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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin' Eagle® Electra Glide® => Topic started by: CVOwner on July 21, 2008, 03:51:14 PM
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I cant get the headlight plug off. I can only get my fingers on the plug sides, I cant get enough grip on it to squeeze and pull it off. I need some help with this, what am i doing wrong here? its really hard to get inside behind the headlight and then just cant seem to exert enough pressure to squeeze and pull. HELP!!!
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Take the headlight trim ring off (1 screw on the bottom) then just remove the whole headlight assembly, 4 more screws.
I found this to be much easier then wrestling with the 3 wire harness' on my HID light. And because the HID kit is bigger I ended up breaking off one of the small alignment ears while trying to wrestle the fairing back on.
In the end it is much easier to just remove the headlight assembly.
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I think I am missing something... You remove the chrome bezel, then the screws that hold the headlight in and you can hold the headlight in one hand and pull the plug with the other, can't you? Sometimes it is hard, but I have always been able to wiggle up and down a bit and it comes apart. What am I missing? I'd be happy to help if I could imagine a better picture. :2vrolijk_21:
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I'm not trying to bust chops, but did you take out the 2 lower fairing screws by the steering neck? They are hard to see if you don't know to look.
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I think I am missing something... You remove the chrome bezel, then the screws that hold the headlight in and you can hold the headlight in one hand and pull the plug with the other, can't you? Sometimes it is hard, but I have always been able to wiggle up and down a bit and it comes apart. What am I missing?
Jamey - I think he is trying to take the fairing off without removing the headlight. That is the way I did it until I tried the assembly removal trick.
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yes, all screws are out, the fairing tilts forward 3-4 inches and I can get my hand almost on the connection. All screws are out 3 on top 2 on sides and 2 on bottom under tripkle tree.
I didnt know you could remove the headlight from the front DOH!! I've never pulled a fairing, and the ones I've seen off have had the headlight in them. thanks
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Jamey - I think he is trying to take the fairing off without removing the headlight. That is the way I did it until I tried the assembly removal trick.
Whew!
I started thinking that since the VA rated me as disabled, I might be worse than originally noted! :nervous:
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Whew!
I started thinking that since the VA rated me as disabled, I might be worse than originally noted! :nervous:
Good one. No, i just thought you pushed the fairing forward and reached in and pulled the plug, and then remove the whole lot!
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Good one. No, i just thought you pushed the fairing forward and reached in and pulled the plug, and then remove the whole lot!
Uh, that's how I do it. Is everyone else removing the whole headlight assembly from outer fairing? :nervous: :nixweiss:
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I pulled the outer fairing off mine last week. I left the headlight in, but it was tough getting my hand in to remove the headlight plug. My headlight plugs turn about a quarter turn and come out - probably much easier than having to deal with one of those plugs that you have to squeeze the releases to pull out.
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CVO, one small trick that is surprisingly helpful is to pull a sock over each spotlight. Painted surface on cotton slide easier than painted surface against shiny metal. And you worry about it less.
You can slide the fairing up one side first. So that it's trapped behind only one spotlight and allow yourself much more room to get at the headlight plug. Have a screwdriver in your right rear pocket handy in case the socket seems difficult to get off and you need a little leverage.
Otherwise yes you can remove the headlight bucket right out of the nose of the fairing. After getting the trim ring off just be sure and take out only the screws that go in the fairing body itself. Don't loosen the screws that have large springs behind them. Those springs are part of the headlight adjustment. If you turn those your headlight might be chasing squirrels on the side of the road after reassembly.
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I too have found it hard at times to get the front of the fairing of and what I have found is if you have tension on the fairing it's putting pressure on that clip that plugs into the headlight. If you can get a smaller arm in there and have someone hold the fairing up relieving the tension you can get that clip unplugged. You have to squeeze it and pull at the same time to get the prongs to release.
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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I too have found it hard at times to get the front of the fairing of and what I have found is if you have tension on the fairing it's putting pressure on that clip that plugs into the headlight. If you can get a smaller arm in there and have someone hold the fairing up relieving the tension you can get that clip unplugged. You have to squeeze it and pull at the same time to get the prongs to release.
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Fired00d
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Or; BFH.
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Or; BFH.
That is one tool I have in my limited tool box. :nervous:
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Fired00d
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That is one tool I have in my limited tool box. :nervous:
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Fired00d
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right next to your brand new never used dremel... ;D
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right next to your brand new never used dremel... ;D
:ROFLOL: Good one. :2vrolijk_21:......
Chithead!!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenjump3:
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Fired00d
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Or; BFH.
I could offer the use of my small(er) hand... ???
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I could offer the use of my small(er) hand... ???
I'm certain he could finger something out.
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CVO, one small trick that is surprisingly helpful is to pull a sock over each spotlight. Painted surface on cotton slide easier than painted surface against shiny metal. And you worry about it less.
You can slide the fairing up one side first. So that it's trapped behind only one spotlight and allow yourself much more room to get at the headlight plug. Have a screwdriver in your right rear pocket handy in case the socket seems difficult to get off and you need a little leverage.
