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[Copper/Black Cvo]

I'm Looking to buy a Full Face Helmet for riding.  The Modular face helmets look more comfortable that the old style full face helmets.

I'm Trying to decide between

http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmets.asp

or

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/product_launch_multitec.aspx

Any Suggestions???

[Chief]

I'm Looking to buy a Full Face Helmet for riding.  The Modular face helmets look more comfortable that the old style full face helmets.

I'm Trying to decide between

http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmets.asp

or

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/product_launch_multitec.aspx

Any Suggestions???

The most important factor is how the helmet fits your head. Try them on and get the one that is most comfortable on your head. I tried to find a flip-up that would fit my head, but the only thing that fit me turned out to be the Arai Profile.

Check out WebBikeWorld.com they have a really great section on helmets.

Good luck.

[sadunbar]

I'm Looking to buy a Full Face Helmet for riding.  The Modular face helmets look more comfortable that the old style full face helmets.

I'm Trying to decide between

http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmets.asp

or

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/product_launch_multitec.aspx

Any Suggestions???

I have the Nolan and like it.  But, a helmet is a really personal thing...  Different features are important to each person.  Personally, I can not stand wind noise in a helmet.  I have helmets that are very comfortable, but the wind noise is bad - so those helmets occupy shelf space.  If is possible to borrow a helmet from a dealer or friend, that would be the best test.  But like I said, I really like my Nolan.

Scott

[kojak]

I have a Shoei X-ELeven I use in bad weather. Its one of the best helmets on the market in my opinion.

[Midnight Rider]

I'm Looking to buy a Full Face Helmet for riding.  The Modular face helmets look more comfortable that the old style full face helmets.

I'm Trying to decide between

http://www.jmcorp.com/NolanHelmets.asp

or

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/road/product_launch_multitec.aspx

Any Suggestions???

The Shoei helmet looks very nice and we all know they are extremely well made.  Like others have said, it's all about how it fits your head.  The convenience of the flip face feature, especially if you wear glasses, is a feature I'll never do without again.  I have the Nolan, as does my BSR, but we first went to a local BMW/Ducati/Triumph dealer to try on helmets.  I could immediately tell that the Nolan was the one for me.  It's very easy to operate with one hand, even with winter gloves on.

I also have the HD Stealth Flame flip face which I use on my Vrod...it is also an excellent helmet and very comfortable for me.  Probably a little noisier than the Nolan, but has an excellent flip up mechanism.  I think it's made by KBC?  It is well vented too.

If there is a Beemer dealer near you, they tend to carry the better brands of helmets, IMO.  Worth a trip to try different ones on.

[MJZ]

As you can see, I have both the Shoei and Nolan in flip faces. They fit amazingly similar, I prefer the Nolan NCOM system to the J & M communication but the J & M is a couple of years old and they have probably improved it. Also the Nolan has a great quick release buckle system that is easy to do with even heavy gloves.

[Fired00d]

As you can see, I have both the Shoei and Nolan in flip faces. They fit amazingly similar, I prefer the Nolan NCOM system to the J & M communication but the J & M is a couple of years old and they have probably improved it. Also the Nolan has a great quick release buckle system that is easy to do with even heavy gloves.

I'm sure the color doesn't have anything to do with it.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[MJZ]

That yellow one puts the U in ugly, I wore it once and caught chit from my wife for months. The black Nolan on the right is the one I wear 90% of the time.

[Fired00d]

That yellow one puts the U in ugly, I wore it once and caught chit from my wife for months. The black Nolan on the right is the one I wear 90% of the time.

That's a shame because I bet the original intent was to match it up w/your

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[MJZ]

That's a shame because I bet the original intent was to match it up w/your

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

You guessed it but the color matches the GW and it looks like chit next to my 

[Boatman]

I have a Nolan full face flip up helmet and a Shoei 3/4 face helmet.  After a couple hours with the Nolan, my neck felt like it was broken.  Not so with the Shoei.  My 3/4 Shoei is Snell approved and it is interesting on your link that the Shoei full face does not say anything about Snell, just DOT..  Like everyone has stated, how it fits is the factor.  I normally try them on locally and then order on line if the local doesn't want to deal.  Thanks for the Shoei link as I may need to try one of them on.   

