Topic: 2007 RECALL: (Read 5653 times)

WVULTRA · « **on:** November 23, 2006, 03:58:23 PM »

Not sure if this applies to the CVO bikes, but doing a VIN Service Check at the H-D site yielded this for me today:

[highlight]2007 ELECTRA GLIDE ULTRA CLASSIC SHRINE (EFI) - FLHTCU
VIN: 1HD1FL4127Yxxxxxx

Approximate Mileage: 2350

Fired00d · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2006, 06:07:48 PM »

WVULTRA,
Thanks for the info, others that want to see if they are affected check here - Service Check Up.

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WVULTRA · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:17:59 PM »

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WVULTRA,
Thanks for the info, others that want to see if they are affected check here - Service Check Up.

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Fired00d
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Hey d00d glad to post......might help someone!

Now I'm on pins and needles till the Dealer opens tomorrow am, and I can ask some relevant questions!

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Woop De Doo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:12:45 AM »

Thanks for the info guys. I ran my VIN thru the site and my bike is affected by the recall. I picked up my CUSE on 9/11/06 and have 2350 miles on it. Need to run up to the shop and check it out.
Thanks again for the info.

Don S

JDOFLHRIDER · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:43:13 AM »

I CHECKED WITH THE HD DEALER BECAUSE MY VIN WAS ONE OF THEM TO BE FIXED AND HE SAID THE SERT WOULD HAVE FIXED THAT AND BEING THAT I HAVE 8,900 MIES WITH NO TROUBLE , I WAS GOOD TO GO.IF NOT HE WOULD CALL. GOOD LUCK

WVULTRA · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:58:16 AM »

Talked to Dealer this am, and they were unaware of the Campaign.

Woop De Doo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:45:23 PM »

The Bulletin is dated November 20, 2006. It addresses refining the ECM calibration to smooth the torque curve application in a manner that minimizes high shock loads to drive train components. It also improves fuel economy on some models. We shall see. I am scheduled in on Wednesday morning.

Don S

WVULTRA · « **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2006, 05:03:11 PM »

For those that need the Bulletin:

e4seter · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2006, 07:45:54 PM »

My 2007 SERK needs it per the Harley. I called my dealer and they know nothing about it. Thanks for the bulletin. Since I can get most anything out of my dealer, what do you experst think is a better map.

The only mods I have is V&H slip big shot slip on exhaust, it came with the SE air kit.

I.E. Touring 1800 Stage 1 EITMS 34425-07B/DT

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Touring 1800 Stage 1 34432-07C/DT

What is EITMS?

TIA

WVULTRA · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2006, 07:55:16 PM »

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My 2007 SERK needs it per the Harley.

e4seter · « **Reply #10 on:** November 24, 2006, 08:07:33 PM »

e4:

Definitely not an expert here, but I don't think you'd want the Engine Idle Temperature Management System download unless you've already had it activated by the Dealer.

Thanks for the EITMS clarifacation. But is there any downside to this? Will it hurt to have it cooling and performance?

syclone · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:52:53 AM »

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The Bulletin is dated November 20, 2006. It addresses refining the ECM calibration to smooth the torque curve application in a manner that minimizes high shock loads to drive train components. It also improves fuel economy on some models. We shall see. I am scheduled in on Wednesday morning.

Don S

It's nice that they call it a "torque curve" campaign. Since IF they called it a.... "re-flash that we finally got the EPA to approve ,so we can avoid the potential of more burned rear pistons " ....It might not be received as well.
Those "high shock loads" as in detonation ...as in hitting the top of the piston with a hammer...might lead to some dissatisfied customers...and possibly some bad press and increased warranty expense. Just sayin.........

e4seter · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2006, 05:52:34 PM »

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e4:

Definitely not an expert here, but I don't think you'd want the Engine Idle Temperature Management System download unless you've already had it activated by the Dealer.

EITMS Bulletin attached.

Hope this helps!

Thank you so much, The pdf, as well as my dealer, states that the new ECM flash is not available for the CVO's until mid to late december. My bike runs great with the PCIII usb now, so I am not too worried about it. Thanks again for posting the pdf

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skreminegul07 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 27, 2006, 02:33:12 PM »

I certainly hope that refining the torque curve and improving fuel economy is not a nice way of having the bike neutered.

Woop De Doo · « **Reply #14 on:** November 29, 2006, 09:05:18 AM »

Had my Jester scheduled in this AM for the "Torque Curve Calibration". They ran my vin and said yep it needs it. Took it back into the shop and couldn't do it. The software for the CVO bikes has not been released yet. SM doesn't have a clue as to when it will be released.

