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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« on: October 22, 2005, 12:33:30 AM »

This was the first one of these my dealer had installed
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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2005, 12:33:58 AM »

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2005, 12:34:27 AM »

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2005, 12:34:51 AM »

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2005, 12:35:09 AM »

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2005, 12:51:43 AM »

I am really starting to like my new HID headlamp.
I think I finally have it adjusted just right and seems like I am riding under a full moon
Everyone, OK most that have rode with me at night makes a comment about the light like:
"Wow that light is sure white"
"I will follow you as you have a great headlight"

To top it off today i received in the US Mail a note from my HD dealer that they issued me a $100 credit. Note reads:

" I just wanted to let you know that I have creditied your account for $100 towards labor for the HID headlamp kit you had installed. We have just learned more information regarding a labor promotion that Harley-Davidson is doing and the kit we installed was an eligible part number. If you have any questions, please feel free to call me at ...-.... and thank you for your business."

Sincerely

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Gawd I love deals, hmmm what should I do with the C-Note?   any ideas?
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Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2005, 09:47:02 PM »

In one or two other threads I'd mentioned I'd be getting the H-D High Intensity Discharge headlamp installed during my 10,000 mile service.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2005, 09:47:58 PM »


This one is with the headlight and spots on in the daylight.  You can see the yellow color of the spots in comparison to the headlight in this photo . . .


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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2005, 09:48:46 PM »


This one is at night with no flash . . .


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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2005, 09:49:34 PM »


This one is with a flash.  Again, just pointing out the color difference . . .

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2005, 09:50:22 PM »


This is a photo of the pattern of the low-beam only (no spots).
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2005, 09:51:27 PM »


This one is of the hi-beam pattern.  Note the yellow color of the hi-beam which is not HID and the pattern which is focused in the center and not very wide like the low beam . . .


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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2005, 09:52:23 PM »


Finally, this one is of the low-beam and spots.  With the way I have my spots aimed, this is the way the light really works the best . . .


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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2005, 10:33:23 PM »

Thanks for the great review of the new HID headlight, Brian.  You really ought to write for Car & Driver or HOTBIKE or one of those rags that have the roadtests/reviews.  Very through.....the bottom line was when you said it just didn't 'knock your socks off' as you'd hoped it would.  That's a lot of jingle for anything less than a great improvement, but I guess they can't put aircraft landing lights on the public highways, huh?    :-/  spyder
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2005, 10:49:58 PM »


You're welcome, Spyder!
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2005, 12:28:54 PM »

$$$ [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2005, 12:34:26 PM »

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$$$ [smiley=nixweiss.gif]


Duane, the cheapest seems to be Chicago Harley for $419.96.  MSRP is $525.00.  One thing to note if you go to Chicago Harley's website to order this particular part is that either Chicago Harley or HD has a typo for the part number.  

HD on their website and in their literature shows it as an 04 part number (68094-04).  The part was released in 06 though.  But if you try 68094-04 at Chicago HD or Surdyke's online order sites the number doesn't work.  Make it an 06 part number, however, and you're good to go.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2005, 02:56:24 PM »

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HD on their website and in their literature shows it as an 04 part number (68094-04).
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2005, 04:06:25 PM »

The posted number is fouled up all over the place though Brian.  The P&A catalog shows 06, the HD website shows 04, the printed diagrams you posted that come with the kit show 04 and I've seen one other Harley publication that shows 06.  It's enough to give a guy a headache  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2005, 04:09:05 PM »

Just had a thought (yes, it happens).  From everyone's descriptions so far the one thing that seems agreed it on most is the wider and brighter pattern of the HID low beam.  That being so then an ideal application for these lights ought to be anyone who got one of the new Street Glides that come out of the box without spotlights.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2005, 04:15:48 PM »

Question:

I know the HID light puts out a broader beam L to R, but how much does it extend the forward distance?

Also, when on high beam, does the wide beam stay on?
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2005, 04:18:57 PM »

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Question:

I know the HID light puts out a broader beam L to R, but how much does it extend the forward distance?

Also, when on high beam, does the wide beam stay on?


CD, the HID low beam does illuminate all the time.  So you'll gain the wide bright light all the time and high beam will then throw more light farther down the road.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2005, 04:30:40 PM »

would this HID headlight fit other model harleys....like older softtails?   [smiley=nixweiss.gif] spyder
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2005, 04:56:09 PM »

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I know the HID light puts out a broader beam L to R, but how much does it extend the forward distance?

Also, when on high beam, does the wide beam stay on?

Crawdaddy, Don's right, the low beam stays illuminated when the brites are on, but, as I mentioned above, the brite light's beam is very cylindrical and quite biased toward the center of the pattern.  So, while it extends the forward distance well, it only does so in a straight ahead fashion and not very much to the sides.  I would have preferred a nice, wide pattern similar to the low beam, but it's not happening with this light.  It can be somewhat of an issue when negotiating corners.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2005, 04:57:28 PM »

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2005, 05:54:29 PM »

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Spyder, currently they only list applications for the Electra Glide and Road King models.


Retrofit outside of the stated fitments would probably be tough too.  Road Kings will have the nacelle to give room to hold the extra pieces and the Glides of course can do it in the fairing.  But the softails just have the headlight cone.  So not much extra space.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2005, 05:58:02 PM »

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2005, 09:26:40 PM »

I wanted to let everyone know about a deal that jeffj filled me in on in case anyone's considering one of these headlights.  Between Oct 7, 2005 and Jan 31, 2006, you can get $100 off of the installation cost when installed at your H-D dealer.  That's a (ballpark) 50% savings on the labor of this fairly labor intensive install!  Be sure to mention promotion #136 in case your dealer is not familiar with it.  Mine was not, but when I mentioned the promo number that jeffj supplied me with, they were able to look the promo up and give me a credit on my account!

Thanks to jeffj for saving me $100!!! [smiley=2vrolijk_21.gif]
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2005, 11:53:06 PM »

Great detail on the HID lamp. Thanks guys.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2005, 06:15:07 PM »

St. Paul (MN) H-D routinely runs ebay ads for the HID headlights, but usually around $445, so not quite as competive as Chicago H-D. They have a great on-line/ebay sales group, not as big as Chicago, but a bit more responsive.Part Numbers 68043-06 & 68094-06 were listed today, here's the link to all their ebay sales items: http://stores.ebay.com/St-Paul-Harley-Davidson-Buell_W0QQssPageNameZviQ3asibQ3astoreviewQQtZkm
AND THE LIGHT ITSELF: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-HID-Dual-Bulb-Headlamp-Kit-FLHT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35575QQitemZ4583607770QQtcZphoto
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2005, 09:07:25 PM »

Thanks people, this is why I love this place. The information on the light is great and very timely.
Thanks Again.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2006, 06:23:33 PM »

To all. The HID Headlight IS a great upgrade for either the '04-05 SEEG or the '06 SE Ultra!

JeffJ and 103ThunDer's
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2006, 09:18:18 PM »

Pana-guy, sounds like you got a heckuva good deal!  Unfortunately, my dealer never offers discounts on "things that go on a motorcycle," so I paid full boat for the light and it was not until jeffj's relentless pursuit of my $100 labor discount that I got that.  Nevertheless, I too think this is a good upgrade.  I haven't cut the (pressure) spring like the other member mentioned yet, but will before spring (season) rolls around.  It's fine the way it is, but a little more height would take the light from good to great.

Glad to hear the reviews were helpful and thanks for your comments as well!
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2006, 12:21:31 PM »

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2006, 12:54:02 PM »

Hi Guys,my 2 cents.

Having read all on here,and running Xenon on my cars, I decided to look at changing to HID lights.Before the purchase of these expensive items,I happened to see another motorcyle with xenon lights....or so I thought.

To cut a long story down to size the change that I made was to

H4 472UB 100/80 Watt 12v this is an of road bulb with a Blue finish,I also changed my 2 running light bulbs(35 watt) to 55 watt.

I think the cost of
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2006, 09:29:25 PM »

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Hi Guys,my 2 cents.

Having read all on here,and running Xenon on my cars, I decided to look at changing to HID lights.Before the purchase of these expensive items,I happened to see another motorcyle with xenon lights....or so I thought.

