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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: Billy on July 17, 2007, 09:00:34 PM

Title: True track
Post by: Billy on July 17, 2007, 09:00:34 PM: I'm looking into the True Track, St-8 or the TRZ stabalizer. Does any0ne know if there is a performance difference between the 3 Thanks Billy
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Midnight Rider on July 18, 2007, 06:24:13 PM: Quote from: Billy on July 17, 2007, 09:00:34 PM
I'm looking into the True Track, St-8 or the TRZ stabalizer. Does any0ne know if there is a performance difference between the 3 Thanks Billy

Billy...I don't know of a direct comparison anyone has done, but most seem happy with any one of the three. They all seem to accomplish the same end result, just in slightly different ways.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on July 19, 2007, 07:32:19 AM: I picked a little vibration through te floor boards aroung 2400-2500 rpm with the ride-str8. I opted for that only because the tru track was not available but I notice there is a little more gound clearance and it tucks in a little better.

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Hoist! on July 19, 2007, 08:33:23 AM: Quote from: miker on July 19, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
I picked a little vibration through te floor boards aroung 2400-2500 rpm with the ride-str8. I opted for that only because the tru track was not available but I notice there is a little more gound clearance and it tucks in a little better.

Miker

I have a TrueTrack, but I recently saw that they have a new style, without the adjustment rods. I notice no adverse effects from it. And I've not gotten any wobble yet either. Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on July 19, 2007, 08:51:48 AM: Quote from: Hoist on July 19, 2007, 08:33:23 AM
I have a TrueTrack, but I recently saw that they have a new style, without the adjustment rods. I notice no adverse effects from it. And I've not gotten any wobble yet either. Hoist! 8)

Tween the stab and new shocks the back half is a loy better, I need to trax the front....and pay the painter
(looks good so far, just needs to cleared with about a bazillion coats for love bug protection), pay the resto guy, shipping company, anyone else/

What cams have you selected Howie?

Thanks

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Hoist! on July 19, 2007, 09:09:26 AM: Quote from: miker on July 19, 2007, 08:51:48 AM
Tween the stab and new shocks the back half is a loy better, I need to trax the front....and pay the painter
(looks good so far, just needs to cleared with about a bazillion coats for love bug protection), pay the resto guy, shipping company, anyone else/

What cams have you selected Howie?

Thanks

Miker

WTF is that thing mike? :nixweiss: Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Talon on July 19, 2007, 09:32:49 AM: Howie, I think you posted this somewhere else, but did you notice much difference when you installed your True Track.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ironhorse on July 19, 2007, 09:52:04 AM: I choose the RideStr8 over the others because it allows you to use the RivCo Centerstand.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on July 19, 2007, 10:05:49 AM: Quote from: Hoist on July 19, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
WTF is that thing mike? :nixweiss: Hoist! 8)

I don't quite know but it is effin hugh, talk about heat issues! Silly Euro's

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Hoist! on July 19, 2007, 10:15:57 AM: Quote from: miker on July 19, 2007, 10:05:49 AM
I don't quite know but it is effin hugh, talk about heat issues! Silly Euro's

Miker

If that's a V configuration, that thing is 48 cylinders! :o Now that's some scary lookin' chit! :nixweiss: Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: True track
Post by: flyingwillie on July 19, 2007, 10:52:40 AM: I have the Alloy Art TXR stabilizer on the SEEG. No issues. I only went with that one because it's the prefered one of my mechanic.
:cherry:
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ghost Rider on July 19, 2007, 10:58:39 AM: Quote from: flyingwillie on July 19, 2007, 10:52:40 AM
I have the Alloy Art TXR stabilizer on the SEEG. No issues. I only went with that one because it's the prefered one of my mechanic.
:cherry:

I have this stabilizer as well. (I only went with it because I got a good deal on it off of Ebay :2vrolijk_21:).

I can't compare it to any of the others since this is my first one, but it is very easy to install, no extra vibration, and you can feel a difference in how the back end follows the front.

Ghost
Title: Re: True track
Post by: flyingwillie on July 19, 2007, 04:35:41 PM: Quote from: Ghost Rider on July 19, 2007, 10:58:39 AM
I have this stabilizer as well. (I only went with it because I got a good deal on it off of Ebay :2vrolijk_21:).

