Topic: Tour Pak speakers vs Saddle Bag Lid speakers which is a better upgrade? (Read 5145 times)

Supershooter · « **on:** February 11, 2017, 02:23:37 PM »

I have a removable tour pak on my 2011 SESG and was wondering if I'd be better off adding tour pak speakers or saddle bag lid speakers, my BSR can barley hear the music when we are out and about. It wasn't ever an issue with my Ultra. Pro's Con's recommendations, experience...What do you think?
Supershooter

kojak · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM »

At speed, both are a poor option. You are better off putting a high quality stereo with top fairing and lower fairing speakers. She'll be able to hear the music no problem. I have really high quality lid speakers on my cvo roadglide and they are fine at low speeds, after that forget it. I have owned limited ultra's in the past where I've upgraded the pod speakers and wasted money. My cvo sg has focals in the top and lower fairings and sounds better than any bike I've upgraded in the past.

grc · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2017, 09:53:40 AM »

The best option would be speakers in her helmet (assuming she wears one of course). There are many ways to add audio to a helmet these days, from wired systems to Bluetooth.

Jerry

FlaHeatWave · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2017, 10:06:27 AM »

I agree with kojak

& Jerry

Boomerscvo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2017, 01:44:32 PM »

I run 6.5 speaker in my tour pack, sound is much better than the lids!!

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CVODON · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2017, 08:36:11 PM »

No speakers you can install will equal good in-helmet speakers.

Supershooter · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2017, 09:38:42 PM »

We typically wear 1/2 helmets, which is probably 80% of the time give or take. I'm not sure if I'm real excited about in the helmets, what are my options. The tour pak speakers on the 2010 SEUC we previously had was adequate for my bride...
Supershooter

FLSTFI Dave · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2017, 08:28:22 AM »

Quote from: CVODON on February 12, 2017, 08:36:11 PM

No speakers you can install will equal good in-helmet speakers.

What speakers would you consider good in-helmit speakers? I sure am not impressed with the head set speakers that come with CVO's. Sound is not near as good as the bikes speakers.

kojak · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2017, 05:31:21 PM »

You have to decide whats good enough for your bride. I sometimes make the mistake of thinking everyone wants an audiophile type motorcycle stereo, its not worth the investment for everyone like it is for me.

Rooster · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2017, 03:40:35 PM »

I bet four Focals up front sounds awesome.

The only time I hear the tour pak speakers is when I ride solo which isn't that much.

kojak · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2017, 06:13:59 PM »

Quote from: Rooster on February 14, 2017, 03:40:35 PM

I bet four Focals up front sounds awesome. The only time I hear the tour pak speakers is when I ride solo which isn't that much.

Yeah, last year at Biketoberfest, late at night parked on main street I cranked it up playing some old school funk and next thing I knew there was a party going on around my bike! I thought I was going to kill my battery for sure.

Cvostu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2017, 11:45:36 PM »

I like the tour pack speakers a lot more. I think at speed you can hear them better and it's nice not giving space away in the saddle bags. . . My. 02. . . . Stuart.

bigchuck · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2017, 02:30:42 PM »

Lowers and/or tour pac. Lid speakers sound great in the garage. I also would never ever waste money on moco junk speakers. I can't believe the number of people who have to keep replacing factory speakers then think adding more of them is a good idea.

Cvostu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2017, 08:04:41 PM »

I have focal kcr165 all around. . With a 600 watt arc audio amp. . Never any issues. Loud as can be. . And I don't blow up any speakers. . .

bigchuck · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2017, 08:23:15 PM »

Quote from: cvostu on February 15, 2017, 08:04:41 PM

I have focal kcr165 all around. . With a 600 watt arc audio amp. . Never any issues. Loud as can be. . And I don't blow up any speakers. . .

Focals are an excellent choice except for lids. The way they are made allows water to run through them and into your saddlebags. Unless they make a water tight version that I'm not aware of. Hybrid Audio is a good choice for lids. Less chance of water leaking into saddlebags. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Focal otherwise .

Supershooter · « **Reply #15 on:** February 15, 2017, 09:33:12 PM »

I'd prefer a cost effect way to add the sound, without reducing storage space, but if saddle bag speakers are a better option I would put them in. I hope that someday I'll I be able to put a solo seat on it, and wonder if I'm better off with tour pak speakers that detach or saddle bag speakers...
I haven't looked into aftermarket speakers at all yet, I'm most interested in thoughts on placement at this point. It makes sense to me that there are probably better aftermarket options than what the moco offers. I'd like to make a decision on placement then brand.

