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S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« on: June 20, 2003, 09:13:28 AM »
I think that either the Race Tuner or the Power Commander would provide my bike with a significant amount of power and torque.  Can you help me decide on which way to go?  Thanks for your input.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2003, 10:37:48 AM »
i called my dealer, and i was informed that a powercomander will void the warenty, they said that the EFI tuner kit was the way to go, as long as you have at least 1000 miles on the bike.

i also found out i have an issue with the chip download that was done. i'm waiting for a call back from the dealer. but it apears that they installed "Screamin' Eagle
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2003, 10:57:51 AM »
Everybody else with EFI ECM upgrades ought have this checked out and post results of their findings.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2003, 03:17:47 PM »
dealer just called me back, they said their computer shows the "Chip" used as being a 1450/1550 stage I but the will put it on the dyno next week and pulg it into the diagnsotic computer anf figure out for sure what it is and if it was the right mapping to use,

will update the saga next week
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2003, 12:03:14 PM »
i checked my plugs today, and the visual test says its running a bit lean, we'll have to see if the scanalyzer agrees with me
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2003, 01:06:05 AM »
I have the Race Tuner.  My bike ran better from the moment it was installed.  It's smoother and doesn't bump the rev limiter at 5800.  I have a set of Reinharts which need to be installed this week (along with a SE air cleaner).  I'll post if there is significant improvement.  Insofar as the Race Tuner -  I'd install it again in a heartbeat.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2003, 03:52:36 PM »
My dealer swears by the Race Tuner kit as far as maximising performance.  I am going to have White Brother's tuneable pipes installed with a K&N air filter plus the kit.  We'll see what the dyno tells us then.  I hope the sound will be satisfactory, but not obnoxious.

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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2003, 08:36:44 AM »
dealer checked the code and told me the "chip" is 32847-02 which i cant seem to find in the HD online catalog, sems the girl i spoke to last week was reading the part number for the air kit which is the same for 88/95/103 applications. so i have the right code according to HD, i also switched to SYN-3 and added an oil pressure gauge the motor is running smoother even in the 95+ temps i was riding in.  MPG was 43 [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2003, 09:40:46 AM »
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dealer checked the code and told me the "chip" is 32847-02 which i cant seem to find in the HD online catalog, sems the girl i spoke to last week was reading the part number for the air kit which is the same for 88/95/103 applications. so i have the right code according to HD, i also switched to SYN-3 and added an oil pressure gauge the motor is running smoother even in the 95+ temps i was riding in.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2003, 04:03:49 AM »
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dealer checked the code and told me the "chip" is 32847-02 which i cant seem to find in the HD online catalog, sems the girl i spoke to last week was reading the part number for the air kit which is the same for 88/95/103 applications. so i have the right code according to HD, i also switched to SYN-3 and added an oil pressure gauge the motor is running smoother even in the 95+ temps i was riding in.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2003, 04:20:15 AM »
Heres the breakdown on both:

Both void the warranty.

Both have excellent features in their own right.

Race Tuner is awesome in that it allows you to change rev limits, map cold idle, and does not ride along with the bike.  It requires turning off the bike to make every change, and does not program the bike while it is running.  

Powercommander is cool because it allows you to change the fuel and spark while the bike is running on the dyno.  This is because it is a second computer.  If the tuning center has the Tuning Link software, you are in business.  With this software, the computer (Dyno Computer not ECM on bike) basically writes the map.  

With both products, if the Dealer/Shop/Tuning Center doesn't have an eddy current brake on the dyno and an emissions analyzer, all they can do is map for 100% roll ons.  What good is that if the body of the map (Your idle, cruise, midrange) are off.  If they are lean the bike will run hot, ping, sneeze.  If they are rich the bike will use fuel, oil (if it's really rich), be sluggish and blubber.   If they are mapping by seat of the pants, GOOD LUCK.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2003, 09:57:51 AM »
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32847-02 is not a part number.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2003, 11:11:50 AM »
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do you happe to know what the calibration number should be?


Looking at your profile you have a 1550 FLHRSEI, correct?
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2003, 08:15:44 AM »
Naitram,

The numbers you want are:

Cartridge Part No. 32846-02A
Calibration ID         32853-02A

This is for 1550 Stage II Big Bore Kit P/N 29775-02.

The 32847-02 part number is for 1550 Stage I.

Who is your dealer?  I am from Massachusetts also.
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Re: S.E. Race Tuner vs. Power Commander
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2003, 08:31:02 AM »
i have been dealing with tibbys in springfield, but i'm gonna talk to another dealer about this. who have you been using?
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