Like an earlier post, I dont have a great fondness for these guys.But there is a reason. I met Paul Sr. and Jr. at Marcus Dairy a local meet that has gone down hill rapidly.It was right after their first bike they built for Discovery. They were in the middle of the parking lot with a small trailer and were readily accessable to chat or whatever. then they blew up and a couple of years ago in Laconia you had to pay and stand on line to see them. Billy Lane doesn't charge for you to see him or did Indian Larry,and those 2 (RIP Larry) are great builders.So thats my 2 cents. Later ,Q