Supershooter

SDCVO · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2017, 10:38:12 PM »

I went with Arc 600 series amp and Focals in the fairing and lowers and Fosgate amp and Arc 692's in the lids. Were a ff helmet, CFR mufflers and sound is crazy loud and crisp. I have always listened to my music very loud on my bikes (see ff helmet and CFR exhaust..) and was blowing factory stage 2 speakers left and right not to mention distortion. This setup I can't go over 3/4 volume and zero distortion. I use a solo seat.

Cvostu · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2017, 01:42:23 AM »

What ever you do.... Don't do it with harley junk audio. . There's so much better to be had in the after market. . . . Stuart.

SDCVO · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2017, 10:42:25 PM »

Quote from: cvostu on February 16, 2017, 01:42:23 AM

What ever you do.... Don't do it with harley junk audio. . There's so much better to be had in the after market. . . . Stuart.

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Supershooter · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2017, 10:13:23 AM »

Went to the dealer yesterday to gather info, and got sticker shock. Does anybody have experience with Hogtunes saddle bag speakers?
Supershooter

SDCVO · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2017, 01:25:53 PM »

Quote from: Supershooter on February 19, 2017, 10:13:23 AM

Went to the dealer yesterday to gather info, and got sticker shock. Does anybody have experience with Hogtunes saddle bag speakers?
Supershooter

Not in the same universe as Focals

Cvostu · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2017, 06:14:34 PM »

I had hybrid audio in the bags. Great choice and won't leak. . The focals will leak. I promise. The shock will go away when you quit talking to the dealer. . That's a bad call. . Stuart

Supershooter · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2017, 10:08:04 PM »

Went to a different dealer on Wednesday, the parts guy there said to use JM Audio parts /Rokker amp,and Fairing speakers, and he took me out to listen to his bike. It seemed fine, he encouraged me to only replace the speakers in the fairing and there wouldn't be any reason to add TP or saddle bag speakers, thoughts???
Supershooter

Glenncarp · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2017, 10:54:51 PM »

Quote from: Supershooter on February 23, 2017, 10:08:04 PM

Went to a different dealer on Wednesday, the parts guy there said to use JM Audio parts /Rokker amp,and Fairing speakers, and he took me out to listen to his bike. It seemed fine, he encouraged me to only replace the speakers in the fairing and there wouldn't be any reason to add TP or saddle bag speakers, thoughts???
Supershooter

Hmm, I say you can never go wrong with more speakers if the are powered correctly. My 16 SERGU has speakers on the tour pack and it almost sounds like surround sound, even with only the stage I, this is the best sounding system I have had on any bike I've owned or heard for that matter. I spent over $3K on stereo upgrade on my '11 SERGU and it dint sound half as good as the stock on new bike. Sometimes loud does not equal better. I have had Bose systems in last three vehicles I have owned, they take the engineering of cabin and build the system. You can't take the system out of one vehicle and install it in a different make our modle and get same sound, I'm starting to believe the same is true with HD

SDCVO · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2017, 11:13:26 PM »

Quote from: Supershooter on February 23, 2017, 10:08:04 PM

Went to a different dealer on Wednesday, the parts guy there said to use JM Audio parts /Rokker amp,and Fairing speakers, and he took me out to listen to his bike. It seemed fine, he encouraged me to only replace the speakers in the fairing and there wouldn't be any reason to add TP or saddle bag speakers, thoughts???
Supershooter

I have always heard about how you can't hear the rear speakers at speed but last weekend I was on the freeway when my rear speakers stopped working (bad amp) and I certainly could hear it and I have speakers in the fairing as well as the lowers. IMHO the rear saddlebag speakers work great with the right setup.

rzrpz7 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 25, 2017, 04:05:27 AM »

I have the 2013 Road King CVO. It came stock with 4 speakers and an IPod with 200 watt amp. Sound was good until I upgraded my pipes to D&D 2 into 1 so I had to upgrade the sound system too. stock was 2 saddlebag led speakers and 2 lower fairing speakers. I added 2 more speakers on the inside of the saddlebags and changed to a Rockford amp. Can hear the music fine now but I lost over half my saddle bag space. My next step is to get a tour pak to replace the space I lost. A good amp and better quality speakers like Kickers will make world of difference.

Supershooter · « **Reply #26 on:** April 25, 2017, 10:23:48 PM »

The local dealer suggested J&M speakers and amp, since they are tested and designed to be used in mc. When life slows down I'll get them switched out.

Supershooter

Trashcan · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2017, 10:07:25 PM »

On my 2012 Ultra Limited I put in the J&M 4 channel amp and upgraded the fairing speakers. My plan was to add speakers to the lowers later. The the speakers in the Batwing and the amp was all I needed. I could rock out to my Tunes as loud as I wanted with no distortion doing 80 down the freeway with some loud ass pipes. When I got my 2016 Street Glide CVO earlier this year..... I was extremely disappointed with this new Boom audio!

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