To cut a long story down to size the change that I made was to

[highlight]H4 472UB 100/80 Watt 12v [/highlight]this is an of road bulb with a Blue finish,I also changed my 2 running light bulbs(35 watt) to [highlight]55 watt.[/highlight]
I think the cost of
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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2006, 11:42:13 AM »

I do not know ,I brought them from a store in the UK. If you need some I am over in the US next week I can purchase them here , bring them over for you and send them in the Post.  No Problem...

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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2006, 12:17:57 PM »

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Hey JJ,
Can you buy these bulbs in the states?[highlight][/highlight]
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Take a look at:http://www.slickcar.com/light-bulbs.asp
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2006, 08:30:35 PM »

No-rain (et al), I got the Luminics Bulbs Hyper White 881 bulbs for the spots: http://www.luminicsbulbs.com/881_bulbs.php

I decided to stay with the 881s (27w) versus upgrading (?) to the 816s (50w) like some have reported success with.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2006, 09:01:39 PM »

103tHunDer,

I will be ordering these bulbs tonight. Thanks for posting this information for the group at large with HID headlights.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2006, 02:53:01 AM »

I think i'll try that bulb update when I get my bike back from the states, cheers john [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=banana.gif] [smiley=banana.gif]
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2006, 05:56:42 PM »

Nice, but, I dont want to spend 500+ bucks, what are the other options?
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2006, 03:20:10 PM »


A couple photographs of the Luminics bulbs lit up:

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2006, 03:21:11 PM »


As a rough gauge, I'd say they're about 60% less yellow than the stock bulbs.

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2006, 11:34:08 AM »

I thought my '06 came stock with the $500 HD lighting???, wtf did I miss here.
My headlight looks like the one in the link.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2006, 11:37:18 AM »

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I thought my '06 came stock with the $500 HD lighting???, wtf did I miss here.
My headlight looks like the one in the link.

You'd think it would have for the price they charged us for the bikes. I guess you could look at it as another opportunity to enrich the dealers and the stockholders!
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2006, 05:51:34 PM »

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I thought my '06 came stock with the $500 HD lighting???, wtf did I miss here.
My headlight looks like the one in the link.


Nope Mike.  It's the dual halogen that externally looks very much like the HID.  All that can be said for it is that it's a little better illuminating than was the stock light on the 05s.  But it's still nothing special.  I put it in the red bike and added better bulbs too.  At night I still like a road with plenty of traffic so I can use their lights; cause mine just ain't all that whoopee.
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2006, 09:59:18 PM »

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I thought my '06 came stock with the $500 HD lighting???, wtf did I miss here.
My headlight looks like the one in the link.

 After swapping out my stocker to the dual bulb (and hateing it) I looked into an HID retro kit. Works much better (brighter) and cheaper if you already have the dual bulb in you scooter.
 Got mine here; http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=33

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 After swapping out my stocker to the dual bulb (and hateing it) I looked into an HID retro kit. Works much better (brighter) and cheaper if you already have the dual bulb in you scooter.
 Got mine here; http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=33



That's the most intriguing alternative solution I've seen so far.  Entire dual HID kit for $200.00.  So any details worth sharing on the installation, reliability so far or effectiveness?  Very much interested.  Thanks.
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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2006, 11:33:15 AM »

Daniel http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ has some Stern words about HID replacement headlamps and lighting in general

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No its not a dual HID kit. You just replace the low beam bulb in the dual bulb. The high beam stays. I did the install in a few hours. Hardest part was getting the power wire under the tank back to the battery. Other then that its plug-n-play.
 I don't know for sure but I'd bet the bulb housing is the same one that HD uses for their HID. My beam patteren is very pronounced. Much like all the HIDs I've seen. The high beam, well if you have one of these lights you pretty much know it doesn't do much. I did swap the old low beam H11 bulb for the H9 low beam. Makes a difference.
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No its not a dual HID kit. You just replace the low beam bulb in the dual bulb. The high beam stays. I did the install in a few hours. Hardest part was getting the power wire under the tank back to the battery. Other then that its plug-n-play.
 I don't know for sure but I'd bet the bulb housing is the same one that HD uses for their HID. My beam patteren is very pronounced. Much like all the HIDs I've seen. The high beam, well if you have one of these lights you pretty much know it doesn't do much. I did swap the old low beam H11 bulb for the H9 low beam. Makes a difference.

