the bike. Saturday at 9am i still have not heard from the dealer, so i call the assistant manager to advise i have not heard from the main service manager, she advises that well he is off until Monday and she did not want to bother him on Saturday. MORE BS, so at the end of my rope i politely advised her that if i did not here from someone by 10am the whole southeast would here it on the radio ( I do radio talk shows on Fox Sports regional Saturday at 10), well guess what no call, so as promised all got to here about my Harley experience and this dealer, and the calls that came into the show with Harley folks with all kinds of tales of bad service at this dealer. What's that saying don't pee into the wind! well after i went off the air i received a call from Senior dealer management wanting to make this problem go away. Sooo stay tuned as i will update y'all on what happens. This morning i pulled an oil sample from the remaining oil and have sent it to a lab to be tested.( one of my disciplines is forensic mechanics), this will give me a baseline of damage without a teardown.
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Wow, that sucks big time. >:( You have every right to be upset. :sauer005: Since it's not a secret what dealer this is (since you called them out on the radio :singer:) would you mind sharing the dealer name with us so we'll know to avoid them. Also you said you took pictures would you mind sharing those to. Thanks.
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Oh yeah ORLANDO HARLEY DAVIDSON i will post photos i guess in the photo coloumn, of the well lubed springer
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Can't believe the ditz would walk up in front of you and start your bike without asking in almost any circumstance. That it happened when it was known it had just puked out the majority of its oil is nearly unfathomable. What a zoo. Good luck. Enjoy the air time.
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Well lubed springer
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More oil slick pics
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http://www.msnusers.com/CVOHARLEYSPRINGER
I have posted the pics at the site above, be sure to scan all 3 pages to see them all
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Ahh, the power of radio! Keep us posted and good luck! :2vrolijk_21:
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blowncobra, that's a heckuva story there. Sorry about all the trouble over such a simple install as the oil pressure gauge. Your bike looks a lot like mine after one of the oil cooler lines blew off the fitting on me last fall. If it helps, there is some discussion in this thread that I started back then about any possible damage caused by running the bike with no oil pressure: http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=8595.0 FWIW, I've run my bike for about 1,400 miles since then with no problems.
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Just realized one question Cobra. Did they just leave the oil line such that it was close to the pipe then accidentally got against it? Or did they actually purposefully (stupidly) route the thing so close that it had to burn through?
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I'm glad someone addressed this situation......I have an '07 FXDSE and not only does the directional get moist on the inside....but when I wash the bike, the left side direction won't work for a few days after :nixweiss: Why is it that Harley has such a hard time getting it's designs right?? I mean honestly....I bought a brand new bike, and I can't even take a left after washing my ride ??? :soapbox: The MoCo says we " have to live with it" ?? What the hell kind of answer is that ??? I know the problem with mine, is not in the bulb, because the 4way flashers all work fine....so, on my bike, I beleive it's either in the switch, or in the harness somewhere.....I figure I'll let the dealer have a shot at it when it goes in for it's 1,000 mile check-up...if the problem happens after that, I'll find it and take care of it myself.....it's not lkike I've never wrenched a Harley before...HAHAHAHA 8)
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Well the bags were ordered when the Bike was purchased, i will post the part numbers as soon as i pull up the paper work BUT i went to pick my bike up Friday evening and what a nightmare that turned into! I arrive at the dealer and only 1 saddle bag is mounted, advising me that the right side will not fit unless i change the exhaust, no big deal i have V&H ordered and supposedly the V&H big tube shorties will allow clearance. I will let you know that as soon as they arrive. At the same time this dealer installed the Harley oil pressure gauge kit that mounts to the rocker box, welllllll, 3 miles from the dealer the bike pukes the oil out of it! because the tech routed the oil pressure line up against the front header pipe DUHHHHH!, after calling the dealer from the side of the road and no manager having the nads to talk to me, the receptionist tells me that they will send a tow truck to pick it up and since they close in 1/2 an hour the tow company will store it and then take the bike to the dealer in the morning. NOT! called my son and asked him to bring the bike trailer to pick me up, the rear tire was saturated, can you say slippery! disgusted with this BS way i was treated, i called back before they closed and advised them they would not get this bike back to service and i would allow them a one time inspection of the bike as to verify for themselves what happened, now all of a sudden the assistant service manager is available and says she will come to the roadside and inspect it, so she shows up, my son arrives with the trailer about the same time, i am snapping digital photos of the bike, the roadway etc, she pulls the dipstick and says hmmmm, no oil on dipstick, then starts it up, i am like are you stupid or what!, i immediately shut it down, she says i was just trying to see how bad the damage was, that confirmed this dealer will never touch this bike. So she indicates that the head service manager from this dealers main service department will call me at 8am on Saturday to discuss what to do. So i load up take bike home and spend the next 3 hours cleaning and detailing the bike. Saturday at 9am i still have not heard from the dealer, so i call the assistant manager to advise i have not heard from the main service manager, she advises that well he is off until Monday and she did not want to bother him on Saturday. MORE BS, so at the end of my rope i politely advised her that if i did not here from someone by 10am the whole southeast would here it on the radio ( I do radio talk shows on Fox Sports regional Saturday at 10), well guess what no call, so as promised all got to here about my Harley experience and this dealer, and the calls that came into the show with Harley folks with all kinds of tales of bad service at this dealer. What's that saying don't pee into the wind! well after i went off the air i received a call from Senior dealer management wanting to make this problem go away. Sooo stay tuned as i will update y'all on what happens. This morning i pulled an oil sample from the remaining oil and have sent it to a lab to be tested.( one of my disciplines is forensic mechanics), this will give me a baseline of damage without a teardown.
:o Day'em I hate hearing stories like that, especially with the very irresponsible initial dealer response to a problem they created. I hope it all gets resolved soon. Doing the oil analysis is a good idea.
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Well good news i think, The dealer and i have agreed to resolve this issue, instead of doing a teardown inspection, which i oppose, we have agreed the dealer will provide a 5 year Harley extended warranty at no charge to me and wiil reimburse me my expenses for cleaning the bike up and repairing the oil line. I beleive all things considered it is the best deal for all. I have driven it about 130 miles and so far seems ok. I received the extended warranty documents yesterday.
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Well good news i think, The dealer and i have agreed to resolve this issue, instead of doing a teardown inspection, which i oppose, we have agreed the dealer will provide a 5 year Harley extended warranty at no charge to me and wiil reimburse me my expenses for cleaning the bike up and repairing the oil line. I beleive all things considered it is the best deal for all. I have driven it about 130 miles and so far seems ok. I received the extended warranty documents yesterday.
Good news bc! At least you don't have to change your name to blowntwincam! ::) Good luck with the bike! Hoist! 8)
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Well good news i think, The dealer and i have agreed to resolve this issue, instead of doing a teardown inspection, which i oppose, we have agreed the dealer will provide a 5 year Harley extended warranty at no charge to me and wiil reimburse me my expenses for cleaning the bike up and repairing the oil line. I beleive all things considered it is the best deal for all. I have driven it about 130 miles and so far seems ok. I received the extended warranty documents yesterday.
Glad to hear that. :2vrolijk_21:
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Well good news i think, The dealer and i have agreed to resolve this issue, instead of doing a teardown inspection, which i oppose, we have agreed the dealer will provide a 5 year Harley extended warranty at no charge to me and wiil reimburse me my expenses for cleaning the bike up and repairing the oil line. I beleive all things considered it is the best deal for all. I have driven it about 130 miles and so far seems ok. I received the extended warranty documents yesterday.
blowncobra,
Glad to hear this is resolved to your satisfaction. Ride on!!!
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman: