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Title: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: rscamarochad on August 02, 2008, 10:31:13 PM
I have a new FXDSE2, and I gotta say I am more of a riding kinda guy than I am a cleaning kinda guy.  I am scared Sh****** to take a hose to my bike and wash it, so I have been using MOCO Quick Detailer,  Amonia Free Glass Foam, Turtle Wax Ice and lots and lots of polishing trying to keep everything looking mint.  I really don't have the money right now to drop $400 on a master blaster to dry the bike following a wash, and frankly I can see no other way to pull off a successful wash but blasting the water off when your finished.   Am I being overly cautious?  I have been super super careful not to scratch up my chrome and paint.  I always use either MOCO detailing cloths or microfiber towels, and I always try to blow off the dust prior to using any kind of quick detailer, even still I can already see fine swirls on some of the chrome pieces, and next to the ignition switch I have one sizeable scratch that almost looks like a gouge, and God only knows how that got there.  I have already had to use some paint swirl remover on the right and left sides of the gas tank nearest the seat, because I discovered that my jeans have evidently been rubbing that area when I ride(I have since adjusted how I ride).  I may just be a perfectionist, and I know my bike will age eventually especially given how much I ride it,  I just want to make that aging process as graceful as possible.  Is the way to go washing a bike with water or using a quick detailer?  I got caught in a 'bottom fell out' rain storm once and it took me almost a week with quick detailer and soft cloths to restore the shine to my bike.   I am going freaking nuts trying to keep this thing clean.  HELP ME PLEASE SEASONED RIDERS!  I'm a newbie and the way things are going now I am going to go crazy keeping this bike clean.
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: spydglide on August 02, 2008, 10:41:24 PM
I've found the only way to get a bike really clean is to wash it with soap & water.....just don't spray the water under direct pressure into certain areas (like electrics/electronics/etc.) and dry off with a towel will be fine.  Riding on a wet/greasy road is hard to recover from any other way than a washing.....then detail to your heart's content from there.  (see the Glare thread to deal with the swirls, etc.)  :P har!  spyder
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Keats on August 02, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
I've found the only way to get a bike really clean is to wash it with soap & water.....just don't spray the water under direct pressure into certain areas (like electrics/electronics/etc.) and dry off with a towel will be fine.  Riding on a wet/greasy road is hard to recover from any other way than a washing.....then detail to your heart's content from there.  (see the Glare thread to deal with the swirls, etc.)  :P har!  spyder


I fire up the leaf blower to get water off bike..........seems to work pretty good

detailer works good on paint but to really clean areas like suspension and brakes you need to wash
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: REGGAB on August 03, 2008, 12:00:22 AM
Just wash it with a good soap like Glare Ultra Wash and plenty of low pressure water, like one of of those garden nozzles with a shower setting.  Your machine will be fine.  Think about it...........if you're skittish of using a hose, you better pray you never get caught in the rain.............and that will happen.   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: SERK3 on August 03, 2008, 07:55:17 AM
Last time i washed mine was about a month ago when we came back from the NC HOG RALLY, We hit a couple of rain showers, But i use a quick detailer just about everytime i ride it. The bike will be 2 years old next month and has 10,900 miles on it and looks like it just came off of showroom floor. I done the samething with my low rider it was 2 1/2 years old with 15,000 miles on it. I wax it 3 or 4 times a year, before and after we go to the beach. Everything i use is by Meguiar's, Gold Class wash, Tech-Wax NXT and ULTIMATE DETAILER.







Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 03, 2008, 10:51:15 AM
I've found the only way to get a bike really clean is to wash it with soap & water.....just don't spray the water under direct pressure into certain areas (like electrics/electronics/etc.) and dry off with a towel will be fine.  Riding on a wet/greasy road is hard to recover from any other way than a washing.....then detail to your heart's content from there.  (see the Glare thread to deal with the swirls, etc.)  :P har!  spyder

yeah - question about this.  Got caught in a down pour two weeks or so ago, so I did a total, under the fenders, undercarriage total wash with the Mr. Clean sprayer .

Anyone have the HD Temp guage/dip stick?  And if so, does the condensation ever come out it once it gets wet?

Normally I use two buckets, one with soap, one with clean water and work my way down, didn't this time. :(
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: FNGw/08SERK on August 03, 2008, 10:59:33 AM
yeah - question about this.  Got caught in a down pour two weeks or so ago, so I did a total, under the fenders, undercarriage total wash with the Mr. Clean sprayer .

Anyone have the HD Temp guage/dip stick?  And if so, does the condensation ever come out it once it gets wet?

Normally I use two buckets, one with soap, one with clean water and work my way down, didn't this time. :(
Just remove the rear screws and pull the cover  ;)
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 03, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Just remove the rear screws and pull the cover  ;)

thanks, guess you did the same?
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: FNGw/08SERK on August 03, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
thanks, guess you did the same?
I did, as a caution I suggest being as gentle as possible with those big mits of yours. The solder joints are fragile!!  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: REGGAB on August 03, 2008, 04:41:49 PM
yeah - question about this.  Got caught in a down pour two weeks or so ago, so I did a total, under the fenders, undercarriage total wash with the Mr. Clean sprayer .

Anyone have the HD Temp guage/dip stick?  And if so, does the condensation ever come out it once it gets wet?

Normally I use two buckets, one with soap, one with clean water and work my way down, didn't this time. :(

I used to.  Gave up on it, tho'.  About three months ago it started popping out everytime I'd snatch the throttle.  First time it happened, it made a HUGE mess.............oil burned onto the mufflers, rear wheel/tire/brake covered in oil, etc.  Finally gave up and reinstalled the stock filler plug/dipstick.  Ever since I installed the JAGG Oil Cooler, I don't really worry or care about my engine oil temperature.
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 03, 2008, 05:48:41 PM
I did, as a caution I suggest being as gentle as possible with those big mits of yours. The solder joints are fragile!!  :2vrolijk_21:

yeah, yours are petite?
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Fired00d on August 03, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
yeah - question about this.  Got caught in a down pour two weeks or so ago, so I did a total, under the fenders, undercarriage total wash with the Mr. Clean sprayer .

Anyone have the HD Temp guage/dip stick?  And if so, does the condensation ever come out it once it gets wet?

Normally I use two buckets, one with soap, one with clean water and work my way down, didn't this time. :(
Sean,
I used to have a problem w/my analog temp dipstick on my Fatboy getting condensation in it after washing. I ended up just sticking a baggie over it w/a rubber band to prevent as much water as I could from getting in there in the first place.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 03, 2008, 06:39:51 PM
Sean,
I used to have a problem w/my analog temp dipstick on my Fatboy getting condensation in it after washing. I ended up just sticking a baggie over it w/a rubber band to prevent as much water as I could from getting in there in the first place.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Good idea- hate learning the hard way, but seems to be my most common methodology...
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 05, 2008, 06:33:09 AM
Just remove the rear screws and pull the cover  ;)

Howie, mine was just about dried out and the slight chance of rain turned into a downpour yesterday...bike was soaked.

While washing it last night, I found the hex heads under the rubber washer - tried 3/32 and 5/64th Allen wrench...no joy.

Anyone know what size they are??  Since none of the sae fit, guessing metric?

I also noticed condensation under my Neutral Light and Turn Signals Indicators on my dash - are these bikes that water sensitive that having them rained on does this crap??
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Hoist! on August 05, 2008, 07:29:31 AM
Howie, mine was just about dried out and the slight chance of rain turned into a downpour yesterday...bike was soaked.

While washing it last night, I found the hex heads under the rubber washer - tried 3/32 and 5/64th Allen wrench...no joy.

Anyone know what size they are??  Since none of the sae fit, guessing metric?

I also noticed condensation under my Neutral Light and Turn Signals Indicators on my dash - are these bikes that water sensitive that having them rained on does this crap??

I reember mine being small Phillips head, I think? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Hoist! 8)
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Sean M Cary on August 05, 2008, 07:31:13 AM
I reember mine being small Phillips head, I think? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Hoist! 8)

Wow, the looked like Allen Head...  Guess my eyes are getting tired.   :-[
Will try that tonight.
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: LRebel on August 05, 2008, 11:30:49 AM
Ok, I have heard all the stories about how you should never spray water on your bike and most definitely never take it to a high pressure car wash.  Well as many have already said, you pretty much have to give it a good wash if you get caught out in the rain.

I have been riding for 34 years and have had more bikes than I can remember - all major manufactures.  Where I live the water is pretty hard and we don't have a water softener - I have always taken my bikes to the car wash.  Nice soft water and they also have that "spot-free" rinse.  I can back away from the bike enough to keep the water pressure from being a problem - especially around gauges, electronic stuff, and bearings.  If I have been riding in rain and the bike is pretty nasty, I will blast the motor pretty good, but am still careful not to apply high pressure to sensitive areas.  Never had a problem. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: spydglide on August 05, 2008, 04:26:28 PM
Ok, I have heard all the stories about how you should never spray water on your bike and most definitely never take it to a high pressure car wash.  Well as many have already said, you pretty much have to give it a good wash if you get caught out in the rain.

I have been riding for 34 years and have had more bikes than I can remember - all major manufactures.  Where I live the water is pretty hard and we don't have a water softener - I have always taken my bikes to the car wash.  Nice soft water and they also have that "spot-free" rinse.  I can back away from the bike enough to keep the water pressure from being a problem - especially around gauges, electronic stuff, and bearings.  If I have been riding in rain and the bike is pretty nasty, I will blast the motor pretty good, but am still careful not to apply high pressure to sensitive areas.  Never had a problem. :2vrolijk_21:
I used to have a Honda that I took to the car washes on a reg. basis.......never owned a American or British bike that could withstand them.  :nervous: spyder
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: johnchalker on August 06, 2008, 08:46:40 AM
The only way is to wash off and then spend as much time detailing as you like.I quite like detailing,i put on the radio in the garage and clean away.I have found an attachment to put on the end of my air compresser, this blows any water out of the enclosed gaps.
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: Spike on August 06, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
The only thing that scares me about quick detailing is if the bike is fairly dirty and you begin wiping it off you can rub the dirt that collects on the rag on the paint and cause scratches. Happened to me once now I would rather wash it. At least that way the water loosens the dirt particles up first.
Title: Re: Washing vs. quick detailer
Post by: sawyerghost on August 06, 2008, 11:11:48 AM
I probably wash more often than necessary, but I enjoy having a clean bike whenever I have the opportunity to take a ride.
I do as has been mentioned, get a firehose nozzle, delivers a gentle stream where you want it, and also gives pressure where needed.
After a good wash, using a microfiber wash mitten, and an anti-spot detergent, I take the air hose to the bike starting top down to the wheels. If you do this make sure to have a plastic tip on air hoze trigger, so as not to scratch anything.
Then using a Microfiber drying towel, get the rest
I could say more but I think you get the idea.
 :2vrolijk_21:
This cleaning without taking off bags, and putting on a lift takes me total time of around 30-40 minutes.