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[Monolyth]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

[PMG1]

You should be angry. They are crooks!!  RUN. Tell us what are you looking for and I will promise someone on this board will find them at retail or below.

[sadunbar]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

I've never ever paid more than MSRP for any bike, CVO or otherwise... 

[mjb765]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

Look a little harder....mayber further than an hour outside Seattle. They are crooks who are waiting for some sucker who doesn't know the market to come in and be willing to pay anything for a "limited edition" CVO. Plenty of dealers selling MSRP and some even bleow or willing to through in parts discounts, clothing, etc.

And look at the bright side.....if you go a little further away, you can enjoy more of a ride home

[kmn2psi]

I am in the process of buying a 2012 Road Glide Custom,  One dealer wanted $2000 above MSRP flat told him no.  Called me back and dropped the 2k...they must sell bikes to keep doors open...cash talks...money is tight right now and if you are buying two CVO these guys should be serenading you...hang tight they will negotiate.

[MKW]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

Javelina HD asking 2K over but wil do 1K with good trade-in value.  Caliente quoted me MSRP which was not the case in the past.  Three other dealers relatively near but haven't checked in with them.

[mjb765]

Javelina HD asking 2K over but wil do 1K with good trade-in value.  Caliente quoted me MSRP which was not the case in the past.  Three other dealers relatively near but haven't checked in with them.

I saw the pricing in Gruene today...they had an '05 SEEG in red with a tour pack and15K miles and wanted over $21,000 for it....seemed a bit high

[JCZ]

Most of the dealerships in Nor Cal are MSRP.  Depending on what models you're looking for.....there are several CVOs on the floors at Sacramento and Folsom.

[dartman]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

Not only abnormal they are crooks, I had an 07 Ultra CVO, 09 Roadglide CVO and an 09 Ultra CVO all at msrp with no set up fees, For several thousand dollars do a fly and ride.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I did not pay over MSRP for my current CVO and will not for the next one.

[Elixer]

Albeit a few, there are still some HD dealers out there that advertise (in store sticker). offer and sell their new motorcycles for MSRP. HD of Lake Charles, LA is one of them....a true MSRP dealer and in their case, the oldest dealer in the state of LA.

Try the small guys and stay away from the "glamorship" dealers that only seem to invoke high pressure, Harley-mill sales attitudes.

Nothing beats an "old school" dealer for sales, parts and service.

[gabhart]

I paid $2000 below MSRP and will got the 1000 mile service thrown in.

[mark]

Bought my 03 SERK for $1,000 below MSRP.  This was at end of production year; however, the economy was good then and Harley was still in the driver's seat on pricing....and still got it for under MSRP. 

Bought my 10 SESG when they first came out (in Fall of 09) and paid MSRP.

Buddy just bought an 11 SERG and paid MSRP.

In this ecomomy, I wouldn't consider anything over MSRP.  I'd road trip to get MSRP rather than pay Seattle extortion.  I'd then ride my new bike to the extortionist and show them what a "missed sale" looks like.

[miker]

Wait....lots of these places use a step fee or sucker pricing for the gottahaverighteffinnow crowd.....1st 30-60 days on the floor, 2-5 k over....
2nd 30-60 days maybe less over...depends on how they move....There is a used 2010 sergu priced at what msrp new was...bastits.



No more new for me, only used.

[C2CRider]

IMO Eastside is the dirtbag of Washington...  Owens (Yakima)has a good and honest name~ typically no set up / BS fees.   Are you getting these quotes over the phone or in person?  In all my years I've never done business over the phone, face to face or not at all.   I bought a second bike a few months back, a 2010 FXSTC, new, for 2,500 under MSRP in Seattle

[mrmagloo]

I was going to say, I too would never pay more than MSRP for anything, unless I know I could resell it for more.

BTW - I was just at Chicago Harley in Glenview yesterday and they has a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra in the Red for $5,000 UNDER MSRP.  That's a great deal if anyone is interested.

[Monolyth]

IMO Eastside is the dirtbag of Washington...  Owens (Yakima)has a good and honest name~ typically no set up / BS fees.   Are you getting these quotes over the phone or in person?  In all my years I've never done business over the phone, face to face or not at all.   I bought a second bike a few months back, a 2010 FXSTC, new, for 2,500 under MSRP in Seattle

Always in person.  I was going into each one to add my name to the list and put down a deposit, then when they told me I had to pay a bribe to get the privilege of buying the bike I said no, and went to the next one.

Monolyth

[Panhead_Jimmy]

I've had three CVO's and never paid over MSRP.  However, I've never been able to buy from my "home town" dealer 'cause he always want $3k-over.  Having said that, I always have them do the service since they're the chit.  MSRP or more...It all depends on their individual business plan.  My homie dealer only gets a couple of CVO's a year and knows he can get someone to pay the premium.  Capitalism at it best. 

[CVOfan]

Another unpleasant conversation with a greedy dealer:

Fort Thunder Harley in Moore, OK...has an ad posted on Cycle Trader for a SESG at $32,699 (MSRP).  I called them and told them I'll take it.  They informed me that the ad is not accurate and they don't know how it got there???  Does Cycle Trader just make this stuff up and post the ads without someone initiating the process and paying the post fee???

The salesman informed me after talking with the owner that MOCO's MSRP is just that...a suggested price.  They want $5k more for their SESG.  As much as I would like to have one of the new 2012's, I'm growing weary dealing with such greed.  I'm at the point of either buying a Honda or getting out of the motorcycle business altogether.   

[spydglide]

Another unpleasant conversation with a greedy dealer:

Fort Thunder Harley in Moore, OK...has an ad posted on Cycle Trader for a SESG at $32,699 (MSRP).  I called them and told them I'll take it.  They informed me that the ad is not accurate and they don't know how it got there???  Does Cycle Trader just make this stuff up and post the ads without someone initiating the process and paying the post fee???

The salesman informed me after talking with the owner that MOCO's MSRP is just that...a suggested price.  They want $5k more for their SESG.  As much as I would like to have one of the new 2012's, I'm growing weary dealing with such greed.  I'm at the point of either buying a Honda or getting out of the motorcycle business altogether.   

You don't have to do either......there's lots of good, clean (like new) scooters out there with LOW miles that you can purchase from a individual and not even deal with the dealer crap.  And not all dealers are that full of it either. Just have to move on down the road a ways.  spyder

[2smoke]

If you live in the North (like me) anytime after Oct. 1st is the better time to buy.  Paid $4000 under sticker for mine (no fees) and my friend paid $4500 under sticker (no fees).  The opposite is true also- summer is a great time to buy a snowmobile.

