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Springers no more????
« on: April 06, 2007, 10:01:30 AM »

Attended a local HOG meeting last night and was told by the guest a Harley Factory Rep that next year Harley is dropping 8 bikes from the line up, the springer, custom roadking, 883 sportster,softail heritage custom??? and a few others, glad i have my springer! Any one else heard this?
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2007, 10:14:10 AM »

Attended a local HOG meeting last night and was told by the guest a Harley Factory Rep that next year Harley is dropping 8 bikes from the line up, the springer, custom roadking, 883 sportster,softail heritage custom??? and a few others, glad i have my springer! Any one else heard this?

Some thinning down of the very redundant model lines has seemed warranted for awhile now.  So it wouldn't surprise me.  I actually like the Road King Custom but, for example, two variations of a leather bagged Road King really doens't allow for much differentiation between the models.  It always seemed like the SE Springer was perhaps an attempt to boost sales on a waning model too.  Since the stock model's sales haven't changed much the demise of the Springer wouldn't surprise me greatly either.  But, just like the "what's coming next year" speculation; it's all just speculation until the model line ups are actually released.  I'll go out on a limb and say that next year's model will drop the Screamin' Eagle Servicar.
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 05:40:21 PM »

I've heard rumors of the Springer models demise for a few years now.   That was one of the reasons I got my '07 FLSTSC.   
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 09:40:00 PM »

Some thinning down of the very redundant model lines has seemed warranted for awhile now.  So it wouldn't surprise me.  I actually like the Road King Custom but, for example, two variations of a leather bagged Road King really doesn't allow for much differentiation between the models.  It always seemed like the SE Springer was perhaps an attempt to boost sales on a waning model too.  Since the stock model's sales haven't changed much the demise of the Springer wouldn't surprise me greatly either.  But, just like the "what's coming next year" speculation; it's all just speculation until the model line ups are actually released.  I'll go out on a limb and say that next year's model will drop the Screamin' Eagle Servicar.

Yep, we're absolutely thinking that we need to drop these models, it's kind of hush hush but since you HOG guys are family I'll let you know so if any of your buddies really wanted one of these, best get one now.  Mmmmm, they've reduced production, they have model proliferation, maybe they could stir some interest if they floated the rumor they're dropping some models.

Now I'm sure it may happen but why would you tell the world you're dropping a model?  That usually makes it harder to sell.  As hush hush as these guys are about stuff, it just has a stinky odor to me, call me cynical I guess.
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 03:44:28 PM »

I guess that I'd be surprised that the MOCO would be allowing any info out about models and changes.  I've heard from dealers about the secrecy regarding other model changes, releases, etc.  Why would they let a rep start spewing info about '08 models? 
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 03:50:10 PM »


Now I'm sure it may happen but why would you tell the world you're dropping a model?  That usually makes it harder to sell.  As hush hush as these guys are about stuff, it just has a stinky odor to me, call me cynical I guess.


Ditto Rog.  Though for so many it seems too cool to apparently intuit from the runes of HDI what they're thinking or doing and claiming it as sourced.  I'm still going with the SE Servicar as the standard response to all rumors coming from HD on any topic.

Where's the restroom in the new dealership?  It's in the SE Servicar. 

What's good to eat at the deli at the new museum when it's built.  It'll be the SE Servicar. 

What will the ?? model year include?  The SE Servicar.
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 03:52:44 PM »

Ditto Rog.  Though for so many it seems too cool to apparently intuit from the runes of HDI what they're thinking or doing and claiming it as sourced.  I'm still going with the SE Servicar as the standard response to all rumors coming from HD on any topic.

Where's the restroom in the new dealership?  It's in the SE Servicar. 

What's good to eat at the deli at the new museum when it's built.  It'll be the SE Servicar. 

What will the ?? model year include?  The SE Servicar.

I'm convinced........but I lie :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 09:16:41 AM »

Ditto Rog.  Though for so many it seems too cool to apparently intuit from the runes of HDI what they're thinking or doing and claiming it as sourced.  I'm still going with the SE Servicar as the standard response to all rumors coming from HD on any topic.

Where's the restroom in the new dealership?  It's in the SE Servicar. 

What's good to eat at the deli at the new museum when it's built.  It'll be the SE Servicar. 

What will the ?? model year include?  The SE Servicar.

