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Thinking Of Trading
« on: March 23, 2019, 01:33:17 PM »

Looking for some opinions. I’m thinking of trading my 16 CVO Limited with 8600 miles for a new 19 SG CVO. I love my current ride but it’s a beast in the weight department and a little tall in the saddle. I know that I can remove the tour pack and change the seat to lower height to help. But the paint (grey/silver) really floats my boat. Dealer is willing to give my 25K for my bike and throw in a couple of goodies. What you do?

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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2019, 02:03:41 PM »

If it was me it would all depend on if I had a clear title to the 16, if I didn’t then I would want to know how much I’m rolling over in negative equity which is just another term for debt. That’s me though.


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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2019, 04:11:27 PM »

$25,000 is a good trade price but that also depends on what he is charging for the new bike. If it's MSRP then it's a crap deal.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2019, 05:29:57 PM »

Buying a recreational vehicle is usually a decision made on emotion and not financial sense. If you do the math you would probably decide it wasn't smart to pay tens of thousands of dollars just for a few less miles and new paint etc. Think if some shop said "I can take off your tour pak, put on a lower seat and spray it with grey paint for XYZ amount of dollars"....would you do it? Could that money be better spent on family things or your retirement?
All that being said , if you can truly afford it , you probably won't be happy until you buy the bike of your current dreams and as many say you can't take it with you and life is short....
Trading in a vehicle may not get you top dollar but cuts out a lot of time and hassle of selling on your own especially in this market now.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2019, 07:01:22 PM »

Only you can decide. Buy what you want.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2019, 11:47:48 PM »

The tour pack, bc of its height above the bike, makes a lot of difference to that top heavy feel of the Limited.  After it's removed, your Limited will feel much closer to the SG.  Then, IIRC, the SG has 1-inch shorter shocks than your Limited...so you could do same to your '16 and get a lower ride, making it even more like the SG--and for a lot less $$.

The way to decide is to ask yourself this question:  Is it worth (approximately) $19,000 for the things you gain from the SG?  Or would you be happy if you got everything except the paint by spending $1000 for terrific shocks and several $hundred for a seat.  Oh, and you wouldn't have to spend another $2000 to put a TP on the SG   :)
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2019, 09:31:09 AM »

I’ve taken the tour pak off and changed the seat, it has made a big difference in the weight and handling of the bike. I’m riding a SG today and my bike back to back, so I’ll get a good comparison. And yes, I’m totally aware of the differences in the motors. The deal offered is doable and affordable, so for me it comes down looks, performance and as mentioned, personal preference. Thanks for the input!

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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2019, 11:03:00 AM »

You're asking what you should do...that's tough, because I can only tell you what I'd do...and this is it: you're current bike only has 8600 miles - plenty of miles remaining.  I'd be concerned about trading for the M8 until I was assured the kinks have been worked out (oil migration and sumping). 
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2019, 12:21:48 PM »

 whats your wife saying ???   :nixweiss:  a lot is going to change for the BSR
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2019, 10:54:19 AM »

Wife is OK with trading if that's what I want to do. She knows what moves my soul!

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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2019, 01:25:06 PM »

Does your 2016 sump?
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2019, 04:01:17 PM »

No sumping, actually runs great.

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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2019, 05:10:10 PM »

A new bike can reinvigorate your riding desire, especially if you aren't exactly thrilled with your current ride. Go for it.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2019, 06:13:42 PM »

No sumping, actually runs great.

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Are you really, really really sure the new one will be as reliable?
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 06:29:52 PM »

Go for it, my M8 has been a terrific bike!
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2019, 07:30:56 PM »

$25,000 is a good trade price but that also depends on what he is charging for the new bike. If it's MSRP then it's a crap deal.

I just traded my '16 RGU for a '19 RG Special. Dealer gave me $27K for my '16 with 10,300 miles on it. I thought $27k was pretty fair. They also sold '19 Special for same as other dealer who offered me $25K for '16 trade in. And yes, the lowering of weight and seat height makes a huge difference. The '19 is the best handling Harley I have ever owned. The Milwaukee 8 has sooo much torque and power it is just much more  fun to ride.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2019, 09:57:25 PM »

Are you really, really really sure the new one will be as reliable?

