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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2018, 04:07:38 PM »

They offered to knock off $1000 if I purchase.  End of month guess need sale.   Still overpriced thou. 
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2018, 08:04:39 PM »

They offered to knock off $1000 if I purchase.  End of month guess need sale.   Still overpriced thou.

FYI - the mark up on new motorcycles at Harley is 20%. On a $44k bike that's about $8800. If they are offering $1000 off you should counteroffer.

Best of luck.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2018, 09:40:55 PM »

FYI - the mark up on new motorcycles at Harley is 20%. On a $44k bike that's about $8800. If they are offering $1000 off you should counteroffer.

Best of luck.
Yes I know there is a big markup on them. But since it’s the Anniversary CVO Limited I don’t think they will budge much since only getting 1 of them.  But it has been sitting there for almost 2 weeks now. 
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2018, 10:20:02 PM »

I had a 2016 Limited CVO that I traded in on my 18 Limited CVO Anniversary.  Prior to trading, I read some of the horror stories of the M8 engine sumping, and was concerned that I might get one that sumps.  Another concern that I had was further depreciation on the 2016 model and any potential problems it might have with additional mileage put on it.  A lot of the good that I read about the M8 made me believe that I would leave the 2018 stock if I traded.  Also, I liked the color of the 2018 better than the 2016.  Therefore, I figured that if I traded, I could either buy an extended warranty from Harley if I thought I needed the extended warranty or I would simply trade the 2018 in on the latest and greatest at that time if the 2018 wasn't reliable.  I brought the 2018 home on April 21 and have put 1500 miles on it so far.  I would have been riding it more, but where I live, there has been so much rain the past month and it is continuing to rain.  I like the 2018 a lot better than my 2016.  As far as problems on the 2018, I have defective TPMS sensors that are being replaced under warranty.  During the 2 years that I owned the 2016, I did not have any problems out of it, but I only put 9800 miles on it because I rode other bikes more during that time. 

For my 2016, I paid, MSRP less $3,000 discount plus freight and tax.  I paid MSRP plus freight, setup and tax for the 2018.  I found 1 other 2018 Limited CVO Anniversary in an adjoining state for MSRP plus fees, but it wasn't suppose to be delivered to that dealer until June.  If the dealer is offering $1,000 off the 2018 model, that is a very nice incentive because I have read most of the 2018 CVO's have been selling for MSRP or over MSRP. 

Good luck with your decision.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2018, 10:36:37 PM »

MSRP is 43,949 Plus $800 freight setup = 44,749. So basically I’m getting freight/setup no charge.  I may offer them 2k off MSRP and see what happens. Tomorrow is end of the month. 
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2018, 12:20:57 AM »

MSRP is 43,949 Plus $800 freight setup = 44,949. So basically I’m getting freight/setup no charge.  I may offer them 2k off MSRP and see what happens. Tomorrow is end of the month.

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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2018, 01:54:41 AM »

2017 CVO Limited.  Yeah, best HD I have ever owned, by far.
Same here!
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2018, 04:39:21 PM »

Can’t make up mind about this bike.  My concern is comfort level I’m 6’4”
and coming from a RG which has tons of room to a batwing fairing which seems crowded to me.  I was gonna change bars anyways.  I’m just not sure how fit on it after coming off a RG.  I need to test ride one again since it’s been awhile. 
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2018, 05:00:42 PM »

Im 6'2" and works fine for me in stock setup. You might have to do some modifications to bars. Batwings by nature feel a bit more cozy than the sharks and I've owned both. I prefer the batwings for some reason now but enjoyed the road glides when I had them.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2018, 08:37:37 PM »

Im 6'2" and works fine for me in stock setup. You might have to do some modifications to bars. Batwings by nature feel a bit more cozy than the sharks and I've owned both. I prefer the batwings for some reason now but enjoyed the road glides when I had them.

