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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1605 on: September 17, 2019, 09:40:25 PM »

I've looked around and can't seem to find the information in any of the posts or paperwork I have. What size injectors are included with the kit? Just wondering what they are since all I can find is high flow injectors.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1606 on: September 18, 2019, 02:06:41 PM »

Sorry for asking so many questions.

Back in the middle of this thread there was talk of a thicker air filer for the stock ventilator elite. Does anyone have a part number?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1607 on: September 18, 2019, 09:17:15 PM »

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1608 on: September 18, 2019, 10:08:18 PM »

Call them
https://tilleyhdofsalisbury.com/specials

Thanks Don. I'd tried looking and could never find this. The link that's was in the older posts didn't work.

So to ask the next stupid question, Is this better than going to the Extreme Billet Ventilator?


On a side note, I got the baffles in today for the Khrome Werks mufflers. Got them installed but it was too late to go for a ride. I figure I'll take it out tomorrow over the same road I rode before and see if I feel a difference. My one question is do I need to have it retuned because I did this?



Here is the muffler without the baffles.



And then with the baffles installed.



So we'll see tomorrow how it rides.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1609 on: September 19, 2019, 09:59:06 AM »

A pipe change forces a retune but considering your bad first experience I would not recommend going back there.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1610 on: September 19, 2019, 11:15:16 AM »

A pipe change forces a retune but considering your bad first experience I would not recommend going back there.

Yes I agree but I'm hoping since they JUST tuned it maybe they'll give me a discount??? Not sure it's worth the trouble though. We know the Screaming Eagle tuner is handicapped becasue of the EPA regs and I should have just canceled the ESP right away. Now I have a SEPST that will sit on a shelf in my shop. Once you're done with the head work and it's spring we'll really see what this thing can do.

Because I had bought my PV from Fuel Moto I can get a tune for this bike and just use it instead...… Most likely the smarter thing to do anyhow and probably should have just done that in the first place and said SCREW the ESP. Hindsight is always 20/20   :( >:( :oops:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1611 on: September 19, 2019, 04:06:51 PM »

We have a guy 3 miles from my shop that has a dyno jet 250ix with the latest software and is a PV guy.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1612 on: September 20, 2019, 06:05:22 PM »

So I didn't ride it yesterday but I had an appointment in Yakima today with my prosthesis to get cast for a new socket. So I left early and rode the same backroads I'd done before.

WOW  :o :o  :mango:;D ;D  :bananarock: :) :)  :pineapple: :2vrolijk_21:

So I am sure it would be better with a retune but WOW man o man it made a huge difference in how it runs below 3K RPM's. And now in 1st gear when you blip the throttle it wants to rip them out of your hands. So I'm more impressed now and can't wait to get some more seat time. Going to the VA in Seattle on Monday for an appointment and then taking the bike back to the dealer to have the clutch safety switch replaced.

It would be interesting to see what it would do now on the dyno. I know it's more or less wasted money but I'd like to see what it does on the same dyno before I get anymore work done to it.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1613 on: September 23, 2019, 08:04:21 PM »

So I didn't ride it yesterday but I had an appointment in Yakima today with my prosthesis to get cast for a new socket. So I left early and rode the same backroads I'd done before.

WOW  :o :o  :mango:;D ;D  :bananarock: :) :)  :pineapple: :2vrolijk_21:

So I am sure it would be better with a retune but WOW man o man it made a huge difference in how it runs below 3K RPM's. And now in 1st gear when you blip the throttle it wants to rip them out of your hands. So I'm more impressed now and can't wait to get some more seat time. Going to the VA in Seattle on Monday for an appointment and then taking the bike back to the dealer to have the clutch safety switch replaced.

It would be interesting to see what it would do now on the dyno. I know it's more or less wasted money but I'd like to see what it does on the same dyno before I get anymore work done to it.

Remember that earlier post where you are not chasing numbers? Let the set of your pants tell you that you made an improvement till you do the rest of your work then get a good tune from a person who knows how to tune.
Unless your like the rest of us where there never seems to be an end and happy is only till you get used to that new found motor...

Congratulations and enjoy your ride
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1614 on: September 24, 2019, 08:15:53 PM »

Remember that earlier post where you are not chasing numbers? Let the set of your pants tell you that you made an improvement till you do the rest of your work then get a good tune from a person who knows how to tune.
Unless your like the rest of us where there never seems to be an end and happy is only till you get used to that new found motor...

Congratulations and enjoy your ride

I'll admit the bug has BIT me and it was a heck of a BITE.  :mango: :bananarock: :huepfenjump3: 

So I had to take the bike back over to the HD dealer to fix my clutch safety switch and they said they would throw it on the dyno and see what the baffles did for $50 so I did it.



And then a chart showing the old pull and the new.



So at this point unless I want to throw my PV on it and cancel my ESP this is what the SEPST will get me.

As far as rideability goes it is AWESOME and I couldn't be happier with it.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1615 on: September 24, 2019, 08:53:35 PM »

It obvious the new baffles helped the torque dip a lot, looks more ridable.

A good tuner like TTS and a proper tune would give you even more
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1616 on: September 24, 2019, 09:26:00 PM »

I am looking at the graphs off my phone so I can't see them real well but did you post the same sheet twice?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1617 on: September 24, 2019, 10:36:24 PM »

I posted the new sheet with the AFR and then the sheet with both the prior pull and the new run on it also.

It obvious the new baffles helped the torque dip a lot, looks more ridable.

A good tuner like TTS and a proper tune would give you even more

Yes I agree 100%
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1618 on: September 25, 2019, 01:03:26 AM »

I am looking at the graphs off my phone so I can't see them real well but did you post the same sheet twice?
I'm seeing the same thing as Yellow:  the new run twice, no sheet with both old and new.  Even so, that new run is obviously much better than previous.  Really shows the TQ difference between wide-open baffles and ones providing enough resistance to flow.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1619 on: September 25, 2019, 01:48:52 AM »

OOPs   :oops: :oops:

There went back and fixed it. Sorry about that the copy and paste didn't work the first time.
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