OK....Don pulls out the Handy little sock trick
but dare I ask where that sock has been?
or better yet....was that 2 left (leaning) socks) or 2 righties?
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OK....Don pulls out the Handy little sock trick
but dare I ask where that sock has been?
or better yet....was that 2 left (leaning) socks) or 2 righties?
Don't know whether they were left or right; but here's one that made me laugh out loud.
We've all shared the sock-as-tool thing here. Apparently the trick has legs. Last summer I'm sailing across southeastern Missouri on US60 just short of the turn-offs to the rivers and the bridges. Come around a pearl white Ultra on the highway and notice a couple of nice fluffy white socks flapping in the breeze. I think he forgot something when he finished up the night before.
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CVOwner-
Don't feel bad about not being able to easily unplug the headlight as it is hard to squeeze and pull at the same time. Will get easier the more the fairing is off. Once you get the plug off, put some dielectric grease on the terminals of the plug.
As Porthole stated, it is sometimes easier to just pull the headlight out as mentioned and then unplug. With the Bi-Xenon headlight, there is no other choice than doing it that way. And, cover the front fender up.
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Will get easier the more the fairing is off.
Since my fairing has only been off once or twice no wonder it's still difficult....
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Since my fairing has only been off once or twice no wonder it's still difficult....
That was total, not just off last week!
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That was total, not just off last week!
:2vrolijk_21:
ohhhhhhh ??? . Well, in that case: 42,584,658,132,458,941,325,327. Give or take a couple.
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Since my fairing has only been off once or twice no wonder it's still difficult....
You probably have it zippered or velcroed, Don.. :)
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You probably have it zippered or velcroed, Don.. :)
Hmmmmmm; entirely new concept . :bulb2:
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I remove mine without removing the headlight first, and one of the things that helped the most was 2lane's little "sock on the spots" trick. After opening it up the first time, I played with the routing of the wiring to get a little more slack and subsequent removals have been a piece of cake.
Jerry
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Since my fairing has only been off once or twice no wonder it's still difficult....
That was total, not just off last week!
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I thought he was talking about within the last hour. :confused5: :D
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Fired00d
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I thought he was talking about within the last hour. :confused5: :D
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Fired00d
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Be nice or I'll poke you with you know whose you know what ??? .
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Be nice or I'll poke you with you know whose you know what ??? .
huh? ???
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Be nice or I'll poke you with you know whose you know what ??? .
Bad, bad, bad. :huepfenlol2:
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Fired00d
:fireman:
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Good one. No, i just thought you pushed the fairing forward and reached in and pulled the plug, and then remove the whole lot!
You can, but as you have found out sometimes it just gets a little difficult. I use to always take off the fairing with the headlight in, until I had a problem with the getting the HID assemble to stay in the socket.
So now I always just pull the headlight, literally takes just 5 minutes or less and makes taking the faring off much easier and with less drama.
Of course the old sock trick works just as well weather you pull the headlight or not.
And, as "boatman" mentioned, if you pull the headlight, put a towel on the fender (should probably do that anyway).
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Uh, that's how I do it. Is everyone else removing the whole headlight assembly from outer fairing? :nervous: :nixweiss:
Brian - I think you may find that those who have loaded the inside of their fairing with accessories and wires (amps -bigger speakers - HID's etc)
find it easier to just pull the headlight, only takes a couple of extra minutes and with the HID it makes it much easier. My HID has 3 separate wire connectors with rubber seals that add to the disconnect effort.
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I'm not trying to bust chops, but did you take out the 2 lower fairing screws by the steering neck? They are hard to see if you don't know to look.
First, my method of removal comes from what everyone (especially Don) has told me.
Somewhere along that path I got a tip I use every time (along with the socks, Candy's and they are thick & pink!) is a magnet place directly under the screws mentioned here by erniezap. 90% of the time I get that screw out and drop the sombitch into the bottomless pit in the neck area. :oops: That magnet will catch it every time, saves a lot of time and verbolics are limited! :2vrolijk_21:
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OK, its off, the LED bulbs are really bright, it worked out great. Now I might as well put that new headlight in that HD has for 94.95, the old school glass one is really a dated look. Do I need to get that trim ring? part number 67726-71A I have to order the whole deal online and usually if I order it first, I dont need it, if I dont, I need it. Has anyone done an 04?
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I have to order the whole deal online and usually if I order it first, I dont need it, if I dont, I need it. ?
Definitely sounds like me. Sorry, can't help on the trim ring fitment.
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OK, its off, the LED bulbs are really bright, it worked out great. Now I might as well put that new headlight in that HD has for 94.95, the old school glass one is really a dated look. Do I need to get that trim ring? part number 67726-71A I have to order the whole deal online and usually if I order it first, I dont need it, if I dont, I need it. Has anyone done an 04?
Are you speaking of the smooth lens headlight that came on the '05's? You have a P/N. If it is the one that came on the '05's I have changed mine to that and you can use the stock trim ring, however I did add the visor ring over it.
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Fired00d
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Are you speaking of the smooth lens headlight that came on the '05's? You have a P/N. If it is the one that came on the '05's I have changed mine to that and you can use the stock trim ring, however I did add the visor ring over it.