[grc]

As long as some folks continue to let dealers screw them over, those dealers will continue to play the same old games.  There is no vehicle on earth that I will pay one dime over MSRP for, and when everyone feels that way and backs it up with action, the crooks will either see the light or they will starve to death waiting for that home run deal.  If anyone wants to point a finger, point it at the idiots who either have to much money or to much credit and just keep bidding up the prices.  There will never be an answer for the morons in Daytona, but out in bumf$%* there is no excuse for anyone to let themselves be robbed.

BTW, before anyone considers paying over MSRP, check out the current value of a two or three year old model.  We are no longer in those market conditions that allowed folks to pay over MSRP but still make out OK because used bike values were so high.  All that extra profit you pay the dealer is just like all the money you spend on add-ons when it comes time to trade, it doesn't count for anything and you can kiss it goodbye.


Jerry

[CVOfan]

If you live in the North (like me) anytime after Oct. 1st is the better time to buy.  Paid $4000 under sticker for mine (no fees) and my friend paid $4500 under sticker (no fees).  The opposite is true also- summer is a great time to buy a snowmobile.

Please PM me when you see your local dealer going to those prices....it looks like at the rate I'm going right now, I'll still be without a bike after Oct 1.  I'll walk before I pay that much for another CVO

[dlaws01]

In today's economy, the dealer's should be discounting off MSRP.  I would continue to shop around.

[MKW]

Let me chime in.  Although a special situation, I paid 9% below MSRP via Military Sales while I was deployed for 11 months to Iraq.  Had the bike shipped to Cowboy HD in Austin and they had it all set up before I returned.  I returned to Ft Hood and got reconnected with my beautiful wife, son, and two daughters-one of which was born while I was home on R&R.  After seeing them it was off the Cowboy to see the bike-what could be better than that 

[CVOfan]

Let me chime in.  Although a special situation, I paid 9% below MSRP via Military Sales while I was deployed for 11 months to Iraq.  Had the bike shipped to Cowboy HD in Austin and they had it all set up before I returned.  I returned to Ft Hood and got reconnected with my beautiful wife, son, and two daughters-one of which was born while I was home on R&R.  After seeing them it was off the Cowboy to see the bike-what could be better than that 

That's a cool story....let me take the time to thank you and express my appreciation for your service to our great country.  If I had my way, MOCO would give you the bike for free.  You've earned it.   

[spydglide]

Let me chime in.  Although a special situation, I paid 9% below MSRP via Military Sales while I was deployed for 11 months to Iraq.  Had the bike shipped to Cowboy HD in Austin and they had it all set up before I returned.  I returned to Ft Hood and got reconnected with my beautiful wife, son, and two daughters-one of which was born while I was home on R&R.  After seeing them it was off the Cowboy to see the bike-what could be better than that 

Can't think of anything at the moment.    spyder

[MadCVORG]

H-D Mil Sales is the way to go. Had planned on ordering mine from a Stateside dealer, but got $4K off MSRP through Mil Sales. No extra hidden fees  either!

[CVOThunder]

H-D Mil Sales is the way to go. Had planned on ordering mine from a Stateside dealer, but got $4K off MSRP through Mil Sales. No extra hidden fees  either!

So true. That was my original plan but I listened to the BS the dealer said (90% of the bikes had problems bla bla bla) and bought from them. I had a full page of whining about it. Deleted it all.

[bokat96]

H-D Mil Sales is the way to go. Had planned on ordering mine from a Stateside dealer, but got $4K off MSRP through Mil Sales. No extra hidden fees  either!

This is true in most cases, however, for some it could cost more. There are some states that still charge sales tax to the ENCS bikes. I bought my 02 Deuce cheaper through the local dealer than through ENCS by the time it would have been said and done. IMO it would be better to buy from your local dealer if you are going to be there for awhile and reap some of the benefits most dealers offer.

As for the new bike FLHXSE2 I saved a ton going through ENCS I took delivery in Germany and as it is registered here will not have to pay any sales tax of fees upon going back stateside. I am OTD for 32K that would be unheard of in peak season anywhere in the states.

ENCS is great for the ones that like to just assume they got or are getting a great deal because the sales rep says so that is on bikes or cars. I proved this to my local sales rep on Ford trucks, sure they would match the price but what does that do for your local dealer who already gave you the right price the first time.

   complete

[cvobiker]

Most of the dealerships in Nor Cal are MSRP.  Depending on what models you're looking for.....there are several CVOs on the floors at Sacramento and Folsom.

Defiantly worth a trip to California, maybe a fly and ride   Guideras in Yuba City has 3, maybe 4 CVO on their floor, about 40 mins north of Sacramento...   Guideras also will sale MSRP, and they have been known to throw in a few extras, i.e. Riding clothes etc...

[Mach]

Shops in PA wanted $4k over MSRP, I was doing a job in SC in Feb 2011 and they told me $2k off MSRP and they drove 2.5 hours to pick up the bike.  They called me up and said the bike is here  BUT the interest on the loan is 4.9% (they quoted me 3.9%) I told them to put to drop the price $720 or put the bike back on the floor. 4 days later they called back dropping the price $720.  IMO it depends on how bad you want the bike. The 3.9% financing is what sold me.

[RedEagle]

Let me chime in.  Although a special situation, I paid 9% below MSRP via Military Sales while I was deployed for 11 months to Iraq.  Had the bike shipped to Cowboy HD in Austin and they had it all set up before I returned.  I returned to Ft Hood and got reconnected with my beautiful wife, son, and two daughters-one of which was born while I was home on R&R.  After seeing them it was off the Cowboy to see the bike-what could be better than that 

Great..!  I am glad you are safe and sound!
I Salute you and your fellow soldiers..!  (If they had a smiley face that did a salute I would post it here..*S)

[Fired00d]

Great..!  I am glad you are safe and sound!
I Salute you and your fellow soldiers..!  (If they had a smiley face that did a salute I would post it here..*S)

Google is a wonderful thing.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[RoadKingHog]

Thanks for the tip.  I hope I never break down in Seattle and have to get dealer service.  (Pretty remote possibility, no pun intended.)

Purchased my 08 Road King CVO at MSRP in Ocala, FL; and my wife's 2010 FLSTSE at MSRP at the Pensacola, FL dealership (with $500 dealer funny money to spend on anything - accessories, clothes, pipes, etc.)

Get on the phone and call.  Ready money talks.  As a member already suggested, it be a nice flight there and bike ride back.

Keep the shiny side up!!

[bigdave110]

Shops in PA wanted $4k over MSRP, I was doing a job in SC in Feb 2011 and they told me $2k off MSRP and they drove 2.5 hours to pick up the bike.  They called me up and said the bike is here  BUT the interest on the loan is 4.9% (they quoted me 3.9%) I told them to put to drop the price $720 or put the bike back on the floor. 4 days later they called back dropping the price $720.  IMO it depends on how bad you want the bike. The 3.9% financing is what sold me.

