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CVO Technical => General CVO discussion => Topic started by: Wrongway on February 09, 2008, 03:00:21 AM
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Why can't Harley Davidson tell us how many of our bikes are made? Limited to ???? in these ???? colors and they don't know how many? As a car guy as well as a rider of the finest (well?) bike, I know how important these numbers are to the buyer, so with limited production why the secrecy? If I still had my 1970 my Camaro that I got from my mom that got it from my brother who got it from a friend down the street I could tell you with certainty that a 1970 Camaro RS/SS with a 396 (Really a 402, but they didn't have badges for those) was 1 of only 410 made! That was 38 FRICKN years ago! And Harley FRICKN Davidson can't in 2008 tell me how many in the color and model of 4,000 made I have? Come on! I believe from what I see that for the 2006 FLHTCUSE the Emerald is the rarest, Autumn second and the Crimson has the highest production number. But why can't they keep track? Please enlighten me as why they would keep this a secret when every manufacture of motor vehicles out there can tell you production numbers? Sorry for the rant. Dave
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Dave a number of members have written letters to the MoCo and recieved in for produciton of their models, i'm sure if one of them sees this they can tell you how to do the same
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Why can't Harley Davidson tell us how many of our bikes are made? Limited to ???? in these ???? colors and they don't know how many? As a car guy as well as a rider of the finest (well?) bike, I know how important these numbers are to the buyer, so with limited production why the secrecy? If I still had my 1970 my Camaro that I got from my mom that got it from my brother who got it from a friend down the street I could tell you with certainty that a 1970 Camaro RS/SS with a 396 (Really a 402, but they didn't have badges for those) was 1 of only 410 made! That was 38 FRICKN years ago! And Harley FRICKN Davidson can't in 2008 tell me how many in the color and model of 4,000 made I have? Come on! I believe from what I see that for the 2006 FLHTCUSE the Emerald is the rarest, Autumn second and the Crimson has the highest production number. But why can't they keep track? Please enlighten me as why they would keep this a secret when every manufacture of motor vehicles out there can tell you production numbers? Sorry for the rant. Dave
Dave, I'm just curious . . . have you asked them? :nixweiss: The members here that have asked have received responses:
FXR Production Figures (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=10329.0)
2000 SERG Production Figures (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=17359.0)
2001 SERG Production Figures (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=2395.msg321100#msg321100)
2002 SERK Production Figures (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=20311.0)
SEEG Production Figures (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=17360.0)
We have a member pursuing this information for the 2006 SEUCs, currently, so hopefully, he'll hear back soon. Is there another model you're interested in? If so, I can e-mail you the letter that I used for the 2000 SERG and 2004 SEEG figures. The other members that have requested this information since then have been using my letter as a template. If you want it, please PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you.
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I have seen numbers for the FXDWG2 (I want one of those soooooo bad) range between 1200 and 1400 depending on who you talk to. The car that sits next to the CUSE in my garage is a 1996 Toyota Supra. They can tell you that,
1996 Production Numbers:
284 Total Supras Sold
88 were twin turbo (0 6spd/hardtops, 0 6spd/targas, 88 4spd auto/targas)
196 were non-turbos (168 targas, 28 hardtops)
You can then break it down between the 6 colors available and the Deep Jewel Green in my garage is one of 14 made. That is a 12 year old car and we didn't have to write the manufacture and ask. Why so secret?
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. . . I can e-mail you the letter that I used for the 2000 SERG and 2004 SEEG figures. The other members that have requested this information since then have been using my letter as a template. If you want it, please PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you.
BTW, offer's open to anyone else that wants to find this information out for their bike. We still need FXDWG2/3, 2003-current SERK, SED, V-Rod and other models. For the cost of a stamp and the time it took Wrongway to write the two posts in this thread, you could have this information on the way direct from Harley. They do keep track of the information, and from all accounts so far, it's there simply for the asking. :2vrolijk_21:
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I received a request for the letter from an '05 SEVR owner. So, here's a list of the models we still need:
FXDWG2 & FXDWG3
2003 & 2007 SERK
2003 & 2004 SEDeuce
2005 & 2006 SEFB
2006 SEVR
2007 SEUC
2007 SEDyna
2007 SESS
A dozen people who own the above bike or bikes and a dozen or fewer letters and we'll have the entire current CVO production from 1999 - 2007 documented on this site. Who wants to be next? :nixweiss:
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Why can't Harley Davidson tell us how many of our bikes are made? Limited to ???? in these ???? colors and they don't know how many? As a car guy as well as a rider of the finest (well?) bike, I know how important these numbers are to the buyer, so with limited production why the secrecy? If I still had my 1970 my Camaro that I got from my mom that got it from my brother who got it from a friend down the street I could tell you with certainty that a 1970 Camaro RS/SS with a 396 (Really a 402, but they didn't have badges for those) was 1 of only 410 made! That was 38 FRICKN years ago! And Harley FRICKN Davidson can't in 2008 tell me how many in the color and model of 4,000 made I have? Come on! I believe from what I see that for the 2006 FLHTCUSE the Emerald is the rarest, Autumn second and the Crimson has the highest production number. But why can't they keep track? Please enlighten me as why they would keep this a secret when every manufacture of motor vehicles out there can tell you production numbers? Sorry for the rant. Dave
Let me know if you know something about this ....I have an autumn haze one
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Let me know if you know something about this ....I have an autumn haze one
Jorge,
The letter on the 06 SEUC's has been done so we'll know something soon.