I can't compare it to any of the others since this is my first one, but it is very easy to install, no extra vibration, and you can feel a difference in how the back end follows the front.

Ghost

Ghost, please do not tell me what you paid for yours on ebay and I won't tell you what list price I paid!! Dammit. :-\
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ghost Rider on July 20, 2007, 09:45:25 AM: Quote from: flyingwillie on July 19, 2007, 04:35:41 PM
Ghost, please do not tell me what you paid for yours on ebay and I won't tell you what list price I paid!! Dammit. :-\

DEAL! :2vrolijk_21:

Trust me, for those keeping score, the BAD DEALS are still well ahead of the GOOD DEALS. :D

Later,
Ghost
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Twolanerider on July 20, 2007, 10:28:57 AM: Quote from: Ironhorse on July 19, 2007, 09:52:04 AM
I choose the RideStr8 over the others because it allows you to use the RivCo Centerstand.

Mark, one thing I discovered (at least on mine) recently. The RideStr8 device can stand a bit of regular maintenance. The heim joints on that rear cross link can get awfully stiff living in all the mess and muck they are exposed to.

Had to unhook the outboard link on mine recently to allow a path to remove a harness from an o2 sensor. The joint moved, but only with effort that was too significant to be comfortable. A little WD40 and some compressed air got it moving again completely freely. Cleaned up both ends while I was at it. Think that doing this will now be part of the bikes annual spring clean-up and service.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ironhorse on July 26, 2007, 04:17:41 AM: Quote from: Twolanerider on July 20, 2007, 10:28:57 AM

Mark, one thing I discovered (at least on mine) recently. The RideStr8 device can stand a bit of regular maintenance. The heim joints on that rear cross link can get awfully stiff living in all the mess and muck they are exposed to.

Had to unhook the outboard link on mine recently to allow a path to remove a harness from an o2 sensor. The joint moved, but only with effort that was too significant to be comfortable. A little WD40 and some compressed air got it moving again completely freely. Cleaned up both ends while I was at it. Think that doing this will now be part of the bikes annual spring clean-up and service.

Twolanerider,

Thanks for the tip. I'll check mine and clean and lube the joints.

Mark
Title: Re: True track
Post by: RJ749 on July 26, 2007, 09:37:05 AM: I went with the "full meal deal" with Tru-trak.

When I had my mishap recently (oldtimers I think) the bike did great, but I have been tinking. It took a pretty good lick and when we got it back on the road it was like nothing happend.

I would speculate the all of the Tru-trak stuff including the metal bushing etc. had to have added to the bikes ability to withstand the tossing and twisting it went through going down. Specualtion I admit, but I have gone 500 miles or so since the mishap and it is straight and true as before.

I don't have a good comparison of just the Tru-trak add since I also did the Traxxion forks and 440's at the same time, but I know these are all mods I will do on any new bagger I get, based on the improved handling of the bike after the mods. Now if the rider could keep up with the bike I'd be in great shape.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ironhorse on July 26, 2007, 07:05:01 PM: Quote from: Twolanerider on July 20, 2007, 10:28:57 AM

Mark, one thing I discovered (at least on mine) recently. The RideStr8 device can stand a bit of regular maintenance. The heim joints on that rear cross link can get awfully stiff living in all the mess and muck they are exposed to.

Had to unhook the outboard link on mine recently to allow a path to remove a harness from an o2 sensor. The joint moved, but only with effort that was too significant to be comfortable. A little WD40 and some compressed air got it moving again completely freely. Cleaned up both ends while I was at it. Think that doing this will now be part of the bikes annual spring clean-up and service.

TwoLaneRider,

Well I cleaned the Heim joints, and you were right. They needed cleaning and oiling. I was amazed at the amount of gunk and stuff that came out of the joints. In addition to crud and dirt, part of the ball surfaces were worn and scored. I polished them as best as possible with extra fine steel wool and WD40, then lubed them with White Lithium Grease before reinstalling.

I guess this will be another once a year thing to do.

