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Title: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Cvostu on July 04, 2020, 03:18:55 PM
A buddy of mine is considering having some work done to his 2012 cvo sg 110.   He is thinking about cams, new push rods and a few other things.  I mentioned lifters and he said that he was told that it's not necessary. The bike has about 30k miles on it. I'm thinking that he should do them.  Am I wrong??  Thanks. Stuart.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: grc on July 04, 2020, 03:44:56 PM
A buddy of mine is considering having some work done to his 2012 cvo sg 110.   He is thinking about cams, new push rods and a few other things.  I mentioned lifters and he said that he was told that it's not necessary. The bike has about 30k miles on it. I'm thinking that he should do them.  Am I wrong??  Thanks. Stuart.

You are definitely NOT WRONG Stu.  He's lucky he got 30k miles without a failure, more than a few people had failures at half that mileage.  Perhaps he doesn't know about the CVO110 lifter roller failures.  Let him know how those failures often trashed the engine, requiring a full teardown and rebuild or a new engine.  I'd also suggest, if he's interested in changing cams, that he look for one with less radical opening and closing ramps compared to the stock cam.  That stock cam is a main contributor IMHO to the lifter roller failures.

JMHO - Jerry
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Cvostu on July 04, 2020, 03:54:11 PM
Hey Jerry. Thanks for confirming this.  I told him he's making a big mistake by not doing them.  Thanks for the quick reply.   Have a great 4th.     Thanks. Stuart.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: ultrafxr on July 04, 2020, 04:50:33 PM
I second this. Having lost four 110 TC motors due to lifter and cam bearing failure. Two each on an ‘07 and a ‘12. Didn’t fully understand what was going on at the time. Change lifters and go to full compliment Torrington style cam bearings.


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Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: J.D. on July 04, 2020, 05:37:42 PM
After 20k it's a ticking time bomb.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: HD Street Performance on July 05, 2020, 12:49:49 PM
We have very high quality lifters in stock made in america, $130 shipped pay by credit card or pay pal.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Cvostu on July 05, 2020, 01:59:56 PM
Who's are they if you don't mind me asking.  Thanks. Stuart
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: HD Street Performance on July 05, 2020, 03:26:34 PM
These lifters are being made for us and are not open source. They have been in use on harleys since year 2000 and are black oxide finished. All that I have checked are within .0002 of size, .842
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Unbalanced on July 06, 2020, 08:34:54 PM
Don is it safe to say they are the 99b lifter being produced?
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: tassles on July 07, 2020, 10:37:57 AM
Don is it safe to say they are the 99b lifter being produced?
  well my  cvo 110  2015 road glide just coming up to 50000  so getting bearings and  lifter done  now  so will see what they like 
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: hd-dude on July 13, 2020, 04:07:55 PM
Show your buddy this picture, Just came out of a 2010 CVO Street glide. All four lifters have hard surface failure, cams are wasted as well. Metal debris through engine. Scoring in oil pump and pinion of crankshaft. This is a full motor rebuild.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Cvostu on July 13, 2020, 05:56:03 PM
Thanks Jim.  He had some work done last week. He did change out the lifters.  His request.  He picked up the bike earlier today.  Said all was well so far. I'll send this along. Thanks. Stuart.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: Aussie on July 14, 2020, 04:35:27 AM
Show your buddy this picture, Just came out of a 2010 CVO Street glide. All four lifters have hard surface failure, cams are wasted as well. Metal debris through engine. Scoring in oil pump and pinion of crankshaft. This is a full motor rebuild.

That looks nasty.
Stock lifters?
How many miles has engine done?
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: hd-dude on July 14, 2020, 09:42:07 AM
That looks nasty.
Stock lifters?
How many miles has engine done?

Yes stock lifters, bike has 60k ish on the clock.
Title: Re: Lifers in 2012 110
Post by: johnmowcop on July 20, 2020, 05:40:00 PM
You are definitely NOT WRONG Stu.  He's lucky he got 30k miles without a failure, more than a few people had failures at half that mileage.  Perhaps he doesn't know about the CVO110 lifter roller failures.  Let him know how those failures often trashed the engine, requiring a full teardown and rebuild or a new engine.  I'd also suggest, if he's interested in changing cams, that he look for one with less radical opening and closing ramps compared to the stock cam.  That stock cam is a main contributor IMHO to the lifter roller failures.

JMHO - Jerry
Hello Jerry,
That’s a good opinion you have there, what cams would you suggest that have a less severe ramp.
JohnT