Don S

e4seter · « **Reply #15 on:** November 29, 2006, 10:18:48 AM »

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Had my Jester scheduled in this AM for the "Torque Curve Calibration". They ran my vin and said yep it needs it. Took it back into the shop and couldn't do it. The software for the CVO bikes has not been released yet. SM doesn't have a clue as to when it will be released.

Woop De Doo · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2006, 02:04:27 PM »

Thanks e4seter for the info. Hope to have my Rinehards, SERT and new A/C on by then and won't need the update.

Don S

skreminegul07 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 01, 2006, 05:15:32 PM »

Ditto on that update. Had the bike at the dealer today and asked about the update. Same answer, no S/W available. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Fired00d · « **Reply #18 on:** December 01, 2006, 05:21:46 PM »

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Ditto on that update. Had the bike at the dealer today and asked about the update. Same answer, no S/W available. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Can anybody say, "Putting the cart before the horse". Hopefully this will not be a safety issue because if it is seems like they (MoCo) just set themselves up for some big time lawsuits.

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WVULTRA · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2006, 05:32:27 PM »

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Can anybody say, "Putting the cart before the horse".
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Sure is strange the notice states:

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We strongly urge you to take your motorcycle to your dealer to have the appropriate service performed as soon as possible. Should you choose to ride your motorcycle prior to this service, we urge you to be aware of this condition.

And then the Bulletin states:

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*** Use DT software version 20.xx or greater. Version 20.xx, targeted for release mid to late December 2006, will provide

ima29 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 02, 2006, 12:32:35 AM »

My 07 Jester was also hit by recall. Dealer came and trailered bike back to shop then called and informed of no software. I told them to keep it till it is resolved, hell, can't ride smurfette anyway due to broken collar bone. They offered to keep it polished and put on accumulated parts purchased for free as salt air and humidity is death to chrome here. So far these guys are treating me right [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
Kelly

GasRat · « **Reply #21 on:** December 02, 2006, 01:20:35 AM »

Just picked mine up from the dealer this afternoon. I had them put the stage 1 air cleaner on it since they had it in to replace the saddlebag lid that had a run in it & they did the new download for it while it was there. What flash it was I have no idea, whether it was the one for the new air cleaner or the reacall flash I'm not sure but they didn't charge me for it which is cool because I would have had to pay for the air cleaner download otherwise. One of the techs told me that they were basicly the same download, but I find that hard to believe. All I know is it seems to be a little snappier at low speeds than it was and runs great so far. But only a little more time will tell.

WVULTRA · « **Reply #22 on:** December 03, 2006, 07:38:31 PM »

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Had my Jester scheduled in this AM for the "Torque Curve Calibration". They ran my vin and said yep it needs it. Took it back into the shop and couldn't do it. The software for the CVO bikes has not been released yet. SM doesn't have a clue as to when it will be released.

Don S

Some additional info:

Service Bulletin M-1186 Information
1. Please read the entire bulletin.
2. Table #1 is the OEM calibration

Cerdo · « **Reply #23 on:** December 03, 2006, 10:49:47 PM »

Thanks for the info, dealer said to drop it off anytime the weather permits. Will keep you posted.

Woop De Doo · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2006, 07:35:25 PM »

Received my notice in the mail today. Again suggesting that I get it done at my earliest convienance. I will talk to the sm at the dealer in the morn. Earlier he had told me that he had another release but he couldn't use it until the 6th of Dec.

Don S

doubledeuce3 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 06, 2006, 05:25:02 PM »

does this apply just to the 2007 models , or do the 2006 models have this problem too?

WVULTRA · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2006, 05:30:31 PM »

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does this apply just to the 2007 models , or do the 2006 models have this problem too?

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Think this particular campaign is for '07s only.

HawgDoc · « **Reply #27 on:** December 08, 2006, 08:45:49 PM »

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Not sure if this applies to the CVO bikes, but doing a VIN Service Check at the H-D site yielded this for me today:

ATTENTION:

There are one or more open safety recalls [size=16]or[/size][/b] product improvement campaigns on your vehicle. The following list contains the [size=14]campaign[/size] number and a brief description:

0903: TORQUE SMOOTHING CALIBRATION

Just wondering if you know the difference between a recall and a product campaign... because the thread title is '2007 recall'...