[Midnight Rider]

I'll second the ease of operation on the Nolan's strap...makes life a lot easier when wearing heavy gloves.

[Copper/Black Cvo]

Great Info..........

Are there any other brand that I should consider?

[Boatman]

Great Info..........

Are there any other brand that I should consider?

Well, I had brain fade.  My 3/4 helmet is an Arai and not a Shoei.  From what I can tell from Arai's website, Arai still doesn't make a full face flip up helmet.  Arai's are also Snell approved and are great helmets.

[JCZ]

I wear the Nolan N-102 N-Com.  This helmet is incredable.......and that comes from a guy who's last helmet was a Nolan N-100 flip face. I bought that last helmet based merely on Motorcycle Consumer News (the Consumer Reports of the motorcycle industry) comparison tests of the 10 most common flip face helmets.  That helmet was pretty remarkable compared to all the other helmets that I have on my shelves.

But switching to the new Nolan N102 N-Com it's an even better helmet.  It's the quietest helmet (at any speed) that I've ever wore.  It's also the easiest to operate......even with gloves on.  Opening the full face part of it has to be (and is according to MCN) the easiest to operate with gloves on, in the market.  The same goes for removing the chin strap, when you have gloves on.  I do both, one handed with no problems.  The added flip up sun visor comes in very handy.  You leave home with it down, but when you return after dark, just flip up the tinted visor part of the face shield and you still have the clear.  Just an all around great helmet.

By the way, I order mine from Jim (hd-dude) on the web site here.  He was able to beat the prices that I could find on the net.  You might want to contact him, I think he might start carrying Nolan and the bluetooth stuff, too.  I've ordered the N-com basic kit and the bluetooth as well for both of us, for the wireless intercom part of it.

[hard10]

I made a mistake  I really lucked out when I bought my Nolan sight unseen after recomendations from this site.  I went with the Nolan 102 w/ J&M pre-wired. I love it. I should have tried it on before spending $600 but it came w/ a return policy so... The plug on the side of the helmet broke and was just replaced by J&M, under warranty, in Daytona.

[Twolanerider]

Great Info..........

Are there any other brand that I should consider?

Another consideration separate from brand is vision.  Some are much better than others allowing good peripheral vision.  Unfortunately when trying on a lid peripheral vision isn't something that is usually being considered.  We're thinking about how it fits on the head.  So whatever you try just remember to make a conscious act of remember to look sideways too.

[Copper/Black Cvo]

I now am leaning toward the Nolan N102 N-Com without headset, and how I understand the whole intercom/Blue Tooth stuff by reading there website.

I am suppose to order the Nolan without the headset because I do not have anything to plug the intercom into.

Is this right....Just want to make sure and order the right helmet..........

[Chief]

I now am leaning toward the Nolan N102 N-Com without headset, and how I understand the whole intercom/Blue Tooth stuff by reading there website.

I am suppose to order the Nolan without the headset because I do not have anything to plug the intercom into.

Is this right....Just want to make sure and order the right helmet..........

Just like a pair of shoes, helmets should be tried on. I wanted a Nolan real bad. We got my wife one and she loves it. I really wanted the flip up. I tried and tried to convince myself that the Nolan was for me. It just didn't fit my head shape. I'm a "long oval" and the Nolan is more for those with a rounder face than mine.

You really need to put on a helmet for a good 30 or 45 minutes in a store to see if it's comfortable; unless you just want to start a collection of helmets you love but can't wear.

It wasn't until I went HERE that I found a helmet that fit my head. Unfortunately I could not find a flip-up that fit me and I wound up with a standard full face helmet. The research paid off because the helmet I got is absolutely the most comfortable helmet I have ever worn.

Good luck, but don't rush it.

[MJZ]

I now am leaning toward the Nolan N102 N-Com without headset, and how I understand the whole intercom/Blue Tooth stuff by reading there website.

I am suppose to order the Nolan without the headset because I do not have anything to plug the intercom into.

Is this right....Just want to make sure and order the right helmet..........

Remember the NCOM Bluetooth works with some MP3, Telephones and GPS units.
Also Chief is right, you saw part of my helmet collection in the picture. Most came from ordering online and not trying on first and wearing for 30+ minutes in a store. DON'T DO WHAT I DID!