Not all of them brother.
Z&M in Greensburg PA is always MSRP plus 20% off all products and service at purchase, plus a one time 20% off card to use at a later date, plus 1,000 service.
Not as good as some of the guys are getting, but it's consistent each and every day.

Dave

[CVOfan]

INCREDIBLE!!!!  I would normally post this in the third party for sale area, but I'm not posting to help the guy sell his bike.  It's not enough that the dealers ask $6 over MSRP....here is a private seller with a used bike doing the same thing:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2012-HarleyDavidson-Screamin-Eagle-Cvo-Street-Glide-/330603507909?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4cf98130c5#ht_500wt_1182   

[spydglide]

INCREDIBLE!!!!  I would normally post this in the third party for sale area, but I'm not posting to help the guy sell his bike.  It's not enough that the dealers ask $6 over MSRP....here is a private seller with a used bike doing the same thing:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2012-HarleyDavidson-Screamin-Eagle-Cvo-Street-Glide-/330603507909?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4cf98130c5#ht_500wt_1182   

It makes you wonder if they really want to sell them, doesn't it?  spyder

[Hotrod50]

Let me chime in.  Although a special situation, I paid 9% below MSRP via Military Sales while I was deployed for 11 months to Iraq.  Had the bike shipped to Cowboy HD in Austin and they had it all set up before I returned.  I returned to Ft Hood and got reconnected with my beautiful wife, son, and two daughters-one of which was born while I was home on R&R.  After seeing them it was off the Cowboy to see the bike-what could be better than that 

You went and saw the kids BEFORE the new bike??  What's wrong with you?? Get your priorities right.     Thanks for what you do!

[CVOfan]

It makes you wonder if they really want to sell them, doesn't it?  spyder

Actually, that thought didn't occur to me.  I can see the situation clearly now:  Husband buys bike without wife's permission, wife says "the bike goes or I go", husband gives in and offers bike for sale, no bidders on the sale while wife has time to cool off.  Pretty good psychology now that I think about it.  Thanks, Spyder, for the insight.   

[CVOThunder]

Wow, some of you guys work some great deals. While I got MSRP, I was an idiot when paying their inflated prices for ESP w/T&W, setup fees, registration fees and that damn Trident. I allowed myself to get caught up in the buy thing. The biggest thing I really hate is I allowed them to lie to me and tell me that 90 % of the ENCS bikes had problems. They knew full well that I was working in Iraq and am retired military but they could see that I was interested and went for the jugular. I whine about this a lot, sorry 'bout that but it bugs the f outta me. A new Harley was to be my final hurrah present to myself for working overhere. If any military are reading this I know you're smarter than me but don't allow these b$%^ards to steal a benefit that Harley is granting us. Dealership experience?!?!? F that, I will only buy through ENCS while possible and avoid the dealerships. I don't want any dealer hype...cuz I'm stupid and allowed them to work me. That's why I like to buy online where I can see the deal and evaluate the entire costs. I got too caught up in the moment. Limburger with my whine please. Could care less if I come across as a puss if I can help one service member avoid this pitfall.

At least I cancelled their inflated ESP and got a better deal at Cutter (saved about $900) and now I'm refinancing through another source and saving 3.1%. Trying to make up for my stupidity.

[DarkEagle]

check with Jamie at Columbia down south in Vancouver, WA. He did not have what I wanted for 6 months but gave me a list of NW dealers that had the exact model & color I wanted. WA dealers wanted $2,000 over, ended up in Idaho. They did my friend good on total cost with accessories but he had to wait.

Been awhile but did not find any WA dealers willing to go lower than $1,600 above MSRP + shipping. It was 3 years ago, but Albany & Eugene in Oregon used to charge straight MSRP + shipping.

Vancouver & Albany did not have as large inventory as the bigger dealers. Of course you are going to need to settle with a local dealer for "service" & what they call a warranty.

[Jerry/MD]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

The Seattle area must be awash in jobs and people willing to over-pay. Truly amazing!

[ultrafxr]

The Seattle area must be awash in jobs and people willing to over-pay. Truly amazing!

Friend of mine has grown kids who took jobs in Seattle several years ago.  When they went house hunting the normal procedure was to make an offer higher than the asking price.  WTF?  It was a seller's market and buyers were trying to outbid each other to get the property.  Market has cooled of course but still some crazy stuff.

[Gatornapper]

I paid $2000 below MSRP and will got the 1000 mile service thrown in.

Had to be Waugh, right?  Got my '09 FLTRSE3 like new there w/22k mis. on it for a very good price.....PO had just traded it for a new Road Glide Ultra....

Yeah, come to Virginia, ride the bike back to Seattle and have a trip you'll never forget....

[spydglide]

Had to be Waugh, right?  Got my '09 FLTRSE3 like new there w/22k mis. on it for a very good price.....PO had just traded it for a new Road Glide Ultra....

Yeah, come to Virginia, ride the bike back to Seattle and have a trip you'll never forget....

And I like the family (father/son) that owns/runs Waugh....long time into racing, treat people right, and seem to appreciate the scooters and their history more than just selling another 'unit'.  Always try to stop by and shoot the chit with the ole man and smell his pipe smoke when passing that way.  har.  spyder

[CVOThunder]

Now that sounds like a dealership I could support!

Hey Spyder, my bad for the negatives vibes on the Death Valley comment. I DO appreciate the heads ups. Thanks!

[spydglide]

Now that sounds like a dealership I could support!

Hey Spyder, my bad for the negatives vibes on the Death Valley comment. I DO appreciate the heads ups. Thanks!

Didn't absorb any neg. vibes....was just thinking out loud 'cause not everyone has the experience you've obtained in those conditions.  Live & learn & continue to live.  har.  spyder

[charles05663]

Actually, that thought didn't occur to me.  I can see the situation clearly now:  Husband buys bike without wife's permission, wife says "the bike goes or I go", husband gives in and offers bike for sale, no bidders on the sale while wife has time to cool off.  Pretty good psychology now that I think about it.  Thanks, Spyder, for the insight.   

Husband takes balls back from wife and reattaches them.  States this is where they belong and points to his pants and states these are the only pair in the house and I wear them.  Get over it honey.

[Rhetor]

INCREDIBLE!!!!  I would normally post this in the third party for sale area, but I'm not posting to help the guy sell his bike.  It's not enough that the dealers ask $6 over MSRP....here is a private seller with a used bike doing the same thing:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2012-HarleyDavidson-Screamin-Eagle-Cvo-Street-Glide-/330603507909?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4cf98130c5#ht_500wt_1182   

And he did sell it!

[Monolyth]

If you look at his other auctions you will see that he has sold other brandnew bikes. Maybe a dealer?

Monolyth

[CVOfan]

If you look at his other auctions you will see that he has sold other brandnew bikes. Maybe a dealer?

Monolyth

I thought the same thing...

[Midnight Rider]

And he did sell it!

There's a sucker born every minute...

[CVOfan]

There's a sucker born every minute...

I wouldn't have the heart to tell the buyer how bad he got taken...I'm sure he's extremely proud of the new scooter (as he should be).  It will be a rude awakening if he ever decides to sell...

[mjb765]

I wouldn't have the heart to tell the buyer how bad he got taken...I'm sure he's extremely proud of the new scooter (as he should be).  It will be a rude awakening if he ever decides to sell...

Sometimes I don't undersatand people......in researching a new bike, wouldn't you go to the manufacturer website and read about it--including the MSRP? Then go to a few dealers and see what they charge???  But to pay that much over MSRP through EBAY is crazy....

[Midnight Rider]

I wouldn't have the heart to tell the buyer how bad he got taken...I'm sure he's extremely proud of the new scooter (as he should be).  It will be a rude awakening if he ever decides to sell...

Neither would I.  It never ceases to amaze me that people will pay well over MSRP for a CVO, particularly in light of the fact that so much information is only a click or two away for those willing to look.  I guess if you've got more money than you know what to do with, it doesn't matter.  There really is no reason not to be an educated buyer, no matter what the product...I rarely buy anything anymore without comparing on the web.  There are a lot of folks who impulse buy though...I've done it myself in the distant past.

[MKW]

You went and saw the kids BEFORE the new bike??  What's wrong with you?? Get your priorities right.     Thanks for what you do!

Would have seen the bike first but the family met me at the plane-   Thanks for the kind words its much appreciated but not necessary.

[RedEagle]

Would have seen the bike first but the family met me at the plane-   Thanks for the kind words its much appreciated but not necessary.

I would love to see a pic of you and the family around the new Bike..!!!
Congradulations...!!

I am a son of a solider..!

[CVOgliderider]

So in the Seattle area we have more HD shops then you can imagine.  Like 6+ within an hour of seattle. I have reached out to several and recieved the same response.  Some want $2,000 over MSRP and others want $5,000 over MSRP.  So bascially you have to pay a $2,000-$5,000 bribe to be allowed to purchase the bike.  I am trying to buy two of them and they still won't budge on the bribe money.

I have a hard time with that...  Are my dealership abnormal or is that pretty much what I will face buying from out of state as well.

Monolyth

Eureka California sells at MSRP, fly down and enjoy the ride home. They have a few CVO's on the floor and I think more of the 2012 model's arriving
shortly.

[MKW]

I would love to see a pic of you and the family around the new Bike..!!!
Congradulations...!!

I am a son of a solider..!

Thanks, I'll post one this weekend.

[muddypaws]

I called Waugh in Virginia and was given a price for a 2012 over MSRP.

[RedDevil]

I called Waugh in Virginia and was given a price for a 2012 over MSRP.

How much over MSRP was Waugh?  That really surprises me because Don prides himself in being an MSRP dealership.  "Always have been, always will be", according to him.  One thing Waugh is well known for though, is they will add dealer installed options prior to putting a bike on the floor.  You do pay extra, obviously, for those and don't have the option to have them taken off and put back to stock.  That's usually what they do, but the bike itself is, or has been, always MSRP.  

[Fired00d]

How much over MSRP was Waugh?  That really surprises me because Don prides himself in being an MSRP dealership.  "Always have been, always will be", according to him.  One thing Waugh is well known for though, is they will add dealer installed options prior to putting a bike on the floor.  You do pay extra, obviously, for those and don't have the option to have them taken off and put back to stock.  That's usually what they do, but the bike itself is, or has been, always MSRP.  

True, and I don't believe you get the stock take off parts either.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SBB]

True, and I don't believe you get the stock take off parts either.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Good catch d00d!

 

SBB

[wachuko]

I hope that is not the case with the local dealer...  Deal that I am looking for on a 2012 Road Glide Custom CVO in Candy Cobalt/Twilight Blue with Real Smoke Graphics is:

1. 2,500 off MSRP
2. 3.9% Financing
3. Color-Matched Chopped Tour-Pak Luggage. Includes matching CVO™ Graphics, Premium Hinges and Retractable Tether. P/N 53000055DGC ??
4. Deluxe Chopped Tour-Pak Liner P/N 91783-96
5. Chopped Tour-Pak Backrest Pad –  P/N 52898-98A  ??
6. Lock and Keys P/N 53194-07 (keyed-to-match) - I have the 4-point Docking HW Kit Passenger BK Rest - 54205-09 and the Detachable Two-Up Tour-Pak Mounting Rack – 53276-09A.  Not sure what else I would need for the install.
7. Color-Matched Saddlebag Spoilers with LEDs. P/N 58606??
8. Indoor/Outdoor Motorcycle Cover with Eagle Logo – 98715-85VC
9. Service Manual '12 Touring Models – P/N 99483-12
10. Service Manual Supplement '12 FLTRXSE Models
11. Electrical Diagnostic Manual – P/N 99497-12
12. Men's Washed Skull Baseball Cap – 99480-10VM

I hope we can do the deal....

[mrmagloo]

I hope that is not the case with the local dealer...  Deal that I am looking for on a 2012 Road Glide Custom CVO in Candy Cobalt/Twilight Blue with Real Smoke Graphics is:

1. 2,500 off MSRP
2. 3.9% Financing
3. Color-Matched Chopped Tour-Pak Luggage. Includes matching CVO™ Graphics, Premium Hinges and Retractable Tether. P/N 53000055DGC ??
4. Deluxe Chopped Tour-Pak Liner P/N 91783-96
5. Chopped Tour-Pak Backrest Pad –  P/N 52898-98A  ??
6. Lock and Keys P/N 53194-07 (keyed-to-match) - I have the 4-point Docking HW Kit Passenger BK Rest - 54205-09 and the Detachable Two-Up Tour-Pak Mounting Rack – 53276-09A.  Not sure what else I would need for the install.
7. Color-Matched Saddlebag Spoilers with LEDs. P/N 58606??
8. Indoor/Outdoor Motorcycle Cover with Eagle Logo – 98715-85VC
9. Service Manual '12 Touring Models – P/N 99483-12
10. Service Manual Supplement '12 FLTRXSE Models
11. Electrical Diagnostic Manual – P/N 99497-12
12. Men's Washed Skull Baseball Cap – 99480-10VM

I hope we can do the deal....

I wish you luck - I'm afriad you're gonna need it!

[wachuko]

I wish you luck - I'm afriad you're gonna need it!

Well, I can ask, right?    Worst thing they can say is yes.  