Thanks.  I'd misread part of the mftr's website.  Even with with the H9 bulb I'm still very unimpressed with the high beam on these lights.  It's really a coin toss over whether the high beam or the low beam and spots actually helps you more.  It kinda sucks.

When you're in low beam mode and have only the HID light shining is it good enough to use in that mode by itself?  In high beam mode what's the comparison between the effect of the two bulbs down the road?
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2006, 11:43:05 AM »

The H11 is very easy to modify to fit in the H9 socket. Not that much better (55 watts verses 35) but what are ya gonna do? Actualy I only use the high beam now to activate the garage door opener. The low beam is alot brighter (IMO) I also put Silverstar 55 watters in the passing lights. They look yellow compaired to the HID low beam. When I put on the high beam it throws out a little further down the road but hardly worth it. I live in deer country and side to side lighting is more important to me then straight ahead.



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The H11 is very easy to modify to fit in the H9 socket. Not that much better (55 watts verses 35) but what are ya gonna do? Actualy I only use the high beam now to activate the garage door opener. The low beam is alot brighter (IMO) I also put Silverstar 55 watters in the passing lights. They look yellow compaired to the HID low beam. When I put on the high beam it throws out a little further down the road but hardly worth it. I live in deer country and side to side lighting is more important to me then straight ahead.





Thanks for pointing this kit out.  For the price difference between it and the HD HID it seems well worth giving a shot.  I'm going to have the tank off anyway sometime relatively soon so that'd be the ideal time for this task too.
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I ordered one of these http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=213 today - with discount, inc taxes and shipping it cost me
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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #55 on: November 25, 2006, 01:09:50 PM »

Well the kit arrived today - and I fitted it in about 30 minutes

Seems to work just fine although the spots (when selected) are now on - albeit dimly - on both Dip and Main Beam

This has got to be because of the solenoid, which moves the focus of light back and forth to give main beam and dip functionality, being wired into the main beam circuit

I'm gonna look into that tomorrow and may just run the spots off a separate feed through a relay

The HID light is very bright and seems to emit a nice tight pattern - I will ride later when the rain stops to see what oncoming traffic thinks of the aim.

The main beam/dip operation is fine and there is a cool sounding whine when the unit is starting up - this goes away when the lamp is up to operating temperature

The lamp fitted right into the original H4 holder with no problem - in fact it's a better fit than the original H4 lamp and the control module is sitting on top of the radio - I will secure it with cable ties tomorrow

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Well the kit arrived today - and I fitted it in about 30 minutes

Seems to work just fine although the spots (when selected) are now on - albeit dimly - on both Dip and Main Beam

This has got to be because of the solenoid, which moves the focus of light back and forth to give main beam and dip functionality, being wired into the main beam circuit

I'm gonna look into that tomorrow and may just run the spots off a separate feed through a relay

The HID light is very bright and seems to emit a nice tight pattern - I will ride later when the rain stops to see what oncoming traffic thinks of the aim.

The main beam/dip operation is fine and there is a cool sounding whine when the unit is starting up - this goes away when the lamp is up to operating temperature

The lamp fitted right into the original H4 holder with no problem - in fact it's a better fit than the original H4 lamp and the control module is sitting on top of the radio - I will secure it with cable ties tomorrow

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« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2006, 07:45:47 AM »

OK so I wasn't able to keep the magic post number for too long

The kit fitted very well and the lamp is very bright for sure but the beam, whilst broad, seems to lack distance (on Hi beam) and the illuminated area of the headlamp lens looks dark(er) at the bottom than a conventional lamp. Kinda difficult to photograph that of course.

I've got 3 pics and here's the first which shows what you get and how it hooks up
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« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2006, 07:58:01 AM »

Here's the second which shows one view of the actual light generating "bulb"

The cutaway section in the chrome shroud is on the underside when in use and this is supposed to change the amount of light that comes out for Hi/Low beam

There's a solenoid in the lamp housing which actually moves the glass envelope back and forth to alter the focal point and thus the beam pattern when reflected out the front of the headlamp

The cutout doesn't seem to be aligbned with the arc though so I'm not sure how much difference it actually makes

The guys who sell this kit profess to be very interested in feedback so I may well speak to them about this and I may try some mods if I can get hold of a spare shroud
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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2006, 08:05:34 AM »

and this is the third one showing the lamp from a different angle

It's been too darned wintry recently to do any serious night-time testing but the few rides I have done I have not been "flashed" by oncoming traffic - I guess that means I can adjust the beam up slightly...

