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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2006, 02:43:19 PM »

Dawg,
I have found 2 types which one would be better



[highlight]The Fueling Super Pump
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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2006, 03:34:53 PM »

Aussie...you want the Super Pump.  When ordering, also order the Feuling Lifters.  Wally's Cycle World  http://www.wallyscycleworld.com/index.asp is cheaper than most dealer's cost number.  Pump and lifters both $294.00 including shipping.
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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2006, 04:39:06 PM »

Thanks BLM777,

But this is all I could find there   $374.00


[highlight]FUELING PRODUCTS
IN STOCK!
SPECIAL BUY!
FUELING SUPER PUMPS - ** $299.50
FUELING LIFTERS ******** $74.50!!
FUELING CAM SUPPORT PLATE ** $279.95!![/highlight]



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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 04:42:20 PM »

Mike, you may want to give them a call.  I've found that frequently their web prices don't match their "specials" on any given day.  About 60 days ago, I bought 3 sets at the price I posted earlier.  They may have taken their special down by now.  Good luck and if that doesn't work, let me know and I'll make a couple of calls for you and see if we can beat the price.
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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 05:09:11 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2006, 08:57:20 PM »

Damn you guys are quick!!!!! Yep Aussie that is what you are looking for. I think the Race Pump is a bit toooooo much for the street. Talk about overkill.

Not to get off topic here but has anyone tried the Fueling Cam Support Plate??????


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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2006, 09:34:24 PM »

Is this Fueling Pump mandatory, or an option you shouldnt pass on?
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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2006, 10:35:37 PM »

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[highlight]Not to get off topic here but has anyone tried the Fueling Cam Support Plate??????[/highlight]






Dawg,

That was my next question to you, at that price they must acheive somthing!


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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2006, 10:49:35 PM »

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Is this Fueling Pump mandatory, or an option you shouldnt pass on?


Some oil pump is mandatory if you're changing the cams to replace tensioners that have already spread debris through the oil pump.  Mine (almost certainly) won't be that bad from what I've seen in the oil filter.  It is, however, an option that's already going to be apart in your hands and hard to justify not doing as a result since the Feuling unit really is a better part.

As for the "Race Pump" or the Cam Plate; well... in a truly heavy duty application where "go" matters for everything and looks don't matter at all you do what you can.  Period.  The Race Pump and Cam Plate are red though.  And they'll look like crap against our silver motors  ;D .  Since they're really for a level of abuse greater than everyone here but Hubbard might dish out we can probably live without the red tumors on the side of the motor.
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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2006, 11:24:32 PM »

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Is this Fueling Pump mandatory, or an option you shouldnt pass on?

I have done many cam swaps and as long as the pump and lifters are in good shape they usually will work just fine. The lifters have rollers so the usually don't get much wear on a low mileage motor. The fueling pump does provide better scavenging and increased pressure.

Regardless of a pump change or not the Baisley bypass spring is a must do. It will increase you pressure at idle and across the RPM range by about 15%. It is only about $15.00 and very easy to install while your doing the cam swap.

I attached the install sheet for the spring for reference. They can be ordered over the phone only.
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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2006, 11:48:41 PM »

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the Baisley bypass spring is a must do.

If someone is ordering the new Zippers cams it should at least be noted that Zippers has a similar product.  Can be ordered at the same time the cams are purchased so separate order and freight is avoided.  I think it was even a couple bucks cheaper (though that's not the issue).  Jim's right though, just another piece that's in your hands at the time and can be improved for short money.  In fact from the phone conversations I've had with them the reps at Zippers just about won't sell you the cams without sneaking this little bugger in as part of the order.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2006, 05:45:34 AM »

Twolane if I remember correctly the high pressure spring kit is 9 bucks from Zippers. Very easy to install and a must if your not changing the pump. As far as I am concerned if I have the cam plate out of a bike the Fueling pump and lifters are going in. The lifters also help oil flow to the top end of the motor(rockers) which will help you motor last longer and run cooler. Just my opinion though. It is cheap insurance for your 30 grand bike!!!!!


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Re: zippers cams
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2006, 07:57:19 AM »

Is this fueling pump going to be a warranty issue. I have 5 years left and my dealer is willing to do the zippers cams with no effect on my warranty. Is this product going to be a sitting duck for a HD warranty inspector?
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2006, 10:52:27 AM »

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Twolane if I remember correctly the high pressure spring kit is 9 bucks from Zippers. Very easy to install and a must if your not changing the pump. As far as I am concerned if I have the cam plate out of a bike the Fueling pump and lifters are going in. The lifters also help oil flow to the top end of the motor(rockers) which will help you motor last longer and run cooler. Just my opinion though. It is cheap insurance for your 30 grand bike!!!!!


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Agreed Mike.  They're going to be off in your hands anyway.  Granted, rollers don't care what cam their own so they don't have to be replaced.  But they're cheap enough it's difficult not to justify starting new again there when you can make an improvement in the process.
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2006, 10:57:48 AM »

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Is this fueling pump going to be a warranty issue.

It's Harley.  Non-sanctioned air in the tires or unapproved electricity in the battery might be a warranty issue if the service writer or manager you're dealing with is a pinhead or an asshole.  The pump is an improvement, so it shouldn't be an issue.  Obviously if the new pump should fail and the motor gets trashed as a result than the new pump is to blame and there would be no warranty on the total failure.  This is both as it should be and fair.  But if the presumed failure is not caused by low oil pressure coming from a failed pump the rest of the internal engine warranty should be in tact (unless the pinhead at the counter says otherwise just because he can).
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