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Fired00d
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Dood, Do you have any pics of that visor? did you do the spots too? I have the trim ring on it now, looks ok, I thought about that pointed visor and the headlight. Might as well get it all at once.
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Are you speaking of the smooth lens headlight that came on the '05's? You have a P/N. If it is the one that came on the '05's I have changed mine to that and you can use the stock trim ring, however I did add the visor ring over it.
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
68342-05
7" Domestic
Fits '00-later FL Softail® and Touring models equipped with 7" headlamp. Some '00-'04 Touring models may require Retaining Ring P/N 67726-71A for installation. See your Dealer for details.
MSRP US $94.95
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Dood, Do you have any pics of that visor? did you do the spots too? I have the trim ring on it now, looks ok, I thought about that pointed visor and the headlight. Might as well get it all at once.
68342-05
7" Domestic
Fits '00-later FL Softail® and Touring models equipped with 7" headlamp. Some '00-'04 Touring models may require Retaining Ring P/N 67726-71A for installation. See your Dealer for details.
MSRP US $94.95
That is the bulb I used in mine right after the SEEG2's came out w/them. My I-connection is slower then molasses today, but check this thread - I Need Pictures of Your CVO Electra Glide (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=18040.0) I posted pictures of my bike for Chief when he was looking for paint schemes of the SEEG's.
I also put the visors on the spots.
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Fired00d
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Can I get at the garage door mod out without taking the headlight out. I'm not real sure where it is locared under the fairing.
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Can I get at the garage door mod out without taking the headlight out. I'm not real sure where it is locared under the fairing.
You mean can you remove the garage door transmitter without removing the headlight?
You're removing the headlight with the fairing to get at the GD transmitter.
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Can I get at the garage door mod out without taking the headlight out. I'm not real sure where it is locared under the fairing.
As Don stated, remove the whole outer fairing.
Regarding the original post about the headlight connector hard to disconneect-my 05 was a pain to disconect, whereas the 09 Streetglide you easily squeeze the headlight plug and simply pull off. Also easier to get the fairing out/off than my 05. :nixweiss:
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All the dealer told me was that the mod for the garage opener is under the fairing.
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All the dealer told me was that the mod for the garage opener is under the fairing.
Correct, a little flat box mounted to the inner fairing and wired to the headlight plug. Then you have the receiver that mounts to the opener on the door.
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do I have to remove the fairing and headlight or just tilt it?
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do I have to remove the fairing and headlight or just tilt it?
If you take all the screws loose to remove the fairing and try to lean it off to the right side you'll be free of one spotlight anyway. You'll be making it more difficult rather than less. Just remove the thing.
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Brian - I think you may find that those who have loaded the inside of their fairing with accessories and wires (amps -bigger speakers - HID's etc)
find it easier to just pull the headlight, only takes a couple of extra minutes and with the HID it makes it much easier. My HID has 3 separate wire connectors with rubber seals that add to the disconnect effort.
This guy is pulling it for the first time. There should be nothing in the way except for squeezing the clip. The worst thing to do is to take the headlight out everytime. Sooner or later you will need to repair the threads in the ABS. If the headlight needs to come out for what ever reason then I do it. But never just to remove the fairing!
Be Safe
THE DAWG
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I have done it both ways and now I always remove headlight first, just easier for me.
Once headlight is out fairing has that easy front handle to remove.
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I took out the light and the fairing came off very easy. Also helped when installing to line up the bottom two fairing screws.
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The secret to lining up ALL of the screws is to get them ALL started before tightening any of them up. It is easier to wiggle the fairing around to get them all started.
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THE DAWG
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When I have to put the fairing on by myself, I put in the screw under clutch and under front brake and tighten them to about halfwayit allows the fairing to stay pretty stable and allows me to move the lower portion of the fairing around to line up the holes under the triple tree.
Also on the take off, i put a pair of gym socks (clean ones dont want to hurt the chrome) and slide one side of the fairing off, it makes it easier to get the the plug on the back of the light and it stops the fairing from being scratched on the lights.
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Also on the take off, i put a pair of gym socks (clean ones dont want to hurt the chrome) and slide one side of the fairing off, it makes it easier to get the the plug on the back of the light and it stops the fairing from being scratched on the lights.
Socks are a permanent addition in the tool locker. :2vrolijk_21:
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Socks are a permanent addition in the tool locker. :2vrolijk_21:
Clean I hope!!!!!
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THE DAWG
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brandy new when I put the m in the drawer
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You need old worn out the DAWG has chewed on to ease over the spot lamps!
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THE DAWG
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You need old worn out the DAWG has chewed on to ease over the spot lamps!
yeah maybe, but my dawgs always chew out the middle :nixweiss:
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Socks are a permanent addition in the tool locker. :2vrolijk_21:
Crown Royal bottle pouches :2vrolijk_21:
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Crown Royal bottle pouches :2vrolijk_21:
Too high class for me - although - my English in-laws have turned me on to the the fine crafts of the 16 men of Tain.