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[kojak]

I disagree that most people are using their phone for audio/internet in the car or on the bike. New GMC has active Google maps and assistance with voice search and my wifes Genesis has exceptional voice operated sound system/GPS.. I know lots of folks who ride and drive and not one of them takes time to connect a phone to a modern audio system be it GM, BMW or whatever. Also XM is now, or mine is $5.85 month and I just push a button on steering wheel or handlebar and it gives me whatever type music, news or sport that I want.
Can't believe HD dropped the module or that people waste time connecting a phone.

I do both. I pay for Xm on my truck and get a free mobile device app access. On the bike, I always connect my phone, if not music then waze for gps. For music, I toggle between iTunes or xm etc.

[Eqcons]

I disagree that most people are using their phone for audio/internet in the car or on the bike. New GMC has active Google maps and assistance with voice search and my wifes Genesis has exceptional voice operated sound system/GPS.. I know lots of folks who ride and drive and not one of them takes time to connect a phone to a modern audio system be it GM, BMW or whatever. Also XM is now, or mine is $5.85 month and I just push a button on steering wheel or handlebar and it gives me whatever type music, news or sport that I want.
Can't believe HD dropped the module or that people waste time connecting a phone.

Well, I connect a phone on my bike, and in my cars, but 1) so it charges and 2) so I can take incoming and occasionally make outgoing calls.  I don't use it for audio. or navigation.  But we shouldn't be surprised at HD removing the XM (though in other parts of the world, we never had it anyway.) Surely it's obvious that removal of it (and other previously stock items) is part of their continuing drive to shave every last penny off the manufacturing cost of the bikes?

[FLSTFI Dave]

I believe Harley Davidson thinks (and they are correct) That everyone is doing Android Auto or Apple Carplay
for music such as XM and other apps.
I never got good reception with the HD XM module anyway.

Only problem with that is much of the best riding has zero cell service.  Mountains of West NC, North GA, and East TN have little to no cell service.  Same when you get out west.  XM worked great on my road glides.

Also to my point, xm unit is 400 dollars or so, same with CB.  They removed them, and charge more.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I disagree that most people are using their phone for audio/internet in the car or on the bike. New GMC has active Google maps and assistance with voice search and my wifes Genesis has exceptional voice operated sound system/GPS.. I know lots of folks who ride and drive and not one of them takes time to connect a phone to a modern audio system be it GM, BMW or whatever. Also XM is now, or mine is $5.85 month and I just push a button on steering wheel or handlebar and it gives me whatever type music, news or sport that I want.
Can't believe HD dropped the module or that people waste time connecting a phone.

Many people need a phone connected for many reasons.  Some for work, need to take certain calls.  Or like  me for health issues.  With my iPhone connected if my blood sugar drops to low, it gives me an alarm on my Infotainment screen on the bike, in the car or Truck.  If the phone is not connected on the bike, I can not hear the alarm.  Yea I can usually hear it in the car or truck. 

[mjb765]

Just to be fair.....car manufacturers are doing the same thing. Used to be all the higher end models came with Nav, now it's 50/50 and I was told so many people are using their phone and don't want to pay for the Nav option. To be fair the Nav update price in the car--or the bike is ridiculous....I used Google maps or Waze on a car with no nav. As long as you download the offline maps to your phone there is no need to worry about cell service. It's the way things are going these days so I started using wireless Android Auto in my truck as well since I know when the Nav subscription runs out I am not paying to renew it.

[jamala00]

I disagree that most people are using their phone for audio/internet in the car or on the bike. New GMC has active Google maps and assistance with voice search and my wifes Genesis has exceptional voice operated sound system/GPS.. I know lots of folks who ride and drive and not one of them takes time to connect a phone to a modern audio system be it GM, BMW or whatever. Also XM is now, or mine is $5.85 month and I just push a button on steering wheel or handlebar and it gives me whatever type music, news or sport that I want.
Can't believe HD dropped the module or that people waste time connecting a phone.

Ya, I would 100% disacree with this statement. I connect my phone in all my vehicles and on my bike when riding. I stream Pandora and when needed use Google Maps along with a few other apps. I actually just ordered a Motorola Wireless Android Auto unit so that I don't even have to worry about plugging it in anymore. It will just connect wirelessly as soon as I start the vehicle or bike. I honeslty don't know why anyone would pay for Map Updates or XM service when all this stuff is free and current with Google Maps and streaming with a music service like Pandora. Both have "Off Line" modes available now a days too so if you loose cell coverage they still work. I personally just feel like people who don't.... don't because they are not comfortable with using the technology.

