Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[JT_FXDLS]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to do a cam upgrade for my 2016 FXDLS. It has 110" engine, stock, with TBR 2-1 Comp S exhaust. Not looking increase compression nor headwork. The cams that I am advised to look at are:

Wood's TW-222
Wood's TW-7H
Andrew's 57H
Feuling 574

If anybody has experience with either or a dyno chart - would appreciate your help a lot

cheers

[HD Street Performance]

Andrew's 48,  comp tc3102 or pure torque move tc 3101, tts 100

[pudgeyxj]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to do a cam upgrade for my 2016 FXDLS. It has 110" engine, stock, with TBR 2-1 Comp S exhaust. Not looking increase compression nor headwork. The cams that I am advised to look at are:

Wood's TW-222
Wood's TW-7H
Andrew's 57H
Feuling 574

If anybody has experience with either or a dyno chart - would appreciate your help a lot

cheers

I have the TW-7H, and a D&D Fat Cat and a tuner. currently at about 105HP and 117TQ. For what it's worth I'm really happy with it......still want a 124" though

Paul

[georgw221]

Give the Cyclerama 570-2 a look.

[HD Street Performance]

I have the TW-7H, and a D&D Fat Cat and a tuner. currently at about 105HP and 117TQ. For what it's worth I'm really happy with it......still want a 124" though(?

Paul

And that cam was bolted in with no other changes?

[pudgeyxj]

And that cam was bolted in with no other changes?

As far as I know. Sorry, had my local shop do the work. Had Fueling lifters, Zippers tensioners, cams, exhaust, tune and a clutch upgrade done at the same time. I'll try to post my dyno sheet when I get home, not the most technologically advanced person on the planet, lol.

Paul

[Kowboy]

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the info.
I was wondering the same thing (best cam with stock 110).
Did you upgrade the oil pump as well?

Kowboy

[HD Street Performance]

I am struggling to know what you want as far as results from this "best" cam
The listed cams are from different classes. From big torque early to late to come on with a better top end charge.

[JT_FXDLS]

I guess I mean biggest most balanced gains for cam-only upgrade. I know these cams have gains at different RPMs, but I am mostly concerned with biggest and addition to peak hp/tq that lasts most accross rpm range, whether starting at 2.5k or 3.5k. Also without compromising the reliability of the engine

[HD Street Performance]

That would be something in the low 240s for duration like the Tman 590 or Comp tc3103.
You need adjustable pushrods. Use new lifters also.
The cam then is up against a compression and airflow barrier but still there will be a noticeable gain.
Pipe and tune are important to get the potential plus assure longevity.

[pudgeyxj]

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the info.
I was wondering the same thing (best cam with stock 110).
Did you upgrade the oil pump as well?

Kowboy

Haven't done the oil pump yet. It's on the list.....along with many other things, lol

Paul

[HD Street Performance]

Guys replace the pumps but it is not an issue if they are not worn or had debris run in them or the crank has slipped. Money is best spent elsewhere.
It is worthwhile to take the relief valve out and clean plus replace the valve with a Baisley spool. 

[pudgeyxj]

Guys replace the pumps but it is not an issue if they are not worn or had debris run in them or the crank has slipped. Money is best spent elsewhere.
It is worthwhile to take the relief valve out and clean plus replace the valve with a Baisley spool.

Thank You,  good to know.

cheers

Paul

[Dan_Lockwood]

Along with the "best" cam choice for a stock stage one 110", what about noise?  As I've read here that the stock 255 has very aggressive lobes and perpetuates the noise issues with the stock 110" motors.

So of the cams mentioned for the 110", of those cams are some quieter than others?  Any preferred quiet cams with a bump up in performance?

[HD Street Performance]

None of them have the fast ramps like the se255. The woods can be noisy however.

[schok]

I looked at this a few years ago and decided on a Crusher TC-24D. Bike ran so hot from the factory because it was leaned out for emissions. Also read on this site about factory lifter failure and sure enough, when I pulled it apart one lifter ball was pooched. New S&S lifters and adjustable push rods, changed cam and new Torrington cam bearings. I cut the cat. out of the exhaust, changed the breather base and added a Zipper filter and reprogrammed with a TTS Mastertune. I do not have dyno info but bike runs very strong through the whole range and stays cool like it should have from day one.

Good luck with your choice.

[plustiano]

Hey fellow CVO peeps! I know this is 2 yrs old, but I'm hoping there is more  opinions on this. I'm planning for my upgrade.

My bike 2015 FLHSXE w/ Fulsac DX headpipe and 2.25 cores and a TTS master tune is all I got on right now.

[joejoebobo]

Hey fellow CVO peeps! I know this is 2 yrs old, but I'm hoping there is more  opinions on this. I'm planning for my upgrade.

My bike 2015 FLHSXE w/ Fulsac DX headpipe and 2.25 cores and a TTS master tune is all I got on right now.