Bob
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Someone stepped up to send a letter for the '06 V-Rods. :2vrolijk_21: Updated list is below:
I received a request for the letter from an '05 SEVR owner. So, here's a list of the models we still need:
FXDWG2 & FXDWG3
2003 & 2007 SERK
2003 & 2004 SEDeuce
2005 & 2006 SEFB
2006 SEVR
2007 SEUC
2007 SEDyna
2007 SESS
A dozen people who own the above bike or bikes and a dozen or fewer letters and we'll have the entire current CVO production from 1999 - 2007 documented on this site. Who wants to be next? :nixweiss:
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I'll shoot you a PM with my email. I'll be more than happy to check on the 2007 SEUC.
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Thanks, GasRat! :2vrolijk_21:
Here's an updated list of the models we still need:
FXDWG2 & FXDWG3
2003 & 2007 SERK
2003 & 2004 SEDeuce
2005 & 2006 SEFB
2006 SEVR
2007 SEUC
2007 SEDyna
2007 SESS
Ten people who own the above bike or bikes and ten or fewer letters and we'll have the entire current CVO production from 1999 - 2007 documented on this site. Who's next? :nixweiss:
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Thanks, GasRat! :2vrolijk_21:
Here's an updated list of the models we still need:
FXDWG2 & FXDWG3
2003 & 2007 SERK
2003 & 2004 SEDeuce
2005 & 2006 SEFB
2006 SEVR
2007 SEUC
2007 SEDyna
2007 SESS
Ten people who own the above bike or bikes and ten or fewer letters and we'll have the entire current CVO production from 1999 - 2007 documented on this site. Who's next? :nixweiss:
Brian, pm sent :2vrolijk_21:
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Ok here goes. I was lucky enough to just call customer services and believe it or not was able to get all the info in a total of about 10 minutes. This has to be some kind of a record for shortest customer services call with getting all the info I really wanted.
The breakdown for 2007 SEUC made in each color are as follows,
B/O------1930
Red------1453
Blue------744
She was also nice enough to break it down to how many went to the state I am in which is,
California
B/O------103
Red------108
Blue------63
She also said that there were a few bikes made, that for what ever reason, did not have a color designated to them. So the Grand total of 2007 flhtcuse2's made were 4145.
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Do you believe those numbers to be accurate?? I remember I had a '89 Black and Silver, FLHTCU. I think JCZ had one the same color. Anyway, I called to see how many were built with that color scheme. HD told me there were only 350. If that was in fact a true statement, the other 349 of them were at Bike Week in Daytona, in 1991. Were you there, JC?? :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :nixweiss: Later--HUBBARD
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Ok here goes. I was lucky enough to just call customer services and believe it or not was able to get all the info in a total of about 10 minutes. This has to be some kind of a record for shortest customer services call with getting all the info I really wanted.
The breakdown for 2007 SEUC made in each color are as follows,
B/O------1930
Red------1453
Blue------744
She was also nice enough to break it down to how many went to the state I am in which is,
California
B/O------103
Red------108
Blue------63
She also said that there were a few bikes made, that for what ever reason, did not have a color designated to them. So the Grand total of 2007 flhtcuse2's made were 4145.
Hey, good job, GasRat! 18 that they don't know the color of, lol! ::)
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Jorge,
The letter on the 06 SEUC's has been done so we'll know something soon.
Bob
Thanks mi amigo Bob :2vrolijk_21:
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Brian, pm sent :2vrolijk_21:
E-mail sent! :2vrolijk_21: Let me know if you decide to go after the '05s, too.