So yours has the 114 or 117 motor.  How does it run. Have you done any upgrades or is it stock. I’m getting about $1500 back of MSRP for the 2018 Anniversay Limited CVO.  I’ve had some batwings in past as well. It can’t remember if I was crowded on it. They said would let me test ride it when I get back to town to see if would be ok.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2018, 07:40:49 PM »

114, bonestock with Rinehart slipons. Upgraded the stereo, swapped the whips for billet antenna's and that's it. Has plenty of go, don't really see any need to mess with it. 6000 trouble free miles so far, taken a couple of long trips with it. Ran it 85-90 mph for about 600 miles on one and no issues of any kind.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2018, 10:28:55 PM »

Made my decision to not purchase the Anniversary Limited. Reason is I just upgraded my RG Ultra to Stage 4 back in November 17, put 14" bars on. All items couldn't be used on the M8 motor anyways. Plus I'm tired of paying HD over priced bikes & then in 2 years they loose almost 1/2 there value... I'm more comfortable on the RG anyways...Plus I don't ride often enough due to work obligations.
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2018, 09:35:09 AM »

Made my decision to not purchase the Anniversary Limited. Reason is I just upgraded my RG Ultra to Stage 4 back in November 17, put 14" bars on. All items couldn't be used on the M8 motor anyways. Plus I'm tired of paying HD over priced bikes & then in 2 years they loose almost 1/2 there value... I'm more comfortable on the RG anyways...Plus I don't ride often enough due to work obligations.

All valid points and smart decision in my opinion.

My bike is coming up on 6 model years old but it still looks like new and runs perfect. I occasionally think about updating to a new model but I'm not inclined to splurge for a way overpriced unreliable motorcycle. (Not to mention I spent another $12k to get my 2013 CVO where I was completely happy with it since the MOCO fell short in so many area's including performance, suspension, lighting, comfort, technology, etc).

Actually the new BMW K1600B being talked about all over the internet is very alluring. Its proven reliable, fast, good looking with all the technology you could ever want for ~$20k less at time of purchase. Even the new Honda Goldwing is creeping back into the picture with some Harley riders..... Both are a much better machine for a lot less money. I guess I just don't understand Harley economics.

IMHO the MOCO needs to step up their game and deliver true value at their price points or lower them aggressively otherwise they'll be the next iconic brand like Blockbuster or Kodak where the game and the consumer passes them. Introducing dozens of new models won't change their ultimate plight if they don't deliver quality and long term value.

Sadly they continue to overprice and under deliver which has never been a recipe for long term success in any business.  :soapbox:

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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2018, 10:02:35 AM »

But not all M8 are sumping.  Friend of mine has a M8 107 RG Ultra with 12,000 miles and no problems.  Seems like it’s just an isolated problem with some bikes.  Who knows.  We only here of the problem child’s on here.

truth is  you have not heard vey much  I would bet. not everyone who owns a m8 is on a forum saying how great they are , nor are they on a forum saying how many issues there are  it is what it really is .  isolated issues.  I rather doubt as isolated as you seem to think. not that its huge %, but hen I am not having access to real numbers either.  many m8 have had multiple issues and that's simple fact.   denial is not a fix for any of the issues.  the m8 has issues and these people who own those bike are not really seeing justice  if they get another so called up dated  or what ever and it fails again, and again they should be compensated for the trouble  in full , 
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Re: 2018 or not
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2018, 12:46:13 PM »

truth is  you have not heard vey much  I would bet. not everyone who owns a m8 is on a forum saying how great they are , nor are they on a forum saying how many issues there are  it is what it really is .  isolated issues.  I rather doubt as isolated as you seem to think. not that its huge %, but hen I am not having access to real numbers either.  many m8 have had multiple issues and that's simple fact.   denial is not a fix for any of the issues.  the m8 has issues and these people who own those bike are not really seeing justice  if they get another so called up dated  or what ever and it fails again, and again they should be compensated for the trouble  in full ,

Sumping may not have happened to every M8; however, do you really want to take the chance with spending $25-45k and then rolling the dice?  Not me.
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