[MKW]

Well, I can ask, right?    Worst thing the can say is yes. 

   Welcome to the site

[mrmagloo]

Well, I can ask, right?    Worst thing the can say is yes. 

Absolutely it never hurts to ask, that would be one heck of a deal, especially when many dealers pretty well stick to MSRP, and as the thread suggestx, some ask considerably more.  Imho, if I could get $2,500 of plus a small allowance, I'd be all over that.

[Monolyth]

If I could find a convertible blue, and a street glide in black for MSRP, I would fly out to the dealership, buy it and ride home.

Monolyth

[wachuko]

Absolutely it never hurts to ask, that would be one heck of a deal, especially when many dealers pretty well stick to MSRP, and as the thread suggestx, some ask considerably more.  Imho, if I could get $2,500 of plus a small allowance, I'd be all over that.

They did not come down from MSRP... I was able to at least get those additional parts for 1,500.00. Trade for my Sedona was 16.5K.  4.9% rate on the loan. No dealer fees...

Deal is done. I left my Sedona Orange bike in the dealer, signed away... pick up the new bike tomorrow or Tuesday (in route). I am blue... ...but in a good way 

2012 Road Glide Custom CVO in Candy Cobalt/Twilight Blue with Real Smoke Graphics

with:

Color-Matched Chopped Tour-Pak Luggage. Includes matching CVO™ Graphics, Premium Hinges and Retractable Tether
Deluxe Chopped Tour-Pak Liner P/N 91783-96
Chopped Tour-Pak Backrest Pad
Lock and Keys P/N 53194-07 (keyed-to-match)
Color-Matched Saddlebag Spoilers with LEDs.
Indoor/Outdoor Motorcycle Cover with Eagle Logo – 98715-85VC
Service Manual '12 Touring Models – P/N 99483-12
Service Manual Supplement '12 FLTRXSE Models
Electrical Diagnostic Manual – P/N 99497-12
Men's Washed Skull Baseball Cap – 99480-10VM

[hondo]

I agree about east side, in 2010 they tried the same thing on me about 2500.00 over msrp with a 9.9 interest rate, went to legend harley in silverdale Wa got 500.00 below msrp with a 5.5 rate !

[hooligan]

I was @ B&B Harley Davidson in Nutter Fort, West Virgina on Friday they have 3 CVO's all had MSRP pricing. (according to the tag anyways) 1 Road Glide and 2 Convertables

[Hx3]

I took my time buying my 2011 a month or two ago and ended up under MSRP by almost $3,000.  It was the end of the model year though and the 2012's were coming out, so I'm sure that had something to do with my deal.

[mrmagloo]

You often see nice discounts on last years models that are sitting around.

[Indenial]

I hope that is not the case with the local dealer...  Deal that I am looking for on a 2012 Road Glide Custom CVO in Candy Cobalt/Twilight Blue with Real Smoke Graphics is:

1. 2,500 off MSRP
2. 3.9% Financing
3. Color-Matched Chopped Tour-Pak Luggage. Includes matching CVO™ Graphics, Premium Hinges and Retractable Tether. P/N 53000055DGC ??
4. Deluxe Chopped Tour-Pak Liner P/N 91783-96
5. Chopped Tour-Pak Backrest Pad –  P/N 52898-98A  ??
6. Lock and Keys P/N 53194-07 (keyed-to-match) - I have the 4-point Docking HW Kit Passenger BK Rest - 54205-09 and the Detachable Two-Up Tour-Pak Mounting Rack – 53276-09A.  Not sure what else I would need for the install.
7. Color-Matched Saddlebag Spoilers with LEDs. P/N 58606??
8. Indoor/Outdoor Motorcycle Cover with Eagle Logo – 98715-85VC
9. Service Manual '12 Touring Models – P/N 99483-12
10. Service Manual Supplement '12 FLTRXSE Models
11. Electrical Diagnostic Manual – P/N 99497-12
12. Men's Washed Skull Baseball Cap – 99480-10VM

I hope we can do the deal....

The skull baseball cap will probably ruin the deal.

[wachuko]

The skull baseball cap will probably ruin the deal.

I think that is what prevented them from giving me the deal... wish I had known at the time,  

[glenn bob]

Bought my 2012 CVO Ultra two weeks ago.....MSRP  south bend, IN
Talked to HD Rapid City, SD  while looking and they said MSRP
Boise, ID  they said MSRP
for what its worth
Glenn

[skippy]

The dealers are making money at msrp bought my 09 SERG for almost 5000.00 below msrp ,yes I had a friend deal but he told me he still made money.....

[DaBigNuttedMan]

while shopping for our new 2011 fltruse we were traveling a lot between Buffalo NY and Indianpolis we hit all the dealers inbetween got prices between $33,000 to 38,700, when i decided to buyI did a search in Indiana to see who had the Rio red one we wanted called all the indy dealers offering 34,000 flat no setup or shipping on top nothing, we got it that way at 2.8 financing on the phone. went for a drive and picked it up. The $33,000 guy was an offer I made, he wouldnot wave setup and shipping and was too far from home in indy to save any money, too much travel to get it. I bet I coulda got another $500.00 off if I woulda trie  :bananarock:d.    were happy

[CVOfan]

The dealers are making money at msrp bought my 09 SERG for almost 5000.00 below msrp ,yes I had a friend deal but he told me he still made money.....

MSRP on anything has a generous margin factored in.  It's absurd to consider paying over the "sticker price".  There are still plenty of people who have more $ than sense and that's keeps the vulture dealers circling.

[North Georgia Hawg]

Paying over MSRP is just wrong. I would never do it. I got my new bike at H-D of Macon... Great folks there. The oldest continuously operating dealership in the U.S. - started by Grover Sassaman, now 91 and still riding a Road King, in Lakeland, FL in 1939 - and now run by him and his son Greg. Grover was signed up as a dealer by Arthur Davidson himself. I was there last weekend and talked with Grover for the better part of an hour... fascinating gentleman. They have a video interview of him on their website... it's well worth watching.... he was in Pappy Boyington's Black Sheep Squadron in WWII.

ANYWAY, they quoted me MSRP over the phone, and that's what I paid - with a $250 doc fee only (much lower than the going Atlanta rate), and no setup fee. Greg took it on its test ride himself, to make sure it was perfect. It was!

I highly recommend HD of Macon. No, I'm not getting endorsement fees... they simply treated me right... no pressure to buy the bike nor an extended warranty, no gimmicks, no over-MSRP markup. They just delivered the bike to me in a quality manner, and they stayed 3 hours after closing on a Friday night to do it. I didn't even arrive there until a half hour past their normal closing time. Very pleasant buying experience, and I'll do it again on my next bike (probably a long time from now, unless my wife decides she doesn't want to ride the old '95 FLHTP!)