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« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2006, 08:13:10 AM »

In that last photo you can see the bulbous section of the glass tube - that's where the arc strikes

You can also see it's not aligned with the cutout

Now whether that's how it should be or whether the cutout should allow a different proportion of the arc to shine through to give more light to the lower section of the beam I don't know but in the first post of this series I mentioned about the dark looking lower half of the headlamp lens - I just feel this would be improved if the cutout was in line with the arc

I will contact the (HiD) dealer and see what they say and advise accordingly

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Re: Harley HID Headlight Review and Photos
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2006, 10:35:19 AM »

See, now I know my wife is full of it when she says I'm addicted to this site.

I totally missed this thread for the past two months ;D

I do have the HD HID so I am covered but I sure miss the opportunity to chime in on something that I believe is a great addition to our bikes.

UK, thanks for posting your install and alternative to the spendy HD light.
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« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2006, 02:11:33 PM »

Hey Guys - I got a surprisingly quick response from the guy who is selling these upgrades - which is good, at least it shows he cares.

He knows about the "mis-aligned" cutout and basically it's a compromise between getting good Hi-beam throw and not dazzling the oncoming traffic with stray light out the bottom half of the headlamp on Lo-beam

He is working on a new design of shield with more cutout (= more light) for Hi-beam while retaining the sharp cutoff for Lo-beam

Because he was pleasantly surprised that a biker understood (a little) about lighting/lenses/reflectors etc (and because I advised him there was interest on this site) he is going to keep me in the loop.

I will advise on future developments as they happen (or, at least, when he tells me...)

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« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2006, 03:16:49 PM »

Thanks Dave for these news.
I'm interested by this solution and I'll wait the evolutions. :P

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2007, 08:54:04 AM »

Right, I'm going to seriously upgrade the lighting on this bike before it takes to the road. Regular readers may recall that I fitted the HD HID headlight to my last bike, and I've kept it to go on this one.  It isn't bad on dip, but main beam is a pathetic H8 35w, and of course when you switch to main beam, you lose the passing lamps, so on main beam you have the HID + 35w, instead of HID + TWO 35w!

The plan -

HID headlamp
replace the H8 35w with a blue H9 65w
replace the 35w H3 in each passing lamp with a blue H3 55w
have the passing lamps come on with main beam as well as dip.

As I see it there's plenty wiring and fuse capacity for that, but my only concern is the extra heat generated by the 65w H9 in the little main beam reflector.  Anyone else done the same conversion, and if so, any heat problems?

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« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2007, 06:43:40 PM »

Hi Jim, I've done pretty much what you are planning to do.

I ran a heavy wire from the battery (fused - natch) to a relay in the the headlamp area and also fed the driving lamps (with blue 55w H3) from that so they are on with both lo and hi beam (or off - of course)

The aftermarket HID is working fine and I adjusted it up slightly when I fitted deeper trim rings (Frenched?)

The headlamp wasn't filling the bottom of the deep trim ring - looked kinda naff...

Still don't get flashed (by oncoming traffic) too often so can't be too bad but I have noticed a few complaints when I am behind someone on the country roads - mind you I'm not behind them for too long...

I was looking at the other lighting thread (with the Bosch spots?) and I might have to give that a go - can never have too much light !!

I don't think the additional heat (from the 65w H9) is going to be an issue for you - the reflector will just throw it forward

I suppose you could run the headlamp loose (in the garage) and test the temp of the reflector with your hand - I don't think you would even feel it get warm let alone hot

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« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2007, 07:31:58 PM »

Hi Jim, I've done pretty much what you are planning to do.

Cool, Dave!  I was beginning to feel pretty lonely!  ;)

I ran a heavy wire from the battery (fused - natch) to a relay in the the headlamp area and also fed the driving lamps (with blue 55w H3) from that so they are on with both lo and hi beam (or off - of course)

I did it on my '03 Glide, but didn't run an extra wire - used a feed from main beam to operate the relay, and just used the normal feed for the passing lamps. They were just 35w standard bulbs though, not the 55w.