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I like to know about the Red 07' SERK. Anyone hear about them yet?
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Ok here goes. I was lucky enough to just call customer services and believe it or not was able to get all the info in a total of about 10 minutes. This has to be some kind of a record for shortest customer services call with getting all the info I really wanted.
The breakdown for 2007 SEUC made in each color are as follows,
B/O------1930
Red------1453
Blue------744
She was also nice enough to break it down to how many went to the state I am in which is,
California
B/O------103
Red------108
Blue------63
She also said that there were a few bikes made, that for what ever reason, did not have a color designated to them. So the Grand total of 2007 flhtcuse2's made were 4145.
How many had leaks? How many bad cranks?
:bananarock: :orange: :mango: :pepper: :pineapple: :cucumber: :jalapeno:
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E-mail sent! :2vrolijk_21: Let me know if you decide to go after the '05s, too.
103, thanks
I edited the letter and asked for both 2005 & 2006 production years info for the Fat Boys, not sure how much significance will be put on the inclusion of the VIN #'s but I will have it in the mail tomorrow
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How many had leaks? How many bad cranks?
:bananarock: :orange: :mango: :pepper: :pineapple: :cucumber: :jalapeno:
I can vouch for one bad engine in a blue CUSE2. :'(
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Special_Ed is going to see if he can get all the remaining models. Ed, here is a list of the ones we still need:
FXDWG2 & FXDWG3
2003 & 2007 SE Road King
SE Deuce
2007 SE Dyna
2007 SE Softail Springer
This will be some interesting info. to have if we can obtain it from Harley. Thanks to everyone who is helping get the info. for all the various models!
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Wish me luck, letter will be mailed tomorrow.
Ed
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Wish me luck, letter will be mailed tomorrow.
Ed
Has anyone pursued 08 intent? :confused5:
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Has anyone pursued 08 intent? :confused5:
They're still manufacturing '08s. :nixweiss:
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They're still manufacturing '08s. :nixweiss:
Not sure. Spoke with member Pitsquid (Chris) yesterday at the dealer he's employed by and he said that they can't get anymore black diamond 08 SERKS, only what the MOCO is gracious enough to provide them with. And that "seems" to be existing inventory. All just an complitation of assumptions and you know where that'll get ya!! :huepfenlol2:
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Not sure. Spoke with member Pitsquid (Chris) yesterday at the dealer he's employed by and he said that they can't get anymore black diamond 08 SERKS, only what the MOCO is gracious enough to provide them with. And that "seems" to be existing inventory. All just an complitation of assumptions and you know where that'll get ya!! :huepfenlol2:
I hear ya. Who knows for sure what's going on, but I'd probably wait until the fall to start asking about the '08 models. Sorta give them the "benefit of the doubt," for lack of a better term.
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Below is the info I'm requesting. If you'd like I can add the 08's. What do you guys think?
2001 FXDWG2 – Scarlet Red with Gold Flames.
2002 FXDWG3 – Navy Blue with Silver Metallic Flames.
Vivid Black with Gold Flames.
2003 FLHRSEI2 Road King – Centennial Gold with Black and Burgundy Accents.
2003 FXSTDSE Deuce - Centennial Gold and Vivid Black with Gold Leaf Graphics.
2004 FXSTDSE2 Deuce – Yellow and Platinum Mist
Candy Cobalt and Starlight Black
2007 FLHRSE3 Road King – Razor Red with Burnt Gold Leafing graphics.
Candy Cobalt with Pale Gold Leafing graphics.
Black Ice with Pewter Leaving graphic.
2007 FXDSE Dyna – Silver Rush and Midnight Black.
Inferno Red and Desert Black.
Twilight Blue with Ice Blue Pearl and Granite.
2007 FXSTSSE Softail Springer – Amarillo Gold and Candy Tangerine with hand-
painted Tribal Flame graphics.
Abyss Blue and Blue Pearl with hand-painted Tribal
Flame graphics.
Canyon Copper and Candy Red with hand-painted
Tribal Flame graphics.
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Ed, looks good with the exception of adding the '04 Duece. As I posted above, I'd hold off on the '08s since presumably, they're still being produced and solid numbers would not be available until the end of the model run. Thanks again for pursuing this data for us! :2vrolijk_21:
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Check above, this include everything we need?
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I'm just one vote, but I say . . . . . let 'er rip! :2vrolijk_21:
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The printer is running...... :2vrolijk_21:
Mailed 14-Feb-08
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It's easy enough to request more info if needed later on if I missed anything that folks are looking for.