[spydglide]

Paying over MSRP is just wrong. I would never do it. I got my new bike at H-D of Macon... Great folks there. The oldest continuously operating dealership in the U.S. I highly recommend HD of Macon. No, I'm not getting endorsement fees... they simply treated me right... no pressure to buy the bike nor an extended warranty, no gimmicks, no over-MSRP markup. They just delivered the bike to me in a quality manner, and they stayed 3 hours after closing on a Friday night to do it. I didn't even arrive there until a half hour past their normal closing time. Very pleasant buying experience, and I'll do it again on my next bike (probably a long time from now, unless my wife decides she doesn't want to ride the old '95 FLHTP!)

I just love reading about a dealer that is still true to the tradition and does it 'ole school' with respect for the product & customer instead of the way so many have resorted to in recent years.  Thanks for posting this and I'll try and stop by and see these folks when possible.  spyder

[AZ Sparky]

If I could find a convertible blue, and a street glide in black for MSRP, I would fly out to the dealership, buy it and ride home.

Monolyth

Guess I was lucky with my home dealer here in Yuma. 
I wanted the Krypto - Brian here at Bobby's asked me if I was ready to buy if they got one and I said absolutely. 
2 Days later they had found one and traded for it.
Paid straight MSRP.
This was when a dealer in Phoenix and one in Tucson BOTH wanted over MSRP  - one because the Kryptos were rare and the other because every dealer marks up the CVOs - riiiiight....

If you are seriouls about flying in and riding home, give Bobby's a call and tell them what you want - if they don't have it, they'll track it down and trade for it (if the other dealer is willing).

Sparky

[tazmun]

  "I would never do it. I got my new bike at H-D of Macon... Great folks there.The oldest continuously operating dealership in the U.S. - started by Grover Sassaman, now 91 and
still riding a Road King, in Lakeland, FL in 1939"

We have a dealer in Wisconsin, that's been continuous since April 1, 1930,
Uke's Harley-Davidson. Just thought you would like to know!

[North Georgia Hawg]

  "I would never do it. I got my new bike at H-D of Macon... Great folks there.The oldest continuously operating dealership in the U.S. - started by Grover Sassaman, now 91 and
still riding a Road King, in Lakeland, FL in 1939"

We have a dealer in Wisconsin, that's been continuous since April 1, 1930,
Uke's Harley-Davidson. Just thought you would like to know!

Well, Grover told me that he is the oldest continuously operating dealership owner.... meaning that he started the dealership and he still operates it himself - not handed down to children, or sold to someone else who still operates it under the same name. Anyway... that's a long time for a single person to run a dealership!

[tazmun]

Well, Grover told me that he is the oldest continuously operating dealership owner.... meaning that he started the dealership and he still operates it himself - not handed down to children, or sold to someone else who still operates it under the same name. Anyway... that's a long time for a single person to run a dealership!

  Yes it is. He must sure love to work. We have a multi brand dealer in Milwaukee
that the owner is there every day, and is in HER low eighties!

[North Georgia Hawg]

  Yes it is. He must sure love to work. We have a multi brand dealer in Milwaukee
that the owner is there every day, and is in HER low eighties!

I love and deeply respect the Old Guard dealers... the one swho have motorcycling in their blood. Not all that many dealers like that these days. Grover told me that he is there nearly every day... and the fact that he can even still ride a Road King is pretty amazing! When he said he still rode, I expected him to say he rode a Tri-Glide... but he didn't.  I hope I can still ride when I'm anywhere NEAR his age!

[Dr.D]

Wow What thread! I bought my 09 SEDFB when the 11's models were close to delivery and paid 4G under MSRP. The dealer was whining a bout the fact that he could not loose money. I corrected him stating that he certainly could like any other business could. After all was done I am sure he did not loose a dime but may have had a lower profit margin that he wished for.

I had a Mercedes dealer tell me that he could sell his overpriced cars in NY state any day and I told him that he needed to decide whether he wanted to serve dealer in NY or serve customer in TN. We bought a Lexus.

I thought MSRP was a starting point of negotiation but the consumer decides the selling point.

As to the brave soul reminding his wife who wears the balls I would remind him she controls the need for such.

[North Georgia Hawg]

Wow What thread! I bought my 09 SEDFB when the 11's models were close to delivery and paid 4G under MSRP. The dealer was whining a bout the fact that he could not loose money. I corrected him stating that he certainly could like any other business could. After all was done I am sure he did not loose a dime but may have had a lower profit margin that he wished for.

I had a Mercedes dealer tell me that he could sell his overpriced cars in NY state any day and I told him that he needed to decide whether he wanted to serve dealer in NY or serve customer in TN. We bought a Lexus.

I thought MSRP was a starting point of negotiation but the consumer decides the selling point.

As to the brave soul reminding his wife who wears the balls I would remind him she controls the need for such.

Yeah... it's what I learned many years ago from none other than Dick Armey, my college Microeconomics prof at Univ. of North Texas.... before he went and got himself elected to Congress and made history with Newt Gingrich. He always spoke about "price elasticity of demand"... a fancy way of saying that market demand dictates the price that a seller can get for their goods. There is always an equilibrium in the market between supply and demand... if the demand rises, then prices rise to meet it... and if demand falls, then so do prices - until equilibrium is again achieved between supply and demand. Pretty simple really... just common sense... but I learned it from somebody IMPORTANT!   


Apparently, some people are willing to pay a LOT for these CVOs this year, and if the dealers can find buyers for inflated prices, that means the free market is working. However, a dealer slapping an excessively high price on a bike doesn't mean there is a buyer out there with a sufficiently high demand to pay that price. If people really ARE paying $3-4K over MSRP for these bikes, then the economy must be better than the news reports say. Or maybe there are just a lot of RIBs (Rich Idiot Bikers) out there!

I would not personally pay more than MSRP for any bike, and I didn't have to. So maybe the demand ISN'T as high as some (many? MOST?) dealers would like us to believe it is...

Speaking of supply and demand always makes me thirsty... 

[Monolyth]

I 100% support every dealerships right to charge anything they want for the bikes.... hell any business can charge whatever it wants for it's goods or services.  If I was a stock holder in that dealership I would expect them to maximize profits as much as possible.

What I don't understand is when a dealership actions result is short term gain and long term loss.  There are 6 HD shops within 30min of my house here in Seattle with 5 different owners.  The economy is very strong here.  I use to buy my bikes and get my service from one of them until they wanted to charge me more then MSRP for a new bike.  Instead not only did I buy it from one of the other HD shops in the area, I also moved my service, parts, clothes etc... purchases there as well.

I feel in this case that trying to go for the quick buck will cost them more in the long run as I spend my money at another dealership. When you burn a solid repeat customer for a quick buck it has consequences.