Don you may be correct, the MoCo just released some shots of a 2008 Servicar they intend to launch soon.
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2007, 08:49:05 PM »



I wonder how long it took him to realize the right front tire on the cart it flat. :D

He does get points for innovative use of a scooter.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2007, 02:18:04 AM »

:zwtf: Sadddd but true they are cutting much of their product line.  The Springer is among them.  I am overseas military and the dealers here have released a projection for the 2008 product year from the MoCo.  I think something as unique as the Springer will be brought back as a special edition whether it is a SE/CVO or not in the future.  Many of the customs these days are adding springer front ends, but it is cyclical.  We shall see.  I have always admired the Springer as my favorite HD.  It is the most unique looking bike of all Harleys, IMHO.  There is no metric that quite looks like it without some MAJOR mods.  We may quibble that HDs have a look all to themselves...but the metrics have been copying them since their popularity has risen.   :soapbox:  My guess is that the Springer like the Phoenix will rise again...some day...but until then mine will increase in VALUE...WOOOOOHHHHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smilie_staub: :xyxthumbs:

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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2007, 10:42:59 AM »

Don't want to see'em go! The unique look has to stick around, and for all those who prefer the springer, I doubt they want to have to go "custom" just for the look.  :soapbox:
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2007, 02:30:05 PM »

I don't like to spread rumors - but - I read on another board that the FX Springer is just being moved to the CVO lineup for this year and next. After that, the guy says the Motor Company will likely bring it back into the regular lineup with cosmetic changes.  He mentioned the the old Bad Boy.
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2007, 04:47:02 PM »

Don you may be correct, the MoCo just released some shots of a 2008 Servicar they intend to launch soon.

What is a servicar, do you mean sidecar?
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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007, 06:34:16 PM »

What is a servicar, do you mean sidecar?

Servicar was Harley's "work truck."  A precursor to the trike.  Here's a 1950 model in cop configuration.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2007, 10:58:33 PM »

REPOZ,
I have a hard time believing that they will carry over the SE version of the springer.  Baggers rule the CVO arena, so I could believe that they would hold over one of those.  Many on this site have replied that the only CVOs in dealerships are the Springers.  I do believe that they will bring it back at a later date...just to unique and beautiful of a bike. 

Regarding rumors...I prefer to call it speculation which is half the fun of a blog.  Talking all kinds of crap that only us have cares/feelings about.  Information passing is the best but speculation and a little fun filled smack talking never hurt either. ;) 8) :P :huepfenjump3:

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Re: Springers no more????
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2007, 11:03:40 PM »

well said SEEGAR
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2007, 11:07:30 PM »

Thanx, KoolJ, I will be here all week.   :bananarock: :mango: :cucumber: :jalapeno: :pineapple: :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2007, 10:10:46 PM »

REPOZ,
I have a hard time believing that they will carry over the SE version of the springer.  Baggers rule the CVO arena, so I could believe that they would hold over one of those.  Many on this site have replied that the only CVOs in dealerships are the Springers.  I do believe that they will bring it back at a later date...just to unique and beautiful of a bike. 

Regarding rumors...I prefer to call it speculation which is half the fun of a blog.  Talking all kinds of crap that only us have cares/feelings about.  Information passing is the best but speculation and a little fun filled smack talking never hurt either. ;) 8) :P :huepfenjump3:

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Good point.  What else would we do when we aren't riding, shining or wrenching? :)

Didn't the Deuce and Fatboy CVOs go for multiple years, though?

As far as the Springer is concerned - - > Glad I got mine!!   :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2007, 07:47:08 AM »

I heard the springer's cost was too much considering the sales volume
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2007, 09:40:01 AM »

I heard the springer's cost was too much considering the sales volume

It would appear the FXSTSSE's move faster than the non CVO Springers. 




 
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2007, 02:37:15 PM »

How many more years can Mo Co continue with another SE Road King? Its about time for a change? Like a SE Street Glide, Road Glide and some other model not in the Touring family. Hey this sounds like a great Poll question. Maybe Mo Co would listen.  Wishful thinking on my part!

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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2007, 03:11:17 PM »

How many more years can Mo Co continue with another SE Road King? Its about time for a change? Like a SE Street Glide, Road Glide and some other model not in the Touring family. Hey this sounds like a great Poll question. Maybe Mo Co would listen.  Wishful thinking on my part!

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The second Road King within the now common two year model cycles seemed quite expected. The third SEUC (if it in fact comes out) is the more unexpected surprise.  It seems likely, however, there will always be a touring model of some kind (at least one).  They sell best.

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2007, 09:13:45 PM »

I don't like to spread rumors - but - I read on another board that the FX Springer is just being moved to the CVO lineup for this year and next. After that, the guy says the Motor Company will likely bring it back into the regular lineup with cosmetic changes.  He mentioned the the old Bad Boy.


Okay, so Part I of this rumor is true. 

One of those new Rockertails would look pretty good with a Springer fork.    8)
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2007, 11:46:32 PM »

Repoz your crystal ball may be right on...I can see an all black version of the Rockers with a springer front end...may look kool.  The MoCo always releases an inbetween year bike anyway...look at the Nightster, Nightrod...

Just a thought
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2007, 08:08:45 AM »

Personally I don't care for the Rocker models.  I do like the 2008 FXSTSSE2 even more than the 07 due to the 19" front tire.   :bananarock:
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2007, 07:13:15 PM »

Personally I don't care for the Rocker models.  I do like the 2008 FXSTSSE2 even more than the 07 due to the 19" front tire.   :bananarock:

The '08 springer is the only model of the new CVO's that I like as of now. Mostly disapointed this year.
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