Topic: Truck Lite LED Install Issue (Read 10767 times)

Jenady · « **on:** September 06, 2012, 11:21:53 AM »

A while back I received and installed Truck Lite Phase 7 LED headlight and passing lights from Discount Fleet Supply. There are plenty of posts about their quality and about installation. I experienced a problem I have not seen on the Forum. The left passing lights did not work. The original light worked fine in the same plug.

I contacted Discount Fleet Supply and explained. They sent out a replacement, no questions asked. They did mention that mine was the first light that anyone had problems with.

I received and installed the replacement. It failed to work. I plugged it into the right side and it worked. I plugged the right side bulb in the left plug. It did not work.

So the left plug is obviously the problem but the stock light worked fine. Then it dawned on me. The stock bulb does not care about the polarity of the plug. But LED's are different technology and maybe they do care about polarity. Then I finally noticed that the ground pin in the plug did match the ground pin from the light. I reversed the pins in the plug and all is good.

The moral of the story is, if you trouble with LED installation do not assume MOCO configures their plugs correctly.

BigLew55 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2012, 12:31:02 PM »

Quote from: Jenady on September 06, 2012, 11:21:53 AM

A while back I received and installed Truck Lite Phase 7 LED headlight and passing lights from Discount Fleet Supply. There are plenty of posts about their quality and about installation. I experienced a problem I have not seen on the Forum. The left passing lights did not work. The original light worked fine in the same plug.

I contacted Discount Fleet Supply and explained. They sent out a replacement, no questions asked. They did mention that mine was the first light that anyone had problems with.

I received and installed the replacement. It failed to work. I plugged it into the right side and it worked. I plugged the right side bulb in the left plug. It did not work.

So the left plug is obviously the problem but the stock light worked fine. Then it dawned on me. The stock bulb does not care about the polarity of the plug. But LED's are different technology and maybe they do care about polarity. Then I finally noticed that the ground pin in the plug did match the ground pin from the light. I reversed the pins in the plug and all is good.

The moral of the story is, if you trouble with LED installation do not assume MOCO configures their plugs correctly.

Makes sense about the polarity as they are a Light Emmitting Diode. Diodes are dependant on polarity to function, or not. Interesting post!

ultrafxr · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2012, 01:02:00 PM »

Quote from: Jenady on September 06, 2012, 11:21:53 AM

The moral of the story is, if you trouble with LED installation do not assume MOCO configures their plugs correctly.

I assume that the MOCO doesn't do much of anything correctly and I have yet to be disappointed.

CVO Jack · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2012, 01:36:29 PM »

I'm happy to hear you got that passing lamp to work... thanx for the heads up!

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2012, 03:17:31 PM »

They worked fine on my '07 Ultra when installed a few months ago. Glad you figured it out. They work great together!

CVO Willy · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2012, 01:12:09 PM »

Quote from: Eagle eye on September 06, 2012, 03:17:31 PM

They worked fine on my '07 Ultra when installed a few months ago. Glad you figured it out. They work great together!

I had a question for you Eagle eye, was there a reason that you didn't choose to go with the passing lamp LED also? How do you like the Head Lamp change out. Also is the color different that the HD or other version LED lamps. It describes them as, •Pure white light output is closer to the color temperature of daylight, dramatically improving light projection distance and overall visibility with a bright, crisp output I have been really curious about this. I know the other LED lights seem to have a blue hint of color to them.

Thanks

CVO Willy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2012, 01:14:05 PM »

Quote from: Jenady on September 06, 2012, 11:21:53 AM

A while back I received and installed Truck Lite Phase 7 LED headlight and passing lights from Discount Fleet Supply. There are plenty of posts about their quality and about installation. I experienced a problem I have not seen on the Forum. The left passing lights did not work. The original light worked fine in the same plug.

I contacted Discount Fleet Supply and explained. They sent out a replacement, no questions asked. They did mention that mine was the first light that anyone had problems with.

I received and installed the replacement. It failed to work. I plugged it into the right side and it worked. I plugged the right side bulb in the left plug. It did not work.