Monolith

[glenn bob]

So right you are.  In the long run they will lose.  Its hard to understand why the don not realize that.
Glenn bob

[C2CRider]

I know, as does everyone else, that Eastside charges some crazy chit.  Downtown (and Owens) do not.  After reading your initial post, I specifically asked a salesman I have know for years and years, at Downtown about their prices,  and since I am there 2 - 3 times a week, I have looked at their listed prices and  am not seeing what you claim......  maybe I am missing something here........................................?  I just bought a second bike from them (DTHD)for WAY under MSRP. 

[Monolyth]

I know, as does everyone else, that Eastside charges some crazy chit.  Downtown (and Owens) do not.  After reading your initial post, I specifically asked a salesman I have know for years and years, at Downtown about their prices,  and since I am there 2 - 3 times a week, I have looked at their listed prices and  am not seeing what you claim......  maybe I am missing something here........................................?  I just bought a second bike from them (DTHD)for WAY under MSRP. 

I tried not to be specifc on dealership names, but this post forces my hand because I have a ton or respect for Downtown HD and do not want anyone to get the wrong impression.  Downtown HD is the dealership I use NOW, they are the dealership I will continue to use and have bent over backwards for me in Service (Kevin is an awesome service manager) as well as sales.  Downtown has lower hourly rates for service, and a staff that is always incredibly accomodating.  I highly recommend them.  They also sell CVO's at MSRP and non-CVO's at MSRP or lower. 

My negative dealings are with other dealerships in the area.

[C2CRider]

I tried not to be specifc on dealership names, but this post forces my hand because I have a ton or respect for Downtown HD and do not want anyone to get the wrong impression.  Downtown HD is the dealership I use NOW, they are the dealership I will continue to use and have bent over backwards for me in Service (Kevin is an awesome service manager) as well as sales.  Downtown has lower hourly rates for service, and a staff that is always incredibly accomodating.  I highly recommend them.  They also sell CVO's at MSRP and non-CVO's at MSRP or lower. 

My negative dealings are with other dealerships in the area.

Bought my first bike from them (DTHD) in 86/87 , first new one from them in 92.  Been with them ever since. Bought one new from Owens, VERY stand up, just farther away.
Yes, Kevin is an amazing Service Manager,  should clone him and pass him around to other dealerships.  Sean (Asst. Mgr) runs the ship in the back and does one hell of a job!!!  When "BOB" bought DTHD many of us long time folks were worried, mega auto dealership and metric bike dealership owner buying a somewhat drifting HD dealership.  Terry, the General Manager, has to me (and MANY of us) proven himself to us and has some top notch folks there.

[Buy early]

As long as MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, dealers can price them as demand allows. Don't fault them for that. It's the dummies that pay more than retail that prolong the problem.

Personally, I try not to purchase any car or bike new as the first bite is something I am happy to give to someone else. I have found that folks that buy really nice stuff have a tendency to take good care of it and not use it too much because they usually have lots of other really nice stuff that competes for their time and passion.

I am happy to wait until they move on to the next shiny object and purchase a nice used piece of gear, usually with a few mods, for a much more reasonable price.

JMHO

[CVOfan]

As long as MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, dealers can price them as demand allows. Don't fault them for that. It's the dummies that pay more than retail that prolong the problem.

Personally, I try not to purchase any car or bike new as the first bite is something I am happy to give to someone else. I have found that folks that buy really nice stuff have a tendency to take good care of it and not use it too much because they usually have lots of other really nice stuff that competes for their time and passion.

I am happy to wait until they move on to the next shiny object and purchase a nice used piece of gear, usually with a few mods, for a much more reasonable price.

JMHO

X2............well said.   

[North Georgia Hawg]

As long as MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, dealers can price them as demand allows. Don't fault them for that. It's the dummies that pay more than retail that prolong the problem.

Personally, I try not to purchase any car or bike new as the first bite is something I am happy to give to someone else. I have found that folks that buy really nice stuff have a tendency to take good care of it and not use it too much because they usually have lots of other really nice stuff that competes for their time and passion.

I am happy to wait until they move on to the next shiny object and purchase a nice used piece of gear, usually with a few mods, for a much more reasonable price.

JMHO

Generally that's what I have done in the past. But this time, I wanted it to be new, and I wanted to make it my own from the start. I will probably have this bike until I can't ride anymore... I don't trade bikes very often, and I buy new ones even less often.

[MKW]

I'll always buy new but will work for a "best" price.  GOt a great deal on the CVO and zero interest on my CTS.  I like having nice rides but like keeping a little change in my pocket 

[DBHWT]

It's a buyers market right now....I wouldn't want to be selling anything ...lots of E bay bikes or cars aren't making reserve

[spydglide]

It's a buyers market right now....I wouldn't want to be selling anything ...lots of E bay bikes or cars aren't making reserve

Lots of reserves are set very high  (I've noticed).  spyder

[LovemyCVOgirl]

 I asked my dealer about other dealers asking more than MSRP and he stated that they do this when someone from out of town or out of state wants to purchase than they raise the price.  He said that they try to keep inventory on the new models for their local customers whom are loyal and these customer's never pay more than MSRP.

[kjmessner]

Paid only MSRP in Tacoma just 4 weeks ago (plus tax...)!

[wachuko]

Paid only MSRP in Tacoma just 4 weeks ago (plus tax...)!

I am getting one too! But in August.  Cool!

[TLSSRS]

Generally that's what I have done in the past. But this time, I wanted it to be new, and I wanted to make it my own from the start. I will probably have this bike until I can't ride anymore... I don't trade bikes very often, and I buy new ones even less often.

I agree, i am getting closer & closer to trike time & i really really like the 11 blue cvo ultra. I wanted a new one no one else had messed with. I ride my bikes for years but i still felt like a sucker when i paid a little more than msrp. But in the big picture what the hell does it matter, if you want it & can afford it buy it, if not walk away. Sorry if i offend anyone but the price is set by demand. Here in Oklahoma the demand is high. I know i paid to much but really don't care. I love my blue cvo ( flames & all )

[North Georgia Hawg]

I love my blue cvo ( flames & all )

And THAT'S the REALLY important thing!

[cptdenny]

I was offered $16.5K for my '10 RK with 103" Stage ll and $8K for my '09 Super Glide Custom with 103" Stage lll for a total trade in value of $24.5K.  Just 4 months earlier on a '10 Street Gide CVO in Kyrpto.  I turned that down.

Two weeks ago my same trades on a left over '11 Road Glide Ultra CVO brought me $27K in trade.  That means this same dealer sold me their left over CVO for $2.5K under MSRP! It was also the end of the month, so timing may be in play here as well.

It may be that the RGU CVO might not be in such demand in my area, which works out great for me.  I prefer frame mounted fairings over handlebar mounted ones.