[JCZ]

I now am leaning toward the Nolan N102 N-Com without headset, and how I understand the whole intercom/Blue Tooth stuff by reading there website.

I am suppose to order the Nolan without the headset because I do not have anything to plug the intercom into.

Is this right....Just want to make sure and order the right helmet..........

If you're going with the Nolan N102 N-Com helmet, you could now or later also get the bluetooth set up for wireless phone and intercom between you and passenger (or even another rider with the same set up that is riding within 60' or so of you......the reception range of bluetooth).  This is the set up that I ordered since my bike doesn't have an intercom/CB system stock, on the bike. 

I could have went with the "wired" version and it would have been a little more affordable but I didn't want to deal with all the wires and cables.

I've got the helmets and like I stated above, they're the best that I own (I've got more than my share of helmets).  Perreprial vision is mentioned above and that is one of the things the Motorcycle Consumer News tested on each model with this helmet coming in with high marks.  Once I get the bluetooth (hopefully in the next week or so) gear for both helmets, I've post a little review on here.

[hogasm]

Not to thread jack here.........has anyone tried the bluetooth with a 3/4 helmet?

I bought a flip up and it drives me crazy. Ended up riding with the face fliped up.

[Boatman]

Not to thread jack here.........has anyone tried the bluetooth with a 3/4 helmet?

Tim and Karen, the couple that rode with me to MV on their Ultra, have 3/4 Arai helmets with the J&M headsets and love the helmets and the headsets.  They went from full face helmets with the MOCO's set up for headsets.  Hope this helps.

[Copper/Black Cvo]

If you're going with the Nolan N102 N-Com helmet, you could now or later also get the bluetooth set up for wireless phone and intercom between you and passenger (or even another rider with the same set up that is riding within 60' or so of you......the reception range of bluetooth).  This is the set up that I ordered since my bike doesn't have an intercom/CB system stock, on the bike.

[/b]

I'm new at this, Are you stating that I can use my Cell Phone with Blue Tooth capability to work the 2 Nolan Helmets ?

Is there a Kit that you buy and install into the Nolan Helmets or Can you just buy 2 Nolan Helmets with this feature already in place?

How does this all work ? The short simple version would be great....

Thanks....

[twojay]

I'm new at this, Are you stating that I can use my Cell Phone with Blue Tooth capability to work the 2 Nolan Helmets ?

Is there a Kit that you buy and install into the Nolan Helmets or Can you just buy 2 Nolan Helmets with this feature already in place?

How does this all work ? The short simple version would be great....

Thanks....

Excuse me for jumping in but I believe what he was saying was that you could use your bluetooth phone with the Nolan if you bought the bluetooth kit for the Nolan. That kit would also allow you to talk to someone else if they also had a Nolan with the bluetooth kit. Try this page for additional info. http://ncom.nolan.it/Index_ENG.aspx   Good luck, jj

[hd-dude]

I'm new at this, Are you stating that I can use my Cell Phone with Blue Tooth capability to work the 2 Nolan Helmets ?

Is there a Kit that you buy and install into the Nolan Helmets or Can you just buy 2 Nolan Helmets with this feature already in place?

How does this all work ? The short simple version would be great....

Thanks....

As with all Blue tooth unit they can only be "paired" with one other blue tooth device at a time. If you have it paired to your cell then you cannot talk to your passenger via bluetooth without disconnecting from the phone and "pairing" to your partners helmet.

For your helmets you'll need a Ncom compatible helmet, either the Nolan N102 (full face flip-up), N84 (road full face), N42 (jet) or the N32 (demi-jet). For each helmet you'll need a Ncom basic kit and a blue tooth kit.

[Twolanerider]

Dude is completely correct but please don't take from his description that you can't have Bluetooth to phone functionality and helmet to helmet intercom at the same time.  You can.  It would just require using Bluetooth connection to the phone and a wired connection between the helmets for the intercom.

The audio kit for the Nolan helmets includes the connections for this.  It has the connection for the Bluetooth module along with two wired connections.  One of those is an input to be taken from any other audio source (MPS, GPS, etc) while the other is for the helmet to helmet intercom.  You could do helmet to helmet Bluetooth.  Doing so would eliminate using the phone though.