The aftermarket HID is working fine and I adjusted it up slightly when I fitted deeper trim rings (Frenched?)

Yes, the HD HID was fine on dip - but a 35w main beam?  I don't think so!

The headlamp wasn't filling the bottom of the deep trim ring - looked kinda naff...

Yes, again on my 03 I had the trim ring.  Didn't like the gaps, so have not had one since.

Still don't get flashed (by oncoming traffic) too often so can't be too bad but I have noticed a few complaints when I am behind someone on the country roads - mind you I'm not behind them for too long...


 ;D

I was looking at the other lighting thread (with the Bosch spots?) and I might have to give that a go - can never have too much light !!

I think the standard ones (at last this year we have the fluted reflector that the US bikes have, though still 35w H3) with the blue 55w bulbs are going to be as good as any - they look really white. And they look the part.

I don't think the additional heat (from the 65w H9) is going to be an issue for you - the reflector will just throw it forward

Hopefully!  As an aside, they really don't want you fitting an H9 in place of the H8!  ;)  You have to trim one of the 3 lugs on the bulb to get it to go in, and then the plug won't connect as the H9 has an extra key that has to be chiselled off!

I suppose you could run the headlamp loose (in the garage) and test the temp of the reflector with your hand - I don't think you would even feel it get warm let alone hot


Oh, they do get warm!  (try it with your passing lamps!) Hope that the v. small area of the main beam reflector can cope.  Might try it as you suggest though.

Are you planning on Spain this year?

Yup!  You?

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« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2007, 09:41:20 AM »

Sounds like you are on the right track Jim

See you in Fuengirola

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« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2007, 09:46:45 AM »

Sounds like you are on the right track Jim

See you in Fuengirola

Are you riding all the way or ferry to Bilabo/Santander

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« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2007, 03:10:37 PM »

Good evening , Dave and Jim,

Are you planning on ST TROPEZ for the HD Eurofestival the 10th till 13th May ?

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Good evening , Dave and Jim,

Are you planning on ST TROPEZ for the HD Eurofestival the 10th till 13th May ?

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Bonsoir Jaques!

Not unless I become rich between now and then, and am able to give up work! :-)   I'd LOVE to go - but I am 725km north of Dover!  But are you going to Fuengirola?

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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2007, 01:27:52 PM »

Bonsoir Jim,

I'll be not to Fuengirola.
It's 4 days in Fuengirola, 2 for go and 2 for back = 8 days.
Not enough time in June for this travel.

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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2007, 01:31:52 PM »

Bonsoir Jim,

I'll be not to Fuengirola.
It's 4 days in Fuengirola, 2 for go and 2 for back = 8 days.
Not enough time in June for this travel.

Jacques

That's a shame, Jacques - I was hoping to see you there.

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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2007, 01:38:25 PM »

"R/B Jester CUSE²
Previously, the delivery date was April 2007.
Started from the States the 9th January.
Arrival at the dealer the 14th February.
previous first miles : 17th February 2007, morning."

Hey Jacques, your bike is here!!!  :orange:  I didn't realise you had got it at last!   :drink: :drink: :drink: Did you post somewhere that it had arrived, and I missed it?  Are there photos somewhere on the site?  How is it to ride? (Your weather must be better than ours!)  Have you fitted all your accessories?

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Re: Spyder and others, got the HID headlight . . .
« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2007, 05:56:10 PM »

Hello Jim,

Yes, it's arrived and I ride a little bit with this.
 :huepfenpinkie: :huepfenpinkie: :huepfenpinkie: :huepfenpinkie:

For the pics, it's here :
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php/topic,11073.0/all.html
You have the story for the accessories but it's not finished.
I've not many free time and I've only 100 miles. The weather is better but this week end it's rainny :(
It's really a big pleasure to ride with this model. :thumbsup:
Now, I wait your news with TM and AT... ;)

 :beerchug: :beerchug: Jacques

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********2007 FLHTCUSE2 Red/Black**********
  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
2011 FLHXSE2, Stage1
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