HawgDoc · « **Reply #28 on:** December 08, 2006, 08:54:37 PM »

The smooth torque performance calibrations were released a few days early... all dealers should have them available within a few days. [smiley=orange.gif]

WVULTRA · « **Reply #29 on:** December 08, 2006, 09:19:44 PM »

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Not sure if this applies to the CVO bikes, but doing a VIN Service Check at the H-D site yielded this for me today:

ATTENTION:

There are one or more open safety recalls [size=16]or[/size][/b] product improvement campaigns on your vehicle. The following list contains the [size=14]campaign[/size] number and a brief description:

0903:

HawgDoc · « **Reply #30 on:** December 08, 2006, 09:25:10 PM »

ok... understood.

but it's kinda like yelling [size=18]FIRE !!!!!![/size][/b]

... when it's just a cigarette smolderin' in the corner. [smiley=oops.gif]

UglyJohn · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2006, 02:20:46 PM »

Word of caution here.... Shop did a Dyno before the flash and then Dyno after the flash. Word is that the Torque and HP went slightly south! Just something I've been told by I believe a very good source. At least has been a very good source in the past.

Robmay · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:13:35 PM »

Got my recall today. I will check with the dealer while my bike awaits its body parts. Should I need this since I have the Bassanis, AC, SERT and VH Ovals?

WVULTRA · « **Reply #33 on:** December 11, 2006, 05:53:54 PM »

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Got my recall today. I will check with the dealer while my bike awaits its body parts. Should I need this since I have the Bassanis, AC, SERT and VH Ovals?

Rob:

MirageGWK · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2006, 03:27:33 PM »

I am taking a wait and see approach to this recall. Is H-D taking away some of the low end torque? I want to wait and hear the results from other CVO owners. [smiley=soapbox.gif]

Hoist! · « **Reply #35 on:** December 15, 2006, 03:41:07 PM »

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I am taking a wait and see approach to this recall. Is H-D taking away some of the low end torque? I want to wait and hear the results from other CVO owners. [smiley=soapbox.gif]

Isn't this subject moot if ECM mods were done? Is there really anyone here with stock, uncorrected ECM's?

ultrafxr · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:31:07 PM »

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Isn't this subject moot if ECM mods were done? Is there really anyone here with stock, uncorrected ECM's?

MirageGWK · « **Reply #37 on:** December 16, 2006, 11:14:37 AM »

My Bke has 1,500 miles and is stock. That is why I want to hear more results of the upgrade before I proceed.

Hoist! · « **Reply #38 on:** December 16, 2006, 11:17:42 AM »

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Yup, I am.

FLHRSE3 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 16, 2006, 04:46:00 PM »

Had my flash done this morning with 3700 miles on a stock engine (so sorry to disappoint you Hoist).

HawgDoc · « **Reply #40 on:** December 17, 2006, 03:18:46 PM »

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I am taking a wait and see approach to this recall. Is H-D taking away some of the low end torque? I want to wait and hear the results from other CVO owners. [smiley=soapbox.gif]

It's not a recall. A dealer legally cannot sell a vehicle that has an open recall on it because it's normally a safety issue. This 'program' will never prevent a bike from being sold, and you do not have to have it done.
It's not a recall. It is an improved stock calibration. Stock calibrations have had improvements done to them since calibrations began, and dealers have always been advised to install the 'latest' stock cals in bikes whenever they see an earlier version in one.

If your bike has a SERT, the 'stock' calibration is no more, so the point is moot. But it's still not a recall.

Peace! (and happy holidays)

UglyJohn · « **Reply #41 on:** December 19, 2006, 12:24:26 AM »

I'm really leaning towards getting the SERT or T-Max soon anyway once I feel warm and fuzzy about the one I choose. The reflash should be all moot once one of these boys are installed and loaded. As mentioned in my prior post, a dealer ran the dyno and found the the numbers went down on the torque and hp. By how much, I don't know.

All I want to do is to get the back jug cooled down so that this engine will last. Not expecting to change out muffs or a/cleaner. I don't race so I don't need the extra HP or torque. My goal is to get some serious miles on the bike and wear the damn thing out. Gotta get every dime of my $36k out of that scooter.(gave up on new truck to get this bike) Anyway, that's my two cents worth.
Ugly John

Rhino · « **Reply #42 on:** December 19, 2006, 07:27:44 PM »

Hi UG,

If you wanna wear it out, wait for the TMAX & Auto Tune. If you can't wait till the new release, get the SERT too, and then find yourself a good dyno guy. MOCO will not let the techs mess with it unless they have a Dyno. (The problem still being finding someone who gives a S%$#).

What evva...

Rhino

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