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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2019, 04:44:01 PM »

Steve, Great information and thanks for explaining!!!! Merry Christmas my friend... You DEFINITELY know your stuff and explain it perfectly for us with less knowledge..
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2020, 08:04:08 AM »

Are they done with your bike yet?  How did it turn out, Dyno sheet?
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2020, 12:44:36 PM »

Are they done with your bike yet?  How did it turn out, Dyno sheet?
. Funny you asked!!! I got a call on Thursday afternoon, My bike was making 140 HP and 156 Torque, Problem he is having is I’m losing 10 FT pounds of torque in the 3500 RPM range, He tried everything he could to try and remove the dip tuning with my PV... He asked me if I would let him tune using the Direct tune method, He says there is definitely more to get out of the motor and he said he will clean up the 3500 RPM dip using this method.... I should hear back from him on Monday and pick my bike up early next week... I definitely will be posting the entire parts list and the dyno graph.... I also thought I read somewhere these 550 cams can be hard to tune??? BUT 156 Torque already!!! CANT wait!!!! I possibly could see 142-145HP and around 160 Torque when completed.... You will be the first person on here I show the Dyno graph too... SOON my friend 😎
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2020, 03:32:57 PM »

70-75 HP per cylinder.  Think about that for a minute.
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2020, 11:46:33 PM »

Very tempting!!
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2020, 07:50:51 AM »

Sounds like that is going to be very nice.
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2020, 09:05:42 AM »

Dyno sheet on the build ?
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2020, 11:49:02 AM »

Dyno sheet on the build ?
Waiting to have it also put on the Dyno in SAE readings... I don’t want people to think I’m up to something posting them on Just one Dyno.. I will post both sheets when completed my friend.. The line looks perfect, Around 157 Torque at 3500 RPM... So in SAE it might say 150-153?? I’m happy either way, Just don’t want to try to defend my build with just 1 Dyno run... Soon my friend.... Hopefully everyone understands my point.. I have seen already on another post about my bike someone saying... Just go to their site, The builders and read their crayon charts, kinda really uncalled for in my world.... I’m just trying to have fun and enjoy this site....
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2020, 06:46:11 PM »

I think the crayon charts were mentioned as pertaining to Harley's own standardized drawings  :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2020, 08:27:18 AM »

I think the crayon charts were mentioned as pertaining to Harley's own standardized drawings  :huepfenjump3:
Agreed. The charts HD show do look like crayon drawings.
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2020, 06:20:43 AM »

Agreed. The charts HD show do look like crayon drawings.

I too agree and they way they are formatted they are not user friendly from HD.  Good shops dyno charts are more informative and easier to read.
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2020, 07:44:45 AM »

Waiting to have it also put on the Dyno in SAE readings... I don’t want people to think I’m up to something posting them on Just one Dyno.. I will post both sheets when completed my friend.. The line looks perfect, Around 157 Torque at 3500 RPM... So in SAE it might say 150-153?? I’m happy either way, Just don’t want to try to defend my build with just 1 Dyno run... Soon my friend.... Hopefully everyone understands my point.. I have seen already on another post about my bike someone saying... Just go to their site, The builders and read their crayon charts, kinda really uncalled for in my world.... I’m just trying to have fun and enjoy this site....

Another factor is the vintage of the Dyno. The first Dynojet 100-200 series notoriously read higher than the latest models with Winpep 8 software. 250I with winpep 7 or 5 seem to be the samples used for compassion. Winpep 6 and before on an earlier Dynojet can be as much as 10% low.
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2020, 08:52:09 AM »

Another factor is the vintage of the Dyno. The first Dynojet 100-200 series notoriously read higher than the latest models with Winpep 8 software. 250I with winpep 7 or 5 seem to be the samples used for compassion. Winpep 6 and before on an earlier Dynojet can be as much as 10% low.

So funny how dyno charts from who TF knows where have become documented facts used for arguable comparison. If your doing actual testing, data from the same dyno with the same operator is comparable and nothing else. Data from various dyno rooms is for entertainment, marketing and talking smack. And that's why we are all here. lol..  8)

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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2020, 09:22:01 AM »

More so I look at trends than the peak numbers myself .
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Re: Dropped my 19 CVO RG off to Hillside motorcycle on Monday for 128 build
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2020, 09:27:29 AM »

More so I look at trends than the peak numbers myself .


True but I have to say I've been surprised on how close 3 different dynos have been on my 2010 CVO 110 (Hillside heads). Each time I was making upgrades and then tuning,  so the baseline could be compared to the previous upgrade dyno from the other shop. They were never more than 2-3hp different which could easily be a matter of the humidity on that day, not the dyno.
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