Mark
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Twolanerider on July 26, 2007, 07:07:38 PM: Quote from: Ironhorse on July 26, 2007, 07:05:01 PM
TwoLaneRider,

Well I cleaned the Heim joints, and you were right. They needed cleaning and oiling. I was amazed at the amount of gunk and stuff that came out of the joints. In addition to crud and dirt, part of the ball surfaces were worn and scored. I polished them as best as possible with extra fine steel wool and WD40, then lubed them with White Lithium Grease before reinstalling.

I guess this will be another once a year thing to do.

Mark

Precisely the same on the red bike Mark.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Hoist! on July 26, 2007, 07:32:04 PM: Does the True Track require this too? :confused5: Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Ironhorse on July 26, 2007, 08:02:45 PM: Quote from: Hoist on July 26, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
Does the True Track require this too? :confused5: Hoist! 8)

I don't know, I am unfamiliar with the Tru-Track set up.

I'm surprised that no one has come up with some kind of rubber boot, or condom to put over those things to keep the crud out. But it's not a big deal to clean and lube it, I did it in less than half an hour. I bet if I hit it regularly with WD40 and lube that would help a lot.

Mark
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Twolanerider on July 26, 2007, 08:16:07 PM: Quote from: Hoist on July 26, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
Does the True Track require this too? :confused5: Hoist! 8)

Pretty sure there is a heim joint at each end of the stabilizer link that goes between the brace in the dog bone and the bracket that surrounds the transmission pan. That being so from what we've seen here I'd give them at least a once-a-year clean and lube. A little WD-40, silicone or other spray a little more often couldn't hurt anything.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Texas 103 on August 10, 2007, 07:53:24 AM: Quote from: Talon on July 19, 2007, 09:32:49 AM
Howie, I think you posted this somewhere else, but did you notice much difference when you installed your True Track.

Gettting ready to install a SE 6 Spd.Trans in my '06. And am going back with Sto Bo Bushings. According to Kevin at Sta-Bo,these do the same thing as the Tru-Track by "limiting the lateral travel of the swingarm. We will see>>>Said that I didn't need both products on...:let you all know next week>>>>Greg
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Texas 103 on September 07, 2007, 02:23:21 PM: Quote from: Texas 103 on August 10, 2007, 07:53:24 AM
Gettting ready to install a SE 6 Spd.Trans in my '06. And am going back with Sto Bo Bushings. According to Kevin at Sta-Bo,these do the same thing as the Tru-Track by "limiting the lateral travel of the swingarm. We will see>>>Said that I didn't need both products on...:let you all know next week>>>>Greg

Installed the Sta-BO's rode to Hot Springs and back>>> Bike handles great , can't deal with the Extra vibration they create yanked em out Reinstalled Tru-Trac and away we go>>> >>>> Greg
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Talon on September 07, 2007, 03:58:21 PM: Quote from: Texas 103 on September 07, 2007, 02:23:21 PM
Installed the Sta-BO's rode to Hot Springs and back>>> Bike handles great , can't deal with the Extra vibration they create yanked em out Reinstalled Tru-Trac and away we go>>> >>>> Greg

Greg, did you notice any difference in handling from one to the other? Which worked best, viberation was pretty bad??
Title: Re: True track
Post by: ultrafxr on September 07, 2007, 05:04:33 PM: Quote from: Texas 103 on August 10, 2007, 07:53:24 AM
Gettting ready to install a SE 6 Spd.Trans in my '06. And am going back with Sto Bo Bushings. According to Kevin at Sta-Bo,these do the same thing as the Tru-Track by "limiting the lateral travel of the swingarm. We will see>>>Said that I didn't need both products on...:let you all know next week>>>>Greg
From my discussion with Kevin Sta-Bo and only Sta-Bo is any good. He trashed every other device. Hey if you got the goods then you can brag I guess. But I just didn't like his attitude and from the problems others have had with virbations I don't think Sta-Bo is the answer and the only answer. JMO
Title: Re: True track
Post by: SPIDERMAN on September 07, 2007, 05:13:09 PM: Ask MJZ how he likes the True-Track on Elvis. Just bought one for LD. Can't wait to get it on

IMHO It's True-Track or you're off track ;D

B B
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 07, 2007, 08:36:12 PM: Quote from: SPIDERMAN on September 07, 2007, 05:13:09 PM
Ask MJZ how he likes the True-Track on Elvis. Just bought one for LD. Can't wait to get it on

IMHO It's True-Track or you're off track ;D

B B

I ground the TT flange to a nub, got worried and tried a ride str8..It is tucked up a little higer and seems to work as well. Any improvement, plus progressise 440. I am waiting(saving) on the traxxion struts for the front.