[Jock]

    

[Jock]

       

[cptdenny]

       

Holy Bat-cycle!  Batman.

I wonder what they'll give me for one.  LOL

Trolling fer suckers...

[mrmagloo]

That's insulting!   

You kind of feel like erecting a sign on the other side of the street to warn people.

[Midnight Rider]

That's insulting!   

You kind of feel like erecting a sign on the other side of the street to warn people.

He's been doing that for years...and apparently selling them.  Either the customers that buy them don't have a clue, or they have so much money it really doesn't matter.  Unless you are totally computer illiterate, there is no reason not to be an educated buyer these days, no matter what the product.

[mrmagloo]

Oh I'm well aware of it. Bruce was still alive the last I was at his Destination Daytona location, and his sales dork just gave me the deer in the headlights look when I told them they were #$%& nuts.  Turns out, I was the guy who was nuts, because they are definitely selling them. Crazy chit.

[cptdenny]

That's insulting!   

You kind of feel like erecting a sign on the other side of the street to warn people.

Better yet, just park your CVO across the street, with a FOR SALE sign asking MSRP. 

[mrmagloo]

Better yet, just park your CVO across the street, with a FOR SALE sign asking MSRP. 

If I could get the original MSRP for either of my CVO's, I'd gladly wear a hypocrite plaque on my shirt!   

[dehudson1]

Asking price for a 2012 yellow & black SEUC7 at Destination Daytona last weekend, $10,000 over MSRP.

[Tmcmillan]

Ride out of town.  No one else is doing that.

[TCs2012]

I got mine in TN for MSRP from my local dealer.......not uncommon to see + $2000 - $3000 around the area though. Good luck!

[mark]

You notice that Destination Daytona still has older CVOs still on the floor?  I don't see this at MSRP dealers.  DD had an '11 SERG marked at $44k during Biketoberfest.  Crazy. 

[semperfi81]

Just walk away and DON'T pay those prices Let them sit on the showroom floor

[CVO2012]

Guys you are soooo lucky even to have that extra above the real price
You should see the prices here in Europe and you will know then that you are in heaven.
I bought last march brand new a 2011 softail deluxe for the price of 22000 euros that's equal to 30000 US dollars, and today I bought my 2nd HD, a 2012 CVO street glide, red color and paid 35000 euros, that's equal to 48000 US dollars.
Knowing that I paid for both bikes fully in cash, but it does not make any difference here in Europe, meaning that dealers here don't bother to give some discounts even if you pay in cash.
And the reason for these high prices, is that HD US sell their bikes to Harley Europe for example let's say for the price of 1 euro, then Harley Europe resell them for example to Harley France for the price of 2 euros and this 1 euro difference is the profit they make, then Harley France resell them for the dealers for the price of 3 euros because they also want to make a profit, and lastly, the dealers sell them to us for the price of 4 euros. So imagine the price of the bike started with which price and ended up to you with which price!!!!!
Guys, take me to these dealers you have

[Buy early]

Guys you are soooo lucky even to have that extra above the real price
You should see the prices here in Europe and you will know then that you are in heaven.
I bought last march brand new a 2011 softail deluxe for the price of 22000 euros that's equal to 30000 US dollars, and today I bought my 2nd HD, a 2012 CVO street glide, red color and paid 35000 euros, that's equal to 48000 US dollars.
Knowing that I paid for both bikes fully in cash, but it does not make any difference here in Europe, meaning that dealers here don't bother to give some discounts even if you pay in cash.
And the reason for these high prices, is that HD US sell their bikes to Harley Europe for example let's say for the price of 1 euro, then Harley Europe resell them for example to Harley France for the price of 2 euros and this 1 euro difference is the profit they make, then Harley France resell them for the dealers for the price of 3 euros because they also want to make a profit, and lastly, the dealers sell them to us for the price of 4 euros. So imagine the price of the bike started with which price and ended up to you with which price!!!!!
Guys, take me to these dealers you have

Does HD have a program where you can come to the US, do a factory tour, buy a bike, drive it around and then have it shipped back to your home? Porsche used to have a program like that when the dollar was high. I had some friends that flew over to Germany, enjoyed a great trip around Europe in their new Porsche and then had it shipped home. The savings more than paid for the trip.

[geezerglide]

Guys you are soooo lucky even to have that extra above the real price
You should see the prices here in Europe and you will know then that you are in heaven.
I bought last march brand new a 2011 softail deluxe for the price of 22000 euros that's equal to 30000 US dollars, and today I bought my 2nd HD, a 2012 CVO street glide, red color and paid 35000 euros, that's equal to 48000 US dollars.
Knowing that I paid for both bikes fully in cash, but it does not make any difference here in Europe, meaning that dealers here don't bother to give some discounts even if you pay in cash.
And the reason for these high prices, is that HD US sell their bikes to Harley Europe for example let's say for the price of 1 euro, then Harley Europe resell them for example to Harley France for the price of 2 euros and this 1 euro difference is the profit they make, then Harley France resell them for the dealers for the price of 3 euros because they also want to make a profit, and lastly, the dealers sell them to us for the price of 4 euros. So imagine the price of the bike started with which price and ended up to you with which price!!!!!
Guys, take me to these dealers you have

Almost identical to Canada.

A CVO ULTRA out the door is apprx. CDN $47,000 - $50,000. That is why a lot of us buy HDs in the US. With the Canadian Dollar at almost par depending on the day we get a lot better value wen buying in the US.

geezerglide

[CVO2012]

well, unluckily, Harley Davidson US has their rules which is as foreigner, i can't buy from US a brand new bike and ship it to other country. They have no problem if i want to buy a used one, but not a new one. This is of course to protect their business outside the US, Thats why even now many people can't buy even parts of HD for example from EBAY because HD US had applied a regulations over the dealers who sell their HD parts over the net
Now these Dealers can't ships outside the US.
But the only way for a Non US citizen to buy a brand new bike from the US market is to let someone buy it for him who has a US permenant address and this someone, sell it personally to him. I know many did that.
Well, this is Life

[LovemyCVOgirl]

well, unluckily, Harley Davidson US has their rules which is as foreigner, i can't buy from US a brand new bike and ship it to other country. They have no problem if i want to buy a used one, but not a new one. This is of course to protect their business outside the US, Thats why not many people can't buy parts of HD for example from EBAY because HD US had applied a regulations over the dealers who sell their HD parts over the net
Now these Dealers can't ships outside the US.
But the only way for a Non US citizen to buy a brand new bike from the US market is to let someone buy it for him who has a US permenant address and this someone, sell it personally to him. I know many did that.
Well, this is Life

That's a bunch of crap!  You send me the money and I will buy you a new mc. !!!