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[acevtwin]

Well I guess no Country Music Fans here. I get it now. See ya.

Now with the correct context, It is funny.

[bad00serg]

I get both sides...

There does seem to be a lot of negativity on this board, just an opinion, perhaps I am looking at the wrong threads.  Things do change - my GM diesel pickup now costs over $80K when I used to buy them for $40K.  To me it still holds it's value well, so I continue to buy.  If I didn't, I would not see the purpose in complaining about what I used to buy/get and why an Isuzu truck is so great, GM doesn't care and will sell every one they make no problem.

The new bikes are expensive and they are not as "special" as CVOs used to be, again my opinion.  But, I'm not aware of stockpiles of unsold CVOs, so buyers somewhere are taking the plunge and see the value.  I cannot blame HD for increasing prices/margins when the demand appears strong.  Perhaps some here feel "cheated", but things change.  If HD does not need to spend the $ on R&D, custom touches, CBs, etc and people are still buying CVOs at increased prices, so it goes, the law of supply and demand.

Buy what you like - new CVO, old CVO, Jap bike, hey whatever makes you happy, but BE HAPPY!

[iski]

Well I guess no Country Music Fans here. I get it now. See ya.

Saw that quote but was just reading & munching popcorn here for awhile.  There are still some of us around, I like the older stuff better than the new, with a few exceptions.

"Well the view looks better from ahead than it looks behind
I've got a need to speed and I don't mean the drugs-store kind
Some people like a life that barely moves at all
I say more power to them
Then I fly right through 'em
'Til it slows down to a crawl

It's a matter of horsepower
For eight seconds or miles per hour
That's the way I am and that's a fact I can't ignore
Yea, big boy legged, fuel injected
Running wild, radar detected
Man can always stand a little bit more
Horsepower"

[Ironhorse]

The new bikes are expensive and they are not as "special" as CVOs used to be, again my opinion. 

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. And that is a key point for me.  The CVOs were special because they were all made at a separate facility by hand picked teams. And if you searched the bike you can see where each team member signed their name on the bike. Now days they are made on the same assembly line as the rest of the bikes. If you want a CVO today, they pick any one bike out of the line up, change the tins and motor and send it on it's way.  I understand that it makes more sense from a production and cost point to do that, however I do feel that which makes it a CVO is lost.  To me it's no different than Ford cranking out Explorers as SE/SEL/XLT and so forth.

But I could be wrong.

[bad00serg]

No I think you're right.  My 2007 Springer is special, my 2020 Ultra not so much.  I definitely see the difference!

[Cat Eye]

2023 CVO Road Glide is the best, safest, and most reliable Road Glide Harley has ever built! 

BOOM! (as i drop the mic)

[FLSTFI Dave]

2009 is the last year of the separate production line for the CVO.  Last year it was built by two person teams with many years experience.

[TN]

2009 is the last year of the separate production line for the CVO.  Last year it was built by two person teams with many years experience.

Yes they were, my mid to low mile Road Glide that is almost stock and ridden gently still puts a smile on my face. 

I did purchase this new, oct 2008 for a mere 30k

[mike weimer]

Lafayette, la and Baton Rouge, la have sold their 2023 Cvo’s. I was told by salesman in Baton Rouge it was sold north of msrp but not how much north. Made me think of PT Barnum

[FLSTFI Dave]

Well, I saw the 2023 CVO Road Glide Limited yesterday.  Pictures do not do it justice at all.  Bike looks fantastic, there is a huge amount of detail in the paint.  The gold pin striping is gold leaf.  Lots of fine metallic in the paint.  Still not sure its worth the MSRP, has a lot less features than my 15 CVO Road Glide ultra did.  No CB, no XM and so on for almost 20K more.

My understanding dealers have to order them with a customers name attached.

[mjb765]

Well, I saw the 2023 CVO Road Glide Limited yesterday.  Pictures do not do it justice at all.  Bike looks fantastic, there is a huge amount of detail in the paint.  The gold pin striping is gold leaf.  Lots of fine metallic in the paint.  Still not sure its worth the MSRP, has a lot less features than my 15 CVO Road Glide ultra did.  No CB, no XM and so on for almost 20K more.

My understanding dealers have to order them with a customers name attached.

They took the XM module out also??

[acevtwin]

They took the XM module out also??

I believe Harley Davidson thinks (and they are correct) That everyone is doing Android Auto or Apple Carplay
for music such as XM and other apps.
I never got good reception with the HD XM module anyway.

[bigC]

They took the XM module out also??

Took XM module out starting with the 2020 models.

[mjb765]

I believe Harley Davidson thinks (and they are correct) That everyone is doing Android Auto or Apple Carplay
for music such as XM and other apps.
I never got good reception with the HD XM module anyway.

My reception is pretty good....on my old Street Glide I relocated the antenna, but on both my RoadGlides it works well. I use the built in XM often. either that or a USB.

The module was stock on my 2020 RoadGlide Limited--I didn't need to add it.

[CVODON]

I disagree that most people are using their phone for audio/internet in the car or on the bike. New GMC has active Google maps and assistance with voice search and my wifes Genesis has exceptional voice operated sound system/GPS.. I know lots of folks who ride and drive and not one of them takes time to connect a phone to a modern audio system be it GM, BMW or whatever. Also XM is now, or mine is $5.85 month and I just push a button on steering wheel or handlebar and it gives me whatever type music, news or sport that I want.
Can't believe HD dropped the module or that people waste time connecting a phone.