Ed :pepper:
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This place is turning into a research facility on CVO's ... :)....har! spyder
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This place is turning into a research facility on CVO's ... :)....har! spyder
What can we say, we love out bikes!?! :2vrolijk_21: ;D ;)
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This place is turning into a research facility on CVO's ... :)....har! spyder
That's the reason I found the site in the first place. I was trying to get info on the whole CVO line. I can't believe what all of us here have turned it into. ;) This is fun work...
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This is fun work...
fun - work
Another oxymoron
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fun - work
Another oxymoron
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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This place is turning into a research facility on CVO's ... :)....har! spyder
thats why the site was created, looking for info on my SERK
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thats why the site was created, looking for info on my SERK
And we're all glad you didn't find it right away. :2vrolijk_21:
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And we're all glad you didn't find it right away. :2vrolijk_21:
If had used Google instead of Yahoo we'd all be posting somewhere else... ;)
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thats why the site was created, looking for info on my SERK
And you've been draining bank accounts ever since! :nixweiss: :huepfenlol2: :P
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Not much use in asking about the 08's until about September or October, as they seem to always ship a couple here and there right at the end of production for the year.
Thanks, Ed...when all the data gets in, we need a sticky locked down for the total numbers that includes all years, colors, and numbers, IMO.
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Terry, in the sticky thread in this board is a link to a thread that "Black_Dog" started where he is keeping track of the production quantities by model, by color in an Excel spreadsheet. The thread is entitled "CVO Production History."
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=18323.0
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I did not see the 08 SERK as an info needed are the production #s for this posted some where?
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I did not see the 08 SERK as an info needed are the production #s for this posted some where?
Right now you could only get expected production numbers. Won't know the actual numbers until production ceases.
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Hi gang, whenever I feel like being ignored, I come to this site. :nixweiss:
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
They're still manufacturing '08s. :nixweiss:
I hear ya. Who knows for sure what's going on, but I'd probably wait until the fall to start asking about the '08 models. Sorta give them the "benefit of the doubt," for lack of a better term.
Ed, looks good with the exception of adding the '04 Duece. As I posted above, I'd hold off on the '08s since presumably, they're still being produced and solid numbers would not be available until the end of the model run. Thanks again for pursuing this data for us! :2vrolijk_21:
Terry, too! ;D :D ;)
Not much use in asking about the 08's until about September or October, as they seem to always ship a couple here and there right at the end of production for the year.
Thanks, Ed...when all the data gets in, we need a sticky locked down for the total numbers that includes all years, colors, and numbers, IMO.
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Hi gang, whenever I feel like being ignored, I come to this site. :nixweiss:
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Terry, too! ;D :D ;)
should just rename you Brian Dangerfield in this thread. :oops: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: har! spyder
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Right now you could only get expected production numbers. Won't know the actual numbers until production ceases.
OK DUH!! maybe I should examine my own biker behavior :o
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OK DUH!! maybe I should examine my own biker behavior :o
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
I'll be sending a letter out for all the 08's at the end of the year. I put a reminder in my calendar. :2vrolijk_21:
Did Brian say something??? ???
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103, thanks
I edited the letter and asked for both 2005 & 2006 production years info for the Fat Boys, not sure how much significance will be put on the inclusion of the VIN #'s but I will have it in the mail tomorrow
Here are the results of the SE Fat Boy's
2005
FLSTFSE Fat Boy Two Tone Electric Cherry / Vivid Black $27,995.00 Actual 1528
FLSTFSE Fat Boy Two Tone Candy Cobalt / Starlight Black $27,995.00 Actual 858
FLSTFSE Fat Boy Two Tone Platinum Mist / Slate $27,995.00 Actual 1290
2006
FLSTFSE2 Fat Boy Autumn Haze / Abyss Blue $28,495.00 Actual 1414
FLSTFSE2 Fat Boy Nebula Yellow / Cobalt Blue $28,495.00 Actual 1029
FLSTFSE2 Fat Boy Concord Purple / Canyon Copper $28,495.00 Actual 1189
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Alright! That didn't take very long! :2vrolijk_21: Hopefully, the rest of them will be coming in soon, too! :huepfenjump3:
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But, where are the '08's???? :nixweiss: har! spyder
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But, where are the '08's???? :nixweiss: har! spyder
Will not be available until they stop making them (at least the non-anniversary numbered edition ones). You don't think the MoCo would plan to make a certain amount (that weren't numbered X of XXXX) and just shut off production if somebody still wanted one that might hinder their profit. :nixweiss:
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Fired00d
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