The passenger helmet would not even need the Bluetooth module.  Only the audio kit installed within it.  That'd save a few dollars.  If it did have the Bluetooth module, however, the passenger could pair to her own phone independently of the driver and his phone.

[MJZ]

My N-COM had been working perfectly for quite awhile then a few days ago, poof - it died. Called Nolan customer service, we tried several things (for about 1/2 an hour) then, just joking he said I'm sure you charged it up.  Felt like a complete idiot. I had forgotten about charging it since it has been running off the first full charge the entire time. Note to self, charge it once a month if it needs it or not.

[twojay]

Dude is completely correct but please don't take from his description that you can't have Bluetooth to phone functionality and helmet to helmet intercom at the same time.  You can.  It would just require using Bluetooth connection to the phone and a wired connection between the helmets for the intercom.

The audio kit for the Nolan helmets includes the connections for this.  It has the connection for the Bluetooth module along with two wired connections.  One of those is an input to be taken from any other audio source (MPS, GPS, etc) while the other is for the helmet to helmet intercom.  You could do helmet to helmet Bluetooth.  Doing so would eliminate using the phone though.

The passenger helmet would not even need the Bluetooth module.  Only the audio kit installed within it.  That'd save a few dollars.  If it did have the Bluetooth module, however, the passenger could pair to her own phone independently of the driver and his phone.

Maybe I am mistaken but I thought if your helmet had the bluetooth module and your passenger's also had it, that you could communicate via the bluetooth connection with your passenger in addition to using your phone via a bluetooth connection??

[Twolanerider]

My N-COM had been working perfectly for quite awhile then a few days ago, poof - it died. Called Nolan customer service, we tried several things (for about 1/2 an hour) then, just joking he said I'm sure you charged it up.  Felt like a complete idiot. I had forgotten about charging it since it has been running off the first full charge the entire time. Note to self, charge it once a month if it needs it or not.

Once a month?  Damn... 


I've found in use that mine will last through any full day of regular use.  Including a day that included four hours of so the the MP3 player in the Garmin GPS playing audio constantly through the Bluetooth connection.  With phone only use have had it go two days that included a fair bit of usage.  Honestly never tried to push it farther than that though.  Got in the habit of putting in the charger early on so it doesn't get the chance to leave me alone.

[Twolanerider]

Maybe I am mistaken but I thought if your helmet had the bluetooth module and your passenger's also had it, that you could communicate via the bluetooth connection with your passenger in addition to using your phone via a bluetooth connection??

The Bluetooth module will pair to one device.  So it could pair to another NCom Bluetooth module or a phone or a GPS unit (or whatever).  But only one device at a time.

[JCZ]

I'm new at this, Are you stating that I can use my Cell Phone with Blue Tooth capability to work the 2 Nolan Helmets ?

Is there a Kit that you buy and install into the Nolan Helmets or Can you just buy 2 Nolan Helmets with this feature already in place?

How does this all work ? The short simple version would be great....

Thanks....

Here are some links that kind of helped me to sort it all out.........  
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203037

This link shows how the bluetooth works rider to passenger, wireless intercom and bike to bike.  You can also use your bluetooth mobile but not at the same time that you're on the intercom system (see hd-dude's post above).  For the wireless intercom rider to passenger or rider to rider, all parties involved need to have the bluetooth kit, according to the Nolan rep.

http://ncom.nolan.it/system/ncom_intercom_bluetooth_eng.htm

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148324

http://www.thebonners.net/gbonner/

http://ncom.nolan.it/faq/Index_ENG.htm

I hope that you find these links helpful.

[JCZ]

Maybe I am mistaken but I thought if your helmet had the bluetooth module and your passenger's also had it, that you could communicate via the bluetooth connection with your passenger in addition to using your phone via a bluetooth connection??

You can, but not both at the same time.  If you're using wireless intercom with your passenger and your phone rings, you have to disconnect from the intercom to take the call.......as it was explained to me by the Nolan rep.  I spent a lot of time on the phone with the guy and he was very helpful.

He said that the two guys he always ride with, they just use the bluetooth phone to communicate rather than the intercom because they generally don't ride that close together (he said they're good up to about 60').