[mjb765]

Ya, I would 100% disacree with this statement. I connect my phone in all my vehicles and on my bike when riding. I stream Pandora and when needed use Google Maps along with a few other apps. I actually just ordered a Motorola Wireless Android Auto unit so that I don't even have to worry about plugging it in anymore. It will just connect wirelessly as soon as I start the vehicle or bike. I honeslty don't know why anyone would pay for Map Updates or XM service when all this stuff is free and current with Google Maps and streaming with a music service like Pandora. Both have "Off Line" modes available now a days too so if you loose cell coverage they still work. I personally just feel like people who don't.... don't because they are not comfortable with using the technology.

I like the wireless Android auto in my truck..but there is one issue. it uses phone battery life quickly. I added a wireless charger in the console phone holder to help that. There is even a factory option for that, but mine didn't have it.  But the bike is a different story. If I have to plug the phone in to charge, then it will just use Android auto that way.

[Hondo2doc]

I like the wireless Android auto in my truck..but there is one issue. it uses phone battery life quickly. I added a wireless charger in the console phone holder to help that. There is even a factory option for that, but mine didn't have it.  But the bike is a different story. If I have to plug the phone in to charge, then it will just use Android auto that way.

I just recently got the Otto cast wireless set up for android auto for my bike. Now the wireless does work great. But then I have to do something about keeping my phone charged up. And yes for some reason the wireless android auto burns up phone battery at a fast rate. Actually I guess I never knew what demand android auto put on the phone battery cause it was always plugged in a charging.

So bottom line for me is after thoroughly trying the wireless AA connection I'm gonna go back to plugging in my phone. I'll get android auto plus always keep phone charged. It's just easier for me.

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[jamala00]

I like the wireless Android auto in my truck..but there is one issue. it uses phone battery life quickly. I added a wireless charger in the console phone holder to help that. There is even a factory option for that, but mine didn't have it.  But the bike is a different story. If I have to plug the phone in to charge, then it will just use Android auto that way.

That's good to know. I've read that same thing about draining the battery fast with the wireless units. Right now I just plug it in and I'm ok with that, I just wanted to try the wireless AA units. They are cheap enough to give it a try.

That's good to know. I've read that same thing about draining the battery fast with the wireless units. Right now I just plug it in and I'm ok with that, I just wanted to try the wireless AA units. They are cheap enough to give it a try.

[mjb765]

That's good to know. I've read that same thing about draining the battery fast with the wireless units. Right now I just plug it in and I'm ok with that, I just wanted to try the wireless AA units. They are cheap enough to give it a try.

This one worked for me...but I don't use it anymore.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MA1-Wireless-Android-Adapter/dp/B09PQ95GY4

[jamala00]

This one worked for me...but I don't use it anymore.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MA1-Wireless-Android-Adapter/dp/B09PQ95GY4

Ya. that is the one I have ordered.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I love Apple CarPlay, it's maps and so on.  That said it's not a reliable solution for GPS and AM in my opinion.  Lots of the area in the Smoky Mountains where I ride there is no data service or cell service.  I find the same thing when riding the Rocky Mountains.  Also sparkly populated areas of the plains states, if you get away from the interstate there is little to no service.

In town and on the interstate I use CarPlay on my Bike, in my corvette and in my Bronco.  In the Smoky mountains and off the beaten path I use vehicle Nav and XM or the bike my play list.

[Hondo2doc]

I love Apple CarPlay, it's maps and so on.  That said it's not a reliable solution for GPS and AM in my opinion.  Lots of the area in the Smoky Mountains where I ride there is no data service or cell service.  I find the same thing when riding the Rocky Mountains.  Also sparkly populated areas of the plains states, if you get away from the interstate there is little to no service.

In town and on the interstate I use CarPlay on my Bike, in my corvette and in my Bronco.  In the Smoky mountains and off the beaten path I use vehicle Nav and XM or the bike my play list.

^^^^^^
This for me exactly but with Android Auto

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[mjb765]

I love Apple CarPlay, it's maps and so on.  That said it's not a reliable solution for GPS and AM in my opinion.  Lots of the area in the Smoky Mountains where I ride there is no data service or cell service.  I find the same thing when riding the Rocky Mountains.  Also sparkly populated areas of the plains states, if you get away from the interstate there is little to no service.

In town and on the interstate I use CarPlay on my Bike, in my corvette and in my Bronco.  In the Smoky mountains and off the beaten path I use vehicle Nav and XM or the bike my play list.

Does Apple not have an off line option??? I know with Google maps you can download the map area to your phone which it will use if cell service goes out.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Does Apple not have an off line option??? I know with Google maps you can download the map area to your phone which it will use if cell service goes out.

No you can use apple maps directly off line.  There are some work arounds, but its not that easy or worth it.