So the left plug is obviously the problem but the stock light worked fine. Then it dawned on me. The stock bulb does not care about the polarity of the plug. But LED's are different technology and maybe they do care about polarity. Then I finally noticed that the ground pin in the plug did match the ground pin from the light. I reversed the pins in the plug and all is good.

The moral of the story is, if you trouble with LED installation do not assume MOCO configures their plugs correctly.

Jenady,

Did you have any problem with any adaptation with the Headlight or the Passing Lamps in your installation?

Thanks

Jenady · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2012, 04:08:59 PM »

Willy,

No, other than the wiring issue it went very smoothly. Everything is plug and play.

CVO Willy · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2012, 07:34:38 PM »

Quote from: Jenady on September 07, 2012, 04:08:59 PM

Willy,

No, other than the wiring issue it went very smoothly. Everything is plug and play.

Thank You..................................

Mr John DEUFF · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2012, 12:10:33 PM »

And which ring did you install around the lights? Have you got picture of the new lights mounted and lighted?

CVO Jack · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2012, 12:53:16 PM »

I used the hd frenched trim rings

CVO Jack · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2012, 12:54:52 PM »

pic's

CVO Jack · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2012, 12:57:39 PM »

side view

Fired00d · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2012, 01:20:36 PM »

Quote from: CVO Jack on September 08, 2012, 12:53:16 PM

I used the hd frenched trim rings

Thanks for those pics... they are the exact trim rings I have and gives me an idea how the lights would look with them.

With the bulbs extended out further do they still seal up to prevent excessive moisture from entering into the fairing?

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

CVO Jack · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2012, 01:28:13 PM »

No worries in regards to water entering the fairing... FYI I paid $382 for both the headlamp and passing lamps .. Free shipping and no tax...

Fired00d · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2012, 01:31:46 PM »

Quote from: CVO Jack on September 08, 2012, 01:28:13 PM

No worries in regards to water entering the fairing... FYI I paid $382 for both the headlamp and passing lamps .. Free shipping and no tax...

Thanks.

You used the following link/discount, correct?

http://www.discountfleetsupply.com/tlc27270c-3set.html enter Hdled5 in the coupon code

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

CVO Jack · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2012, 01:54:58 PM »

Yes that's the correct link :-)

Mr John DEUFF · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2012, 01:56:29 PM »

Thanks for the pictures, nice improvement

Here in France for the moment it is not allowed but one day I'm sure I'll have one of this on my bike!

Fired00d · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2012, 02:03:55 PM »

Quote from: CVO Jack on September 08, 2012, 01:54:58 PM

Yes that's the correct link :-)

Thanks... I need to pull the trigger and get these on order.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

bisounours · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2012, 02:30:52 PM »

Quote from: Mr John DEUFF on September 08, 2012, 01:56:29 PM

Thanks for the pictures, nice improvement Here in France for the moment it is not allowed but one day I'm sure I'll have one of this on my bike!

I've on my bike, John

Mr John DEUFF · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2012, 03:27:46 PM »

The full set? Would you recommend them, do they worth the price?

CVO Jack · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2012, 04:03:50 PM »

Best up grade I ever did ! I also installed the hd passing lamp switch so my brights and passing lamps stay on together which was about $25 at hd. If you install the switch do NOT follow the direction with switch and remove the outer fairing... You can install the switch on the right side of the switch dash by removing the two screws on each side..

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2012, 06:12:59 PM »

Quote from: CVO Willy on September 07, 2012, 01:12:09 PM

I had a question for you Eagle eye, was there a reason that you didn't choose to go with the passing lamp LED also? How do you like the Head Lamp change out. Also is the color different that the HD or other version LED lamps. It describes them as, •Pure white light output is closer to the color temperature of daylight, dramatically improving light projection distance and overall visibility with a bright, crisp output I have been really curious about this. I know the other LED lights seem to have a blue hint of color to them.

Thanks

The picture on my page is old. I do have the LED driving lights now. They do have a hint of blue, but not real obvious. More white than blue. Also the Frenched trim ring. Looks much better not having the headlight stick out.

