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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2018, 08:28:29 AM »

Hi Dave
I believe the piston oilers leaking are the main issue. The smaller motors seem to deal with it. The larger bore creates more vacuum and obviously upsets the scavenge pump when all the right conditions line up. Nobody really knows? The common denominators are big bore and leaking piston oilers. My 120 is still going strong. The only mod I did was sealing the oilers. And I have the oldest oil pump ever made in it. I would hold off on any big bore plans until more is learned and proven.

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Thanks for the information Steve.  Glad your 120 is still running strong.  Hopefully this will be sorted out soon.  Very interesting about the piston oilers, you mentioned them a long time ago.
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2018, 05:57:23 PM »

looks good, Steve.

I am taking your advice and holding off on my 124 build. But I am still going to collect more parts for the build!
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2018, 11:10:07 PM »

Rep from Harley today swears they have found "the fix". Don't know what that is as I wouldn't let him explain when he tried. he told me I would be the first in the country to get it, yea right...
Will be interesting to see when others get it
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2018, 11:38:09 PM »

Rep from Harley today swears they have found "the fix". Don't know what that is as I wouldn't let him explain when he tried. he told me I would be the first in the country to get it, yea right...
Will be interesting to see when others get it
Hopefully they got it sorted out. There is a bunch of us sitting tight until they do...
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2018, 07:38:27 AM »

Rep from Harley today swears they have found "the fix". Don't know what that is as I wouldn't let him explain when he tried. he told me I would be the first in the country to get it, yea right...
Will be interesting to see when others get it
Just tell him a guy on the East Coast already got that "first to get it"
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2018, 08:20:24 AM »

Just tell him a guy on the East Coast already got that "first to get it"

Heatwave with the newest engine cases right?
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2018, 09:01:38 AM »

Rep from Harley today swears they have found "the fix". Don't know what that is as I wouldn't let him explain when he tried. he told me I would be the first in the country to get it, yea right...
Will be interesting to see when others get it

Does that mean they are admitting there actually is a problem?

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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2018, 09:43:35 AM »

LOL.
The only "problem" they have acknowledged is that there are a number of riders who are deliberately misusing their product resulting in engine damage.
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2018, 11:28:06 AM »

LOL.
The only "problem" they have acknowledged is that there are a number of riders who are deliberately misusing their product resulting in engine damage.

They think people are intentionally getting stranded in the middle of BFE? For the first time in my life I'm trailering to Montana this year, and taking a back up bike.

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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2018, 02:54:29 PM »

Steve, I like that wheel chock system!
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2018, 10:02:03 PM »

Steve, I like that wheel chock system!

Thanks, I just finished welding up the second one.

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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2018, 10:07:54 PM »

LOL.
The only "problem" they have acknowledged is that there are a number of riders who are deliberately misusing their product resulting in engine damage.


They need to be reminded that by the rev limit and other parametric limits written in to the ECM Harley itself defines the limits of "misuse" any rider can apply to the motorcycle.  Within those limits it's Harley's problem.
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2018, 11:59:06 PM »

Does that mean they are admitting there actually is a problem?

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He did admit on stage 3 and 4's when driven extremely hard they have on occasion seen sumping and you can imagine my response to that. He also said they have seen no sumping on stock through stage 2 which you can also imagine my response to that as well. He inferred that this new change is what will be coming on the 19's and that they had done around 15 around the country already (maybe Heatwave is one?) for bikes with multiple sumps and not one had come back yet.
I suggested he might look into a career in politics!
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2018, 01:40:03 AM »

Rep from Harley today swears they have found "the fix". Don't know what that is as I wouldn't let him explain when he tried. he told me I would be the first in the country to get it, yea right...
Will be interesting to see when others get it

He did admit on stage 3 and 4's when driven extremely hard they have on occasion seen sumping and you can imagine my response to that. He also said they have seen no sumping on stock through stage 2 which you can also imagine my response to that as well. He inferred that this new change is what will be coming on the 19's and that they had done around 15 around the country already (maybe Heatwave is one?) for bikes with multiple sumps and not one had come back yet.
I suggested he might look into a career in politics!


So yours was/is first AND they'd done 15 already?  He's not a very good politician.  The good ones lie much better than that.
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Re: 2017 124" dyno test. 133 HP 142 Tq!
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2018, 11:37:02 AM »

Thanks, I just finished welding up the second one.

Steve@fullsac.com

I built something almost identical for a buddy on mine, difference being, his trailer had aluminum L-track welded to the floor. (His trailer was all aluminum construction.)

Sadly, I am horrible about taking pictures of my projects, bikes, cars and family!
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