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[Thundering6]

How about making this one simple.....

STOP the practice of allowing just any flunkie to assemble the CVO bikes and get them back to their own assembly line,with the special care it gave them and return the CVO line to the respect they once had.

I live here in York,a stones throw away from the plant,and its a shame they are using Temp Workers(not even true plant employees) to assemble the CVO bikes in the normal assembly line here.Those same bike the MoCo wants us to shell a premium price out for when they reach the dealers floor.IMO the MoCo has ruined the CVO line with what they have done to it.

 

[skippy]

Temp workers ,thats hard to handle  you would think the unions would be all over that....

[Aussie]

WHAT? 
Temp workers,
Have they been trained?
Do they know what to look for incase something is not right when assembling?
Do they have the Passion or are they just there to collect there pay?
Makes one wonder why hey!
Cost savings would be the answer but not the solution to a premium product.

Lets hope they don't shoot them selves in the foot and ruin our CVO range.

[stratplexi]

I have a hard time believing it's temp employees assembling the CVO bikes. How in the world would someone positively know they are temps unless you work there. How have they ruined the CVO line? They are selling well and by all accounts the buyers love them. It would seem to me they are more popular than ever and this webiste would provide some evidence of that.

IMHO, if anything, Harley needs to do more premium bikes. If you compare apples to apples with the market, Harley's are priced very competitive. With the CVO line they are reaching a new market sector with new demographics. The Ultra Limited is also another example of that. I believe they need more high end choices. For example, why not offer the Ultra Limited with a 110 motor option and maybe some more goodies. But limit the number of bikes to say 5000 with these options but price them lower than the CVO Ultra but more than the normal Limited. Car companies do this all the time. I could easily see this approach in each family; softail, dyna, touring, etc.

To answer the original question, I believe they should offer a CVO version as an option on most models but limit the number built. Each year would see changes but they should be offered every year. And as I state above, there should be some other high-end options beyond the normal recreational models but occupy the price point below the CVO option. JMHO

[YELLOWBIRD]

How about making this one simple.....

STOP the practice of allowing just any flunkie to assemble the CVO bikes and get them back to their own assembly line,with the special care it gave them and return the CVO line to the respect they once had.

I live here in York,a stones throw away from the plant,and its a shame they are using Temp Workers(not even true plant employees) to assemble the CVO bikes in the normal assembly line here.Those same bike the MoCo wants us to shell a premium price out for when they reach the dealers floor.IMO the MoCo has ruined the CVO line with what they have done to it.

 

If I stand correct, The 2009 CVO's were the last year for the 3 or 4 man "Trained, Union workers" to actually build the Screaming Eagles scoots. It's said that the MoCo, does some cost cutting in all the wrong places! I think in stead of cheaping the product, they should cheaping the PAYROLL of the Managment!!!!!!


YB

[tennisman]

I wouldn't get too excited about not using the small crew to assemble CVO bikes.  My 08 was built by the small crew and the derby cover screws were so overtightened/over-Loktited that they BROKE the first time they were removed and had to be "easyouted".  There were other items which MAY have been assembly issues...but maybe not, so I won't list 'em.

[tennisman]

Lemme add one more!

- a driver seatback that can be removed and installed EASILY!!  Just copy Mustang seats, they're a breeze to remove and install.

[mark]

I agree on the "team assembly" process being a positive.  It's just one more thing that made CVOs a little special.  I'd also like to see more color matched frames, rather than black.  my 03 SERK had the gold paint and matching frame.  Again, a little something that made it stand out from other Harleys.

I always thought the MoCo was trying to same a few $ on my 2010 SESG....using a black frame, just like every other Harley and using a gloss black inner faring.  Thought the bike would have looked better with a color matched inner fairing, but that would have cost them a little more.

Can't understand why they can chrome-out the handlebars and controls....but still use non-chrome screws??  Same on the derby cover.

I'd like to see the MoCo resort back to the early 2000s and pick two models for CVOs.  Use them for two years, and then move on to another model.  I'm afraid if they're offering too many models, the CVO will lose its uniqueness.     

[Grizzly]

I agree on the "team assembly" process being a positive.  It's just one more thing that made CVOs a little special.  I'd also like to see more color matched frames, rather than black.  my 03 SERK had the gold paint and matching frame.  Again, a little something that made it stand out from other Harleys.

I always thought the MoCo was trying to same a few $ on my 2010 SESG....using a black frame, just like every other Harley and using a gloss black inner faring.  Thought the bike would have looked better with a color matched inner fairing, but that would have cost them a little more.

Can't understand why they can chrome-out the handlebars and controls....but still use non-chrome screws??  Same on the derby cover.

I'd like to see the MoCo resort back to the early 2000s and pick two models for CVOs.  Use them for two years, and then move on to another model.  I'm afraid if they're offering too many models, the CVO will lose its uniqueness.    

Some like I think it has already happened.
Way too many years of the SEUC and no doubt they will continue for a few years with the SESG, which I think is a mistake.

Mix it up a little, and if they did the demand may come back and dealers wouldn't be sitting on year old CVO's!

Have you thought about painting your inner fairing the colour you want... That would make it really unique and shouldn't cost a lot.
I never liked my lowers on my '08 Crystal Copper & Black Onyx that came painted in copper... Always thought they messed up and they should have been black.  So I had them painted and love my bike that much more now.

[mark]

Nice bike... 

Painting my inner fairing crossed my mind...but after spending $30k+, $1k on exhaust, and other odds and ends, felt I'd spent enough.   

I toured York about a year ago and was really disappointed to learn CVOs were being made on the assembly line.  Tour guide also said HD was going to start farming out some manufacturing to foreign vendors.