A quick question about the harness for the driving lights. When I try to take off the faring to install the one I have, I can't seem to get it to release at the bottom. Is there another screw or two that I'm not seeing? I'd like to install this device. I have the CVO auxillary manual and the regular owners manual and neither of them shows any detail about removing the faring. I don't want to break anything forcing it off,, so thought I'd ask...

I'm sure it's a simple solution, but it's just not obvious to me at this time.

freshkeg · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2012, 06:19:24 PM »

Has anyone compared the truck light LED's to the Harley ones as far as brightness and lighting up the road? Thanks.

SteveFLHTK · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2012, 06:49:00 PM »

Quote from: Eagle eye on September 08, 2012, 06:12:59 PM

A quick question about the harness for the driving lights. When I try to take off the faring to install the one I have, I can't seem to get it to release at the bottom. Is there another screw or two that I'm not seeing? I'd like to install this device. I have the CVO auxillary manual and the regular owners manual and neither of them shows any detail about removing the faring. I don't want to break anything forcing it off,, so thought I'd ask... I'm sure it's a simple solution, but it's just not obvious to me at this time.

Did you take out all 4 screws? There are 2 (one on each side) kind of hidden towards the bottom.

CVO Jack · « **Reply #25 on:** September 08, 2012, 06:58:34 PM »

Under your ignition switch is your switch cover with your cruise , passing lamp and speaker switches ... The two screws one on each side with loosen that cover just enough to reach under the right side ( brake side ) to reach the passing lamp harness.... Un plug the harness and the new hardness with fit between the two connection ( one male the other female ) if you can,t see it , it may be attached with a hd hook the you can bend out to pull it down... I can take a pic Monday and post it if needed?

CVO Jack · « **Reply #26 on:** September 10, 2012, 02:49:50 PM »

switch cover

CVO Jack · « **Reply #27 on:** September 10, 2012, 02:51:13 PM »

passing lamp and headlight switch pulled out with new HD jumper wire in-line

SciFiGuy · « **Reply #28 on:** September 10, 2012, 02:56:23 PM »

Thanks for the link and discount code.

Just placed my order for the headlight only and came out to $217.31 a bargain in my opinion considering the HD alternative.

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #29 on:** September 10, 2012, 02:59:13 PM »

Quote from: CVO Jack on September 10, 2012, 02:51:13 PM

passing lamp and headlight switch pulled out with new HD jumper wire in-line

This is great information! So I need not remove the faring at all...seems like a lot more work, than this way. I'll get this done tonight! Thanks Jack, I appreciate the pictures and your effort posting them.

CVO Jack · « **Reply #30 on:** September 10, 2012, 03:08:14 PM »

I did NOT remove the outer fairing... just turn the bars to left and you will see a hd hook with a loom in it... open the hook and just pull out the loom.... connect the jump loom in betwen and your good to go.... if you can't see or reach the loom you may have to remove the two screws on the cover which gives you a little more room even with the ignition switch not removed.... Good luck, Jax

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #31 on:** September 10, 2012, 03:10:03 PM »

Quote from: CVO Jack on September 10, 2012, 03:08:14 PM

I did NOT remove the outer fairing... just turn the bars to left and you will see a hd hook with a loom in it... open the hook and just pull out the loom.... connect the jump loom in betwen and your good to go.... if you can't see or reach the loom you may have to remove the two screws on the cover which gives you a little more room even with the ignition switch not removed.... Good luck, Jax

Got it! Thanks Jax!

efrbc1 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:39:34 PM »

Just installed mine last night. Had the same "wiring" issue so thanks for the info about correcting the wires. Saved me a lot of headache and time. Ha anyone had to adjust their headlight after the install? I have not had a chance to ride with the new lights yet so I don't know how they look yet but curious if any adjustment (and what the proper aiming technique is) is necessary.