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Twolanerider on September 07, 2007, 09:16:47 PM: Quote from: miker on September 07, 2007, 08:36:12 PM

I ground the TT flange to a nub,

Any chance you took a pic of what had happened?
Title: Re: True track
Post by: twojay on September 07, 2007, 10:32:18 PM: I saw a new version of the true track on the fbi (fat bagger inc) website today under their new products. Any thoughts as to whether or not the new version is better than the old one? Before I get the "worthless without pics" thread, ;D if someone will tell me how to send a link when posting a reply I will do it. I thought there was a way to do this on my toolbar but if so I can't find it now.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Fired00d on September 07, 2007, 10:36:25 PM: Quote from: twojay on September 07, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
I saw a new version of the true track on the fbi (fat bagger inc) website today under their new products. Any thoughts as to whether or not the new version is better than the old one? Before I get the "worthless without pics" thread, ;D if someone will tell me how to send a link when posting a reply I will do it. I thought there was a way to do this on my toolbar but if so I can't find it now.

Here you go...

Traction Master By True-Track (http://store.fatbaggers.com/tractionmaster.html)

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-81226325006369_1961_40055837)

:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 08, 2007, 03:43:46 PM: Quote from: Twolanerider on September 07, 2007, 09:16:47 PM

Any chance you took a pic of what had happened?

No, :oops:. It was the lower leading edge outboard of the device that got ground off.
I think if I had the progressives on it then it would maybe not have rubbed down.
All the mechanical attachment point parts were undamaged...It worked good that is for sure, anything to tighten the rear end up is good, (especially on the bike!) It is just symantics as to what king of gizmo you pick, I think...JMHO. The Oldster doesn't have that problem being a hardtail!

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 12, 2007, 08:34:18 AM: That noe is different than the old one. I looks like they removed the the right side attachment flange...It looks like a ride-str8 but still covers the bottom of the tranny.

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 12, 2007, 08:36:28 AM: Quote from: Twolanerider on September 07, 2007, 09:16:47 PM

Any chance you took a pic of what had happened?

Here is what was similar to mine only mine was worse.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 12, 2007, 08:37:38 AM: This is different. You do pick up some vibration however, but you are attaching the motor to frame so...

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: RJ749 on September 12, 2007, 09:02:28 AM: I have the entire True Track system with bushings and at the same time I did the Traxxion front forks and Progressive rears.

The total change was beyond dramatic, although I can't specifically say what the True Track alone would do, the bike tracks and handles like a different bike altogether.

I wouldn't get a new bike without doing the mods immediately.
Title: Re: True track
Post by: miker on September 12, 2007, 09:05:23 AM: I need and want to get the front end done, I have to figure logistics....
I think I dragged my Tru- Track because I had not put the 440's on. It does make a difference. The rideStr8 works too.

Miker
Title: Re: True track
Post by: Hoist! on September 17, 2007, 12:18:06 PM: Quote from: miker on September 12, 2007, 09:05:23 AM
I need and want to get the front end done, I have to figure logistics....
I think I dragged my Tru- Track because I had not put the 440's on. It does make a difference. The rideStr8 works too.

Miker

I put my SERK back to stock RK height with the AK-20's and BiTubos. I've had the True Track from day one. I don't scrape it and get a bike jack under with no problem! Love it! ;)

Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: True track
Post by: hafbad0 on September 18, 2007, 06:50:47 AM: Quote from: miker on September 12, 2007, 08:36:28 AM
Here is what was similar to mine only mine was worse.

This one is also the same as mine. I purchased the True Track because it was the only one available at the time. It made a vast improvement on my FLTRSEI especially after installing the 440 shocks. My riding buddies wonder why I can take the curbs on the on/off ramps faster that they will even attempt to. I am going to put one on my 08 also. I will stick to what I know that works. :2vrolijk_21: