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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2009, 09:16:37 AM »

We've seen that happening in Europe. HOG allowed the chapters to continue without a dealer, as a "free" chapter.

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in switzerland a few chapters have carried on with the "national hog rep" acting as the sponsoring dealer.
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2009, 10:03:06 AM »


What dealers???

San Juan Capistrano closed Dec 31st with a 40% off sale, but probably just tee-shirts. The HOG chapter at that location was disbanded, but there are other chapters in the area to pick them up.  Doc
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2009, 02:22:45 PM »

San Juan Capistrano closed Dec 31st with a 40% off sale, but probably just tee-shirts. The HOG chapter at that location was disbanded, but there are other chapters in the area to pick them up.  Doc

They closed and only marked stuff down 40% ? 

Unfreakinbelieveable. Abusing their customers to the bitter end.

They should have sold everything at cost plus 10% to clear out the inventory.

The dealerships that act as regional parts depots for H-D sell at cost plus 10%.

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2009, 01:03:19 AM »

They closed and only marked stuff down 40% ? 

Unfreakinbelieveable. Abusing their customers to the bitter end.

They should have sold everything at cost plus 10% to clear out the inventory.

The dealerships that act as regional parts depots for H-D sell at cost plus 10%.

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Don't you think 40% discount is almost the same as cost +10%?
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2009, 01:10:34 AM »

They closed and only marked stuff down 40% ? 

Unfreakinbelieveable. Abusing their customers to the bitter end.

They should have sold everything at cost plus 10% to clear out the inventory.

The dealerships that act as regional parts depots for H-D sell at cost plus 10%.

B B



Don't you think some of the stock was sent back to the manufacturer for credit on outstanding balances?

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2009, 01:15:15 AM »

They closed and only marked stuff down 40% ? 
Unfreakinbelieveable. Abusing their customers to the bitter end.
They should have sold everything at cost plus 10% to clear out the inventory.
The dealerships that act as regional parts depots for H-D sell at cost plus 10%.
B B

Hell they should have sold it all at cost if the're closing.

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2009, 04:40:55 AM »

business is business, closing down or not u gotta pay your outstanding commitments, I am not defending the stealer but thinkin of the folks now unemployed!
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2009, 10:19:05 AM »

I just read this story out of Michigan :

"Outside of Flint, one project going up is the Vehicle City Harley-Davidson store on Austin Parkway at I-75 in Flint Township. That store is expected to open in April, replacing the Cummings Harley-Davidson store on Davison Road in Burton."

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2009, 10:25:49 AM »

Within a half hour drive there are four other Harley Dealers in the area and it was just too much. The location of this dealership was really bad and not worth going out of the way for in my opinion. The location should be a destination and this was more of a satelite site buried in a industrial complex. I think they knew they screwed up before it opened.
I don't know if anyone else has heard of it but they had a points program for HOG discounts. You had to buy at retail and earn points depending on the amount of purchase and when it got to the $25 mark you could redeem them. Your points expired at the end of the year if not used.  ???  ...or go down the freeway a little ways and get your HOG discount without the hassle. Doc
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2009, 10:34:20 AM »

It was probably the strangest location of any dealership that I've been to across this nation.  I was in the area on business and I could see it from the freeway but it's certainly not easy to find once you take the off ramp.....even after calling them.

They did have a very nice logo on their t-shirts thow. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2009, 08:01:26 PM »

Don't you think 40% discount is almost the same as cost +10%?

You are correct, in fact on many items it's less than cost.
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2009, 08:52:31 PM »

The items had to get rid of to another dealer or back to the MOCO would be the dealer branded stuff.
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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2009, 01:14:16 AM »

Don't you think some of the stock was sent back to the manufacturer for credit on outstanding balances?

Absolutely AJ which is why I said cost PLUS 10% and not cost. I don't begrudge anyone making a buck even when they're going out of business, but with one last hurrah, you'd think they'd have done everything they could to make a buck. 10% of something beats 100% of nothing if you're closing up shop.

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2009, 07:55:40 AM »

Dealers are starting to deal to stay afloat.

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Re: Can HD Survive the downturn (Article on MSN.com)
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2009, 03:51:36 PM »

This just came in from smallcapinvestor.com:

"Looking at sector activity, motorcycle manufacturers, aluminum firms, coal companies, gold stocks, metal and mining firms, semiconductors, building products and hotels were among the worst performers today. Major aluminum firm Alcoa Inc. (NYSE:AA) said it  would slash 13,500 jobs and reduce output, which sparked an 8% slide in Alcoa’s stock and rippled throughout the mining sector. Gold prices took a hit today, which also triggered sales in gold shares."
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