Chris

1sharprdkg · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2012, 04:56:41 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on September 08, 2012, 01:31:46 PM

Thanks. You used the following link/discount, correct?

http://www.discountfleetsupply.com/tlc27270c-3set.html enter Hdled5 in the coupon code

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Just used this link for Discount Fleet Supply and entered coupon code above and received 5% discount on there three light set of Phase7 headlight and aux lights. Total cost was $389.49 with free shipping and no sales tax. Site shows price of the set at $409.99, coupon took off $20.50. Was happy but kind of surprised the code still worked. Just in case I'm not the last guy to upgrade my lights!lol

09fltrse3 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 18, 2012, 01:53:26 AM »

Quote from: freshkeg on September 08, 2012, 06:19:24 PM

Has anyone compared the truck light LED's to the Harley ones as far as brightness and lighting up the road? Thanks.

Here are a couple of reviews of LED lights. I'm getting the Phase 7 led for my old roadking.

Phase 6 vs
http://theroadhawgs.com/uploads/Review_LED_Headlights__1_.pdf

Phase 7 vs
http://bogiesreviews.webs.com/Review%20-%20Phase%207%20LED%20Headlights%20&%20Passing%20Lamps.pdf

And Truck light propaganda
http://www.truck-lite.com/wcsstore/OnTheRoad/2012_NewProduct_Supplement.pdf

nevadabob · « **Reply #35 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:16:19 AM »

P7 review attached was great for and better understanding of the differences in lights. thank you

Dirtman09 · « **Reply #36 on:** November 30, 2012, 08:01:54 PM »

I just installed the 7 truck head light put have a problem.
I know I saw something on here about it but can not find it now that I need it
My garage door opener does not work? What did I forget to do surely there is a way to make it work like before

rbaker · « **Reply #37 on:** December 01, 2012, 07:06:04 AM »

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53078.0;all

you will find the part number for the cable you need in this thread.

Richard

Dirtman09 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 01, 2012, 02:50:18 PM »

Ok I went and got wire harness 70423-98 but does not work
The plugs will not plus to plugs from HD light and go to one plug
This harness is to go from one to two

rbaker · « **Reply #39 on:** December 02, 2012, 06:32:00 PM »

Quote from: Dirtman09 on December 01, 2012, 02:50:18 PM

Ok I went and got wire harness 70423-98 but does not work
The plugs will not plus to plugs from HD light and go to one plug
This harness is to go from one to two

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53078.0;attach=227261

Page one...item 5 says 71628-04 is part number for 2006 thru 2010 UCSE

to make the Garage Door opener AND the Cigar Lighter to work....

richard

Dirtman09 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 02, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »

Ok I worked it out
I got it working with splicing in the plug after the spliter plug
Now garage door opener works just fine

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #41 on:** December 03, 2012, 06:27:51 PM »

Glad to hear it! All my bikes will have LED lighting from now on.
All the lights on my bike are now converted. Folks that have been riding with me for a while say it really stands out compared to before. Works for me.

mitch.smith · « **Reply #42 on:** December 04, 2012, 10:54:49 AM »

Quote from: Jenady on September 06, 2012, 11:21:53 AM

A while back I received and installed Truck Lite Phase 7 LED headlight and passing lights from Discount Fleet Supply. There are plenty of posts about their quality and about installation. I experienced a problem I have not seen on the Forum. The left passing lights did not work. The original light worked fine in the same plug.

I contacted Discount Fleet Supply and explained. They sent out a replacement, no questions asked. They did mention that mine was the first light that anyone had problems with.

I received and installed the replacement. It failed to work. I plugged it into the right side and it worked. I plugged the right side bulb in the left plug. It did not work.

So the left plug is obviously the problem but the stock light worked fine. Then it dawned on me. The stock bulb does not care about the polarity of the plug. But LED's are different technology and maybe they do care about polarity. Then I finally noticed that the ground pin in the plug did match the ground pin from the light. I reversed the pins in the plug and all is good.

The moral of the story is, if you trouble with LED installation do not assume MOCO configures their plugs correctly.

I did the same dang thing with the right Passing Lamp. After getting the 2nd one it would not work then it dawned on me to check the simple + and - and it was reversed!

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