I have had more issues with 110 twin cams than M8 bikes.  I have has 4 110 twin cam 110's and 3 CVO with the M8.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2019, 04:20:19 PM »

I did a quick sit down on my 17' CVO black & orange with a dealer yesterday. My bike has color matched chopped tour pack with HD airwing rack & led lights on it. Has HD complete high flow SE exhaust system part #64800059, along with EPA tuner and HD torque cam dynoed and installed at HD dealer last year. Has Legend Axeo front suspension installed by Zylstra as well.

The dealer offered $29k on my bike, MSRP on theirs, but they padded it pretty good with freight and setup etc that it was not quite, but close to being insulting.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2019, 04:24:32 PM »

I did a quick sit down on my 17' CVO black & orange with a dealer yesterday. My bike has color matched chopped tour pack with HD airwing rack & led lights on it. Has HD complete high flow SE exhaust system part #64800059, along with EPA tuner and HD torque cam dynoed and installed at HD dealer last year. Has Legend Axeo front suspension installed by Zylstra as well.

The dealer offered $29k on my bike, MSRP on theirs, but they padded it pretty good with freight and setup etc that it was not quite, but close to being insulting.

I have paid freight and and set up on every HD (4) that I have purchased. On first 2, I negotiated price and then tried to have these removed, both dealers refused to even discuss it.
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2019, 04:40:26 PM »

My dealer removed freight and "setup" and sold me my last 2 CVO's at MSRP and they weren't hangers, they were factory orders.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2019, 05:45:06 PM »

 when I bought the RENTAL... 16 SERGU it was later in the season (july 16)  I got it for $36.200 otd so iknow for a fact they have room to move, its just how to get them to move
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2019, 10:50:44 PM »

Well I pulled the trigger and bought a Red Pepper today. MSRP for bike. $1200 freight and setup, $100 Doc fee. $30k trade in on my 2017 CVO Street Glide. The salesman even ordered us a pizza to eat while cutting the deal. First for everything lol. I paid $34k for my bike slightly used with a lot of add-owns almost 2 years ago. So I’m pretty happy.

I did find out the first place that gave me a crappy offer (also gouging over MSRP) is owned by same couple of guys who now own 4 places here in the Twin Cities. They also own 2 down in Kansas or Indiana as well I guess.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2019, 06:25:00 AM »

Very Nice !!! Good Luck with the New Ride !!!

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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2019, 12:37:26 PM »

Nice, your gonna love the RG once you get a proper windshield on it. Check with John at Freedom Shields and report back to us on your impressions vs. the Batwing.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2019, 02:03:54 PM »

Well I pulled the trigger and bought a Red Pepper today. MSRP for bike. $1200 freight and setup, $100 Doc fee. $30k trade in on my 2017 CVO Street Glide. The salesman even ordered us a pizza to eat while cutting the deal. First for everything lol. I paid $34k for my bike slightly used with a lot of add-owns almost 2 years ago. So I’m pretty happy.

I did find out the first place that gave me a crappy offer (also gouging over MSRP) is owned by same couple of guys who now own 4 places here in the Twin Cities. They also own 2 down in Kansas or Indiana as well I guess.

Congrats, I love my Red Pepper :pepper:
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2019, 08:47:32 PM »

Well I pulled the trigger and bought a Red Pepper today. MSRP for bike. $1200 freight and setup, $100 Doc fee. $30k trade in on my 2017 CVO Street Glide. The salesman even ordered us a pizza to eat while cutting the deal. First for everything lol. I paid $34k for my bike slightly used with a lot of add-owns almost 2 years ago. So I’m pretty happy.

I did find out the first place that gave me a crappy offer (also gouging over MSRP) is owned by same couple of guys who now own 4 places here in the Twin Cities. They also own 2 down in Kansas or Indiana as well I guess.

Congratulations, Red Pepper is the best color for 19 in my opinion.  At bike week I saw one other red pepper, saw 4 Mako fade, and 3 of the silver.
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Re: Thinking Of Trading
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2019, 04:01:15 PM »

I tried to trade my 15 CVO Limited yesterday, dealer wanted my bike and $25000 plus fees. Needless to say the deal didn't fly.
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