I can see where this helmet with these features will come in real handy on our group rides.

[Copper/Black Cvo]

Thanks guys for all this good info on the Nolan Helmets & Communicating with them...

I was speaking to a BMW Dealer today which carries the Nolan Line...He stated that when riding the Road King the static and noise from the bike engine and Rhineharts Dual Exhaust will make the intercom non functionally.   

He basically told me not to waste my money on buying   

The Basic kit
This is the standard equipment with the N-Com system, and is easy to install on the inside of your Nolan N-102 N-Com ready helmet. This is necessary to start ANY N-Com setup

or

The Intercom BoxThe Intercom Box allows wired communication between rider and passenger when installed in the rider's helmet.

I am sure that there are Harley Roadking owner on this website that have used this setup....I want to just be able to talk to my passenger while riding not answer the phone or listen to music....I Would love to hear there opinion on noise & static going threw the intercom system.......

Again Thanks for all your help....

[JCZ]

I'll let you know shortly, how the bluetooth intercom works on a loud Harley.  Somebody else can let you know about the other systems (and there are several) that are available out there.  Chatterbox is one of the big ones that's available.

[Twolanerider]

Thanks guys for all this good info on the Nolan Helmets & Communicating with them...

I was speaking to a BMW Dealer today which carries the Nolan Line...He stated that when riding the Road King the static and noise from the bike engine and Rhineharts Dual Exhaust will make the intercom non functionally.   

He basically told me not to waste my money on buying   

The Basic kit
This is the standard equipment with the N-Com system, and is easy to install on the inside of your Nolan N-102 N-Com ready helmet. This is necessary to start ANY N-Com setup

or

The Intercom BoxThe Intercom Box allows wired communication between rider and passenger when installed in the rider's helmet.

I am sure that there are Harley Roadking owner on this website that have used this setup....I want to just be able to talk to my passenger while riding not answer the phone or listen to music....I Would love to hear there opinion on noise & static going threw the intercom system.......

Again Thanks for all your help....

Have had no static or interference issues from the bike.  No emissions from the bike have impacted the wireless com.  The bike isn't hardwired to any of the helmet com so nothing from direct connection either.  Ambient noise will just depend on how loud your pipes are.

For auxiliary hardware you'll need the "basic kit" in each helmet no matter what you do.  That's just the speaker and mic package that includes the various auxiliary wired connection points and battery charger connection. 

If you want more than just wired inputs from things like a CD player or GPS device you'll need either the Bluetooth module or the intercom kit.  The intercom kit is a volume control and interface module that attaches where the bluetooth module would otherwise.  It also includes the audio cable to go from helmet to helmet.  You'd need an intercom kit for each helmet.

The alternative would be one intercom kit and one Bluetooth kit if you wanted Bluetooth connectivity in one of the lids.  You could also do Bluetooth modules in each lid.  The Bluetooth module gives the volume and other interface controls for all functions that the intercom module would for only the intercom function.

Take a look here to see some of it visually:  http://ncom.nolan.it/module/Index_ENG.htm

Prices of $100 for the basic kit, $250 for a bluetooth module and $125 for an intercom kit are currently shown at this US vendor:  http://www.helmetshop.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=01-NCOM-11&Tp=

It was a quick look that found that vendor.  I've seen the stuff offered cheaper before.  It'd pay to shop a bit.

[Billy]

Has anyone looked inter Blueant interphone . My wife and I use them with full face helmets. They work to 500 feet on intercom. and you can switch to Phone or Zumo when you need to change. So far the only draw back is with intercome on they only last five hours. But goo all day with Zumo or cell phone. Very simple hook up to helmets. We love them Never talked to my wife SO much in my life.  E- bay now sells them for 110. bucks del. Billy

[JCZ]

Has anyone looked inter Blueant interphone . My wife and I use them with full face helmets. They work to 500 feet on intercom. and you can switch to Phone or Zumo when you need to change. So far the only draw back is with intercome on they only last five hours. But goo all day with Zumo or cell phone. Very simple hook up to helmets. We love them Never talked to my wife SO much in my life.  E- bay now sells them for 110. bucks del. Billy

So am I correct in assuming that they're not built into the helmet like Nolan?  Do you have photos that you can post?