Felt the need to comment on this as I have the same set up as you (2010 FLHSXE w/ Fullsac DX headpipe and 2.25 cores, stock CVO AC and a TTS master tune). After an about a year of research and speaking w/ many tuners, I’ve decided to go with the set up below. I’m scheduled to get this completed at the end of Jan – I’ll comment back here with my results and how it pulls. My reason for this upgrade is while I’m replacing the lifters (I’m just under 20k) I might as well swap out the cams for a low/mid-range pull and do a stage 3 as well. No reason for me to do a stage 4 on this bike. Hoping for @ 130+TQ and @120HP (this is based on a chart seen on TTS's site) http://www.mastertune.net/products_camshafts.html

Stage 3 big bore cylinder/piston kit (110 to 117ci)
TTS 150 cams
55/58mm TB by HP Inc (Keep stock AC)
S&S lifters

-Joe

[TN]

Felt the need to comment on this as I have the same set up as you (2010 FLHSXE w/ Fullsac DX headpipe and 2.25 cores, stock CVO AC and a TTS master tune). After an about a year of research and speaking w/ many tuners, I’ve decided to go with the set up below. I’m scheduled to get this completed at the end of Jan – I’ll comment back here with my results and how it pulls. My reason for this upgrade is while I’m replacing the lifters (I’m just under 20k) I might as well swap out the cams for a low/mid-range pull and do a stage 3 as well. No reason for me to do a stage 4 on this bike. Hoping for @ 130+TQ and @120HP (this is based on a chart seen on TTS's site) http://www.mastertune.net/products_camshafts.html

Stage 3 big bore cylinder/piston kit (110 to 117ci)
TTS 150 cams
55/58mm TB by HP Inc (Keep stock AC)
S&S lifters

-Joe

I have the same setup except I used the 58mm SE throttle body. 119hp/135tq and all where I ride at, from 2k to 4.5k it runs strong. I very seldom see 5k. I split the cases and started with an S&S crank. I think you’ll like it. Good luck.

[plustiano]

I have the same setup except I used the 58mm SE throttle body. 119hp/135tq and all where I ride at, from 2k to 4.5k it runs strong. I very seldom see 5k. I split the cases and started with an S&S crank. I think you’ll like it. Good luck.

Felt the need to comment on this as I have the same set up as you (2010 FLHSXE w/ Fullsac DX headpipe and 2.25 cores, stock CVO AC and a TTS master tune). After an about a year of research and speaking w/ many tuners, I’ve decided to go with the set up below. I’m scheduled to get this completed at the end of Jan – I’ll comment back here with my results and how it pulls. My reason for this upgrade is while I’m replacing the lifters (I’m just under 20k) I might as well swap out the cams for a low/mid-range pull and do a stage 3 as well. No reason for me to do a stage 4 on this bike. Hoping for @ 130+TQ and @120HP (this is based on a chart seen on TTS's site) http://www.mastertune.net/products_camshafts.html

Stage 3 big bore cylinder/piston kit (110 to 117ci)
TTS 150 cams
55/58mm TB by HP Inc (Keep stock AC)
S&S lifters

-Joe

Thanks for this. I've been also looking into the 117, but wasn't sure as far as price comparisons and best bang for the buck. Where did you get the 117 kits from? So far I've got most of the supporting mods, just need to send out my heads for some work and making a decision if I',m going to send my 110 jugs as well to make it 113 or do new 117 jugs.

Paul

[joejoebobo]

I have the same setup except I used the 58mm SE throttle body. 119hp/135tq and all where I ride at, from 2k to 4.5k it runs strong. I very seldom see 5k. I split the cases and started with an S&S crank. I think you’ll like it. Good luck.

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing... looking forward to it.

[joejoebobo]

Thanks for this. I've been also looking into the 117, but wasn't sure as far as price comparisons and best bang for the buck. Where did you get the 117 kits from? So far I've got most of the supporting mods, just need to send out my heads for some work and making a decision if I',m going to send my 110 jugs as well to make it 113 or do new 117 jugs.

Paul

Hey Paul - I'm having Corey w/ Doc's Performance in Minneola FL do the work. Anything more than a stage 1 is too much for me.

Suburban Harley has a few kits though https://suburbanharley.com/Parts-Catalog-Twin-Cam-Cylinder-Kits

I'm keeping my stock heads...

[joejoebobo]

Install complete:
Stage 3 big bore cylinder/piston kit (110 to 117ci)
TTS 150 cams
55/58mm TB by HP Inc (Kept stock AC)
S&S lifters
*on top of*
Fullsac Header w/ 2.25" baffles

I have to say I'm pretty happy with how it feels. So much more throttle response - don't think I'll ever need any more power than this. Final numbers came out at 132TQ/ 113HP. I was hoping for a little more HP, but that could have been the AC (not using a full 58mm TB with HD's HB). I was advised that what I had was more than enough air anyway. idle sounds the same but maybe a little more volume when accelerating. I've found that I can stay in 5th a little longer... no need to drop to 4th when passing someone. Super stoked with how it turned out.