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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2008, 09:01:37 PM »

You have air up front too, right??  Don't the 2000's have air front and rear?

Right.  Front and rear.  Front has the same amount of bounce under breaking conditions as always had though.  So don't think it suddenly went flat up there either. 
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 09:02:28 PM »


Remember you have air on the other end also.

And don't take that wrong.

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gawdammit....  I was on the freaking phone  :huepfenlol2:


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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »

Right.  Front and rear.  Front has the same amount of bounce under breaking conditions as always had though.  So don't think it suddenly went flat up there either. 

Can one front fork loose air and the other not?
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 09:03:25 PM »

Can one front fork loose air and the other not?


Yes, they can come loose.  But it would depressurize both sides.
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2008, 09:11:12 PM »



Yes, they can come loose.  But it would depressurize both sides.


I suggest some really good shocks.
Something like some Progressive 440's
I know someone who has some.

All that time spent on  the other bike, the SERG needs attention.
Did it get your attention today.
My SERG got a text message from yours, something about being neglected.
Made me put some wax on mine just to let it know I still cared!
A happy SERG is a good running SERG!


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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2008, 09:18:32 PM »

What are some other clues?   Was it during acceleration, decceleration, straight line, cornering....some of the above, all of the above?
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2008, 09:18:32 PM »


I suggest some really good shocks.
Something like some Progressive 440's
I know someone who has some.

All that time spent on  the other bike, the SERG needs attention.
Did it get your attention today.
My SERG got a text message from yours, something about being neglected.
Made me put some wax on mine just to let it know I still cared!
A happy SERG is a good running SERG!


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Oh, great.  When it should've been going happily and lazily down the road it was trying to throw me like a mechanical wave machine because it was distracted by text messages from your bike.  Technology is nice.  But this is just too far.

Ok, screw it.  Just hung up the phone.  Going to go check some air lines, eyeball more things easy to see and change some shocks.  Then a little test ride to see if there's any great difference. 

Be back after bit.
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2008, 09:20:27 PM »

What are some other clues?   Was it during acceleration, decceleration, straight line, cornering....some of the above, all of the above?

Any or all of the above.  Less pronounced during decel though.  But would definitely do it under steady power or during acceleration (tried running through it a couple of times).  Would start suddenly on flat and straight or in the middle of a turn (that was fun).
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2008, 10:23:31 PM »

May have found it.  Or at least the worst of it.  Going to go try it out and see how much gain was made.

Back after bit.  If not back before morning am simply having too much fun.
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2008, 10:25:26 PM »

May have found it.  Or at least the worst of it.  Going to go try it out and see how much gain was made.

Back after bit.  If not back before morning am simply having too much fun.

says the optimist...  take your cell phone with you...  late night research and development of a handling problem??  hmmm...
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2008, 10:26:18 PM »

The Red Bike has put some serious JuJu on the SERG...what's going on out in your garage at night that you don't know about?  

This sounds like a swingarm problem.

Ken can doubt me, but I rode his bike at 110+, and I KNOW it's all in the front end.  Like they say, once you've had Traxxion, you can never go back (perhaps I misquoted that, but it's a generality).
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2008, 10:26:49 PM »

May have found it.  Or at least the worst of it.  Going to go try it out and see how much gain was made.

Back after bit.  If not back before morning am simply having too much fun.
No pictures, not even a description of what you found. Damn. :'(

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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2008, 11:32:33 PM »

No pictures, not even a description of what you found. Damn. :'(

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Didn't have time.  Had to find out if what I'd found was all there was.  And it was.  Or at least the worst of.  Handles fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine again.  I'm a happy camper.
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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2008, 11:46:17 PM »

May have found it.  Or at least the worst of it.  Going to go try it out and see how much gain was made.

Back after bit.  If not back before morning am simply having too much fun.


Didn't have time.  Had to find out if what I'd found was all there was.  And it was.  Or at least the worst of.  Handles fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine again.  I'm a happy camper.

Uh, what was it? :nixweiss: :confused5:

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Re: Dancing Road Glide
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2008, 11:51:31 PM »

I would check the swing arm. Some of the pre '02s were prone to cracking. It's a combination of factors, starting with the hollow design which allows for some "crushage" if over tightened. Also the design placed the shock mount behind the axel. This makes the axel act like the fulcrum on a teeter-toter, with the rear weight of the bike pressing down on the back of the swing arm via the shocks on one end, and the forward weight of the bike pressing down on front of the swing arm with the axel in the middle. (I hope this explanation is not too confusing). Harley did away with this when they went to the "cam" style adjuster and a solid piece axel mounting area on the later swing arms.

Don't just look for the cracks, feel for them. Clean the whole axle area of the swing arm (both sides), then run your finger all around the area feeling for cracks. They mostly appear on the top of the swing arm, in the areas infront of the axle. Here is a link to a cracked swing arm.

http://groups.msn.com/HarleyTechTalk/evo1340.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1308908&LastModified=4675665176292934621

Some times the crack is not as pronounced and visible as that one, so check real good.

Here's another good link with all sorts of explanations.

http://www.motorcyclemetal.com/gpage3.html


Hope you find the problem. A dancing rear is not a good thing unless its on a pretty girl.
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