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[blacktop]

Looks as though VHC is new for this year. as well as a rain mode.

[CVODON]

Not sure how Hold Control will work on the Bikes but wifes new car has it and it is GREAT. Stop at a light or stop sign, take your foot off the brake and then just apply throttle to drive away when your ready. I like it.

[grc]

When you release the brake, do the stop lights go out?  To me that would be a deal breaker.  I make sure my brake lights are on the whole time I'm sitting still in a vulnerable situation.  In fact when someone is coming up behind me at a stop light, I flash my brake lights just to make sure they see me.  Being clobbered from behind while sitting at a stop once in my past, I'm not crazy about having it happen again.  I'm getting too old, and it takes a lot longer to recover from injuries.

Jerry

[skratch]

i agree with you.  it's only been about 5 months since i got rear ended, and i'm still paranoid about people coming up behind me.  hell, at this point, i'm paranoid about people coming at me from all directions    i swear it looks like they aren't going to stop at the intersection and i'm ready to pull some type of evasive maneuver.  then they stop and my adrenaline settles down.

as far as the vhc goes, nothing says you have to take your hand/foot off the brake.  if it's anything like the one in my truck, it won't hold forever, just for a second or two until you get started.  so for the bike, it seems like it'll be good long enough until you can start rolling on the throttle and releasing the clutch, just keeping you from rolling backwards a little.

[Finster101]

Ah yes, another piece of technology so people don't really have to learn how to ride.

[Fired00d]

Ah yes, another piece of technology so people don't really have to learn how to ride.

Kinda what I was thinking... when I first learned how to drive/ride a manual shift vehicle I was taught to figure out/find the clutch friction point.... slowly let out the clutch as you hold the brake until it reaches the friction point then accelerate. Easy peasy… if a person can't do that then IMO manual transmission vehicles may not be for them.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[CVODON]

Well before we ever used this feature I had the wife stand behind the car. I drove down the drive, stopped and took my foot off the brake. Brake lights did not go out until I applied throttle. Verified twice. Pretty slick, they definitely stay on until you give it throttle or touch the brake pedal again.
It also has Launch Control (Kind of like a Drag Car Trans Brake) You enable Launch control with button, when indicator lights on dash you put foot on brake which arms it and lay throttle on floor. Goes to pre-determined RPM and holds it until you release the brake. Not sure I'll ever use it, but it works pretty smooth. Car does not hold against brakes like when you did a burn-out in your dads 68 Caprice, The car just revs like neutral, same as a trans brake in a Drag Car. Apparently holding the brake pedal is a safety feature in case the electronic unit were to fail.

[Ironhorse]

Ah yes, another piece of technology so people don't really have to learn how to ride.

Reminds me of a group ride I went on years ago. They purposely avoided hills because some folks didn’t like them. I just shook my head.

[spook120]

Have those features on my BMW GSA. Rarely use the hill control.  Only took HD how many years to implement what's standard on most other brands?  Better late than never I guess.

[Twolanerider]

When you release the brake, do the stop lights go out?  To me that would be a deal breaker.  I make sure my brake lights are on the whole time I'm sitting still in a vulnerable situation.  In fact when someone is coming up behind me at a stop light, I flash my brake lights just to make sure they see me.  Being clobbered from behind while sitting at a stop once in my past, I'm not crazy about having it happen again.  I'm getting too old, and it takes a lot longer to recover from injuries.

Jerry

Ditto.  Whenever possible I also stop far enough behind the car in front of me that I can dash forward between vehicles if necessary if I see someone coming that I don't think will get stopped.

[Twolanerider]

Kinda what I was thinking... when I first learned how to drive/ride a manual shift vehicle I was taught to figure out/find the clutch friction point.... slowly let out the clutch as you hold the brake until it reaches the friction point then accelerate. Easy peasy… if a person can't do that then IMO manual transmission vehicles may not be for them.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

That's asking a lot Gary.  I'm around kids all day long that don't know what a busy signal is and will never drive a stick  !

[Fired00d]

That's asking a lot Gary.  I'm around kids all day long that don't know what a busy signal is and will never drive a stick  !

And they don't know how to write in cursive.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[rayson56]

Ever get one to count your change back properly? I like messing with em and throw a dollar or a few pennies their way to get an even amount of change back. Most just stand there for a minute with their bare faces hanging out totally confused. lol

[ACfixer]

Ah yes, another piece of technology so people don't really have to learn how to ride.

Yeah I was kind of scratching my head on this one too. Maybe I stumbled on to some secret technique, so I'll share it... Apply braking pressure until the clutch starts to engage. 

[BostonboyDH]

And they don't know how to write in cursive.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

   Ok you got me on that one Dood...    LOL  Lucky I got Google