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[porthole]

I was just barely ok with paying $41k for a brand-new CVO. At $52k, I'd rather buy a really nice used Corvette.

Same here. And it that price range there were multiple cars at this past weekends Mecum auction that fit the bill.

But the markup is more ridiculous than movie theater popcorn.

The markup to MSRP on the 2005 SEEG's was $5,000, and most sold for MSRP.
With the cost of everything I wouldn't be surprised if the markup is still the same.

[Fired00d]

Same here - with my really outdated frame 

They are outdated and almost ready for antique tags... but I'm still not getting a new one.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Mano]

The MoCo has reached a new level of ridiculousness (is that even a word??).......

With the exchange rate and higher taxes north of the U.S. boarder that is well over $80 000 CAN.
And no upgrades.

[blownaway]

$51,999, Grrrr... That is just too much. I could MAYBE justify 44-46K but $51,999 I'm thinking of getting either an 2023 Road Glide Limited Vivid Blk with Chrome or Atlas Silver with Black. That way I can maybe take delivery will a stage one and 12" bars, maybe even LED's with a 7 year ext warranty with wheel/tire coverage. I would be reluctant to do anything to a brand new CVO for the price paid. I think I can get a dealer to sell my new 23 bike with the HD warranty and stage one included in the sale, but we'll see I guess....

[BigLew]

1600 BMW?

BigLew

[HOGMIKE]

How about a 2022 Vette?
 

[FLSTFI Dave]

The MoCo has reached a new level of ridiculousness (is that even a word??).......

No, its 54K you're forgetting the 1200 surcharge and the 899 freight.  Then I bet most dealers will add set-up and doc fees.  Don't forget tax and tags.  So if the dealer doesn't add set up or doc fee, its 57,800

This for a 14 year old frame, out dated suspension technology.  Every touring bike on the market has better suspension, and handling.  Most have more power and much better ride modes.  7K increase from last year.

Corvette was a Complete redesign in 2014.  Was 56K base.  2020 it was a complete redesign and went to mid engine.  Base was under 60K.  You got a whole lot for the 4K price increase over 6 years.

[SDCVO]

I get it's crazy expensive and candidly not my cup of tea anyway with all the chrome but who wants to drive a Corvette anyway. Personally, I would always take an American motorcycle over an American sports car at any price!

[FLSTFI Dave]

I get it's crazy expensive and candidly not my cup of tea anyway with all the chrome but who wants to drive a Corvette anyway. Personally, I would always take an American motorcycle over an American sports car at any price!

My CVO Road glide sees more miles a year than my 18 Corvette has.  My Corvette has 26K miles, the 19 CVO has 61K miles and I ride other bikes too.  Usually put 24K on motorcycles a year.

Point was Chevy gives you a complete new car, no shared parts, with a small price increase.  Harley gives you new paint and parts they have been using since 09 for a 7K price increase.  Corvette redesigned twice while Harley is on same 09 frame

[DCFIREMANN]

Same here. And it that price range there were multiple cars at this past weekends Mecum auction that fit the bill.

The markup to MSRP on the 2005 SEEG's was $5,000, and most sold for MSRP.
With the cost of everything I wouldn't be surprised if the markup is still the same.

Actually the markup was 8K on the CVO's and 5k on the touring line. Back in 04 and 05 the SEEG was almost impossible to come by at MSRP!!!! But a deal was out there if you looked.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Finster101]

My CVO Road glide sees more miles a year than my 18 Corvette has.  My Corvette has 26K miles, the 19 CVO has 61K miles and I ride other bikes too.  Usually put 24K on motorcycles a year.

Point was Chevy gives you a complete new car, no shared parts, with a small price increase.  Harley gives you new paint and parts they have been using since 09 for a 7K price increase.  Corvette redesigned twice while Harley is on same 09 frame

Plus as a bonus, lifters are not nor ever have been considered a maintenance item on a Corvette

[FLSTFI Dave]

Plus as a bonus, lifters are not nor ever have been considered a maintenance item on a Corvette

My Harleys are the only vehicles I have ever owned that lifters are a maintenance item.

[CVODON]

Actually the markup was 8K on the CVO's and 5k on the touring line. Back in 04 and 05 the SEEG was almost impossible to come by at MSRP!!!! But a deal was out there if you looked.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

I ordered my 05 Red SEEG on July 31st sight unseen and recieved it on October 5th. Checked all the local dealers then, we had 4, all were MSRP and I used the one I bought from because they were the only one to offer free first oil change.
None of them asked for set-up or mark-up. I can not believe anyone paid over but $8K is just crazy.

[Cat Eye]

Harley is preparing for a recession.
One CVO model for those that have recession-proof deep pockets.

Inflation is eroding discretionary spending
Rising interest rates
Global Unrest
Pandemic

Harley would rather be undersold than have thousands for unsold motorcycles around the world.

[mrmagloo]

FWIW, it's been a great ride with 3 CVO's, and many others prior over the last 40 years, but between the skyrocketing costs, and the total dealership destruction that Harley subsidized in the Chicago metro area and beyond, I'm done.

I remember the old days of stopping at the local dealer on the way home every week or two, who KNEW YOU BY NAME, I used to enjoy our chats about what's coming, industry news, and just friendly talk.  When Harley pushed all of the owners to the big boxes or took the business away, and helped this Ozzie joker take them all over - who right away took away the HOG benefits, installed used car salesmen who know nothing about bikes, and got rid of the experienced parts guys and techs, it was clear things were going down a dark path. The icing on the cake was when the Harley Advisory Panel became more about asking about how much you make.

Last spring, I bought a new Honda 6sp Goldwing Tour - Best decision I ever made. Although I won't sell the Harley, I gotta say I'm mighty impressed with the GW.  Two other guys in my group jumped ship to GW's too.  When I saw the 2023 Harley unveiling, all I could do was chuckle.  Kind of sad to see, but what do you do?