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Dacuda

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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 04:57:03 PM »
Thanks for all the recommendations, I like the torque of the 585s and like the power right off the line, I see that the 259s are good all the way through but I'm not worried about top speed so I think I will go with the 585s, basically I'm not doing any head work at the moment other than doing the .030 gasket so I'll see how it goes for now, I'm sure Nick at Trask Performance here in Phoenix or Steve at Fullsac Performance will be able to really tweak it on the Dyno
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 09:58:29 PM »
Quote from: Dacuda on March 21, 2018, 04:57:03 PM
Thanks for all the recommendations, I like the torque of the 585s and like the power right off the line, I see that the 259s are good all the way through but I'm not worried about top speed so I think I will go with the 585s, basically I'm not doing any head work at the moment other than doing the .030 gasket so I'll see how it goes for now, I'm sure Nick at Trask Performance here in Phoenix or Steve at Fullsac Performance will be able to really tweak it on the Dyno
Think you will be happy with that route
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 10:06:07 PM »
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 10:09:30 PM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on March 21, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
Think you will be happy with that route

Steve @ Fullsac is your man> Think you will be very happy with that build,. His DX pipe works very well. Two of my other buds run that pipe , happy campers..
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2018, 07:58:44 PM »
Quote from: Texas 103 on March 21, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
Amen!

When he posted that sheet at first glance I thought it was mine, then I saw the torque numbers.....lol
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2018, 01:50:00 PM »
ok I give, where can I get this 117 kit? I know a lot of guys sell it but sounds like you guys know your stuff.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2018, 12:03:02 AM »
Quote from: stevieb1973 on March 31, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
ok I give, where can I get this 117 kit? I know a lot of guys sell it but sounds like you guys know your stuff.

My suggestion would be Boardtracker HD. You can order it online from them and they are a 20% off dealer.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2018, 12:02:05 PM »
Ordered the 117 kit and the 585 cams. I am not doing any head work. My question is if a .030 head gasket is too much for the cams, or do I play it safe and use the gasket from the kit? And if I do use the .030 gasket will there be a problem with the perfect fit pushrods? I don’t want to have a problem with detonation come summertime.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2018, 02:05:00 PM »
Quote from: motor1 on April 01, 2018, 12:02:05 PM
Ordered the 117 kit and the 585 cams. I am not doing any head work. My question is if a .030 head gasket is too much for the cams, or do I play it safe and use the gasket from the kit? And if I do use the .030 gasket will there be a problem with the perfect fit pushrods? I don’t want to have a problem with detonation come summertime.

You will be fine with the 585 and the .030 gasket. Get the bike tuned by a pro and summertime will not be a problem for you. As for the perfect fit, someone else will chime in, but I think you will still be just fine as you are only changing the height by .010. Not sure if you are looking at a home build or shop build but would strongly recommend that you 0 deck your cyls while your in that deep. No reason not to get all you can get and prevent detonation
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2018, 01:28:01 PM »
Just had mine done and used the.030 gasket, and everything else that cam with the kit, you will be fine.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2018, 06:54:24 PM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on April 01, 2018, 02:05:00 PM
You will be fine with the 585 and the .030 gasket. Get the bike tuned by a pro and summertime will not be a problem for you. As for the perfect fit, someone else will chime in, but I think you will still be just fine as you are only changing the height by .010. Not sure if you are looking at a home build or shop build but would strongly recommend that you 0 deck your cyls while your in that deep. No reason not to get all you can get and prevent detonation

Have the .030 gasket, SE 585 cams , Heads shaved .018, zero decked. 10:57.1  Static compression, 9.96:1 corrected. Had to run some 91 going through OK. last July, no problem. The tune is the key!, Find a good tuner!!  Like David mentioned , Zero deck cyls and .030 gasket is cheap horsepower. Squish is one of  the  other keys, as close to .030 net as you can. 
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2018, 07:51:55 PM »
Quote from: motor1 on April 01, 2018, 12:02:05 PM
Ordered the 117 kit and the 585 cams. I am not doing any head work. My question is if a .030 head gasket is too much for the cams, or do I play it safe and use the gasket from the kit? And if I do use the .030 gasket will there be a problem with the perfect fit pushrods? I don’t want to have a problem with detonation come summertime.
Will work fine. Compression is still low due to fat squish. The deck height is low on these 117 and 110 bolt on combinations IME. Cylinders need to be cut to fix that.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2018, 06:50:37 AM »
I went with 585 cams and everything else in kit. I dont have dyno sheet yet to post but will very soon.
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2018, 09:47:00 AM »
Quote from: stratplexi on April 04, 2018, 06:50:37 AM
I went with 585 cams and everything else in kit. I dont have dyno sheet yet to post but will very soon.

Good deal, think you'll like it..
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Re: 110 t0 117 259 Cam vs 585 Cam
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2018, 09:48:30 AM »
Quote from: HD Street Performance on April 02, 2018, 07:51:55 PM
Will work fine. Compression is still low due to fat squish. The deck height is low on these 117 and 110 bolt on combinations IME. Cylinders need to be cut to fix that.
Mne was.009 and .011 in the hole, fixed that real quick
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