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Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« on: July 18, 2005, 01:49:30 AM »

I want to know if anyone else has put a high lift cam in a 103 and if so, does it make more noise?  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=shocked2.gif]I put a S&S 570 Gear drive cam in my 05' SEEG and when engine is warm it makes a bit more noise. Although when cold its quite as can be which makes me think its probably normal. H-D mechanic that installed it says it doesn't sound WRONG but has never done that cam on a 103 prior to mine. Just looking for some of your expert experiences! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2005, 01:54:09 AM »

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I want to know if anyone else has put a high lift cam in a 103 and if so, does it make more noise?  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=shocked2.gif]I put a S&S 570 Gear drive cam in my 05' SEEG and when engine is warm it makes a bit more noise. Although when cold its quite as can be which makes me think its probably normal. H-D mechanic that installed it says it doesn't sound WRONG but has never done that cam on a 103 prior to mine. Just looking for some of your expert experiences! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


This is going to sound like a dumb question Bling; but that never really stopped me.  With the change is it really markedly louder or it is just a lot different?  Or is it both ?
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 10:40:35 AM »

TLR,
 It's definitely both! [smiley=confused.gif] I've listened to some of my CVO ridin buddies bikes and don't hardly hear anything!
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2005, 10:57:31 AM »

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I want to know if anyone else has put a high lift cam in a 103 and if so, does it make more noise?  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=shocked2.gif]I put a S&S 570 Gear drive cam in my 05' SEEG and when engine is warm it makes a bit more noise. Although when cold its quite as can be which makes me think its probably normal. H-D mechanic that installed it says it doesn't sound WRONG but has never done that cam on a 103 prior to mine. Just looking for some of your expert experiences! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Is it a clicking noise, or a gear noise?  It is not uncommon to hear more noise with high lift cams, especially if the opening and closing ramps are radically different than stock.  Some cams are ground for very fast ramps, which increases the flow rate but bangs the valves open and closed much harder. The faster you close the valve, the more noise you can expect.  Also, gear drives can create additional noise, depending on how well the straight-cut gears mesh, and the noise can vary as the engine heats up or cools down.

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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2005, 04:47:16 PM »

grc just gave you a very good (and real) answer.  Gear driven cams make more noise than chain drive.....especially when the motor gets hot.  I suspect, from what you've described, it's normal.
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2005, 05:04:08 PM »

Yeah, 'er 'uh, HD-Bling,
 JCZ is correct.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] That's the fleas that come with the dog.  Noise increases with any cam modification.  Keep it wound tight, and you won't hear cam noise! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Ride Hard!  Later--HUBBARD
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2005, 05:25:21 PM »

Another possible solution could be to get a good set of Hogtunes speakers and then just crank up music.  Louder pipes might help fix the problem too  [smiley=7.gif] [smiley=beerchug.gif]
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2005, 07:53:20 PM »

Thanks All,
   I feel better know! [smiley=laugh.gif] Hog tunes NOT necessary I've installed Phoenix Gold Pro series with built in crossovers! [smiley=7.gif] Very pleased!
   I do hear the wind of the gear drive but there is also a slight tickin! Only at an Idle though.
  Thanks Again! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2005, 09:05:53 PM »

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Thanks All,
    I feel better know! [smiley=laugh.gif] Hog tunes NOT necessary I've installed Phoenix Gold Pro series with built in crossovers! [smiley=7.gif] Very pleased!
    I do hear the wind of the gear drive but there is also a slight tickin! Only at an Idle though.
   Thanks Again! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]



Hell, is that all?  Bling you don't have to start worrying till you start hearing the noises that aren't really there.........  [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif]     [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2005, 11:07:58 PM »

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Thanks All,
    I feel better know! [smiley=laugh.gif] Hog tunes NOT necessary I've installed Phoenix Gold Pro series with built in crossovers! [smiley=7.gif] Very pleased!
    I do hear the wind of the gear drive but there is also a slight tickin! Only at an Idle though.
   Thanks Again! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]


Did they change the lifters?????? If not there is your reason for the tick tick tick!

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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2005, 03:52:59 PM »

MUST BE NICE TO HAVE A QUIET MOTOR...   MINES SO DAMN LOUD ON THE TOP END THAT NOW I YELL ALL THE TIME, CAN'T HEAR MY EXHUAST, AND HAD TO BUY HOGTUNES JUST TO HEAR 'EM!    The dealer says "that's normal for a 103"   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2005, 05:52:46 PM »

The dealer lies!!!!!!

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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2005, 08:47:41 PM »

i put gear drive cams in my deuce and they are noiseier. the stock set up with cam chain riding on chain tensioner shoes is nice and quiet but a real weak link in regards to wear. i think they can wear out anywhere from 20-30 thou. miles. good luck
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2005, 10:01:15 PM »

Just got 30K on my SEEG,  guess I need to be checking the tensioners, huh?   [smiley=nervous.gif]  spyder
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Re: Higher Lift Cam Noise?
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2005, 11:57:14 PM »

that seems to be the concensus. the subject has been talked about here before. my tensioners were worn beyond spec at 25000 miles but some riders go longer. as you know most riders dont ride their bikes very many miles so its not an issue for most. its not that big of a deal as they are easily accessable to change out.
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