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[hard10]

I've been asked about Bluetooth alternatives and thought this information would be of value:

http://www.cellset.com/harley.html

http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/motorcyclekits/parrotsk4000/#title4

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IMC-HS-H40U

http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=75

http://www.hmhd.com/webstore/viewiteminfo.asp?sku=98272-09VM&PID=helmets&PIDName=Helmets&DID=MotorClothes&Back=&aspname=viewprodclothes

http://www.cardowireless.com/

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

http://www.jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=24

AJ

[SBB]

I've been asked about Bluetooth alternatives and thought this information would be of value:

http://www.cellset.com/harley.html

http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/motorcyclekits/parrotsk4000/#title4

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IMC-HS-H40U

http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=75

http://www.hmhd.com/webstore/viewiteminfo.asp?sku=98272-09VM&PID=helmets&PIDName=Helmets&DID=MotorClothes&Back=&aspname=viewprodclothes

http://www.cardowireless.com/

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

http://www.jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=24

AJ

AJ

I looked at the above and didn't see anything that rang my bell.
Your a lot smarter than me on this stuff so what do you recommend for a simple, reliable sytem that will allow me to link the phone to the Zumo and the Zumo to the helmet and retain use of the cb and intercom. I know, I'm not asking for much!
After my adventure with the Nolans I have decided to wait till technology catches up and gets it right!

SBB

[hard10]

AJ

I looked at the above and didn't see anything that rang my bell.
Your a lot smarter than me on this stuff so what do you recommend for a simple, reliable sytem that will allow me to link the phone to the Zumo and the Zumo to the helmet and retain use of the cb and intercom. I know, I'm not asking for much!
After my adventure with the Nolans I have decided to wait till technology catches up and gets it right!

SBB

Therein lies the problem Chip. As it stands, there is no product on the market today that will allow the use of all of the features you want.

[RickC]

I've been on a similar search for a while now... with mixed results.

I bought the Cardo ScalaRider (not the new Q2, but the original). It worked pretty well with my cell phone and for communication with the BSR. Well, that is, it worked okay until we got soaked in the rain a couple of days. The first day, it cut out after a while and didn't come back until it dried out. The second time it died, never to return.

Others who have tride the original ScalaRider say that the volume is not loud enough for reliable communication with the BSR, but I didn't find that to be the case, even wearing a Scorpion EXO-100 half-shell with V&H 2-into-1 Pro Pipes (read: "Loud Exhaust").

With the 09 SERG, I've added a CB Radio and Intercom which gets bike-to-bike, rider-to-passenger and radio/CD/MP3 under control. However, without the Harley bluetooth module -- concerning which I've heard not great reports -- there is no way to integrate the mobile phone. Likewise the GPS, but I'm not a GPS kind of a guy. In that way, I am old school -- I LOVE MAPS!! But I digress...

I looked at the Nolan system, though I never actually got hands on one. I was never comfortable enough to order one and spend that much money. I doubt that Drag Specialties and/or the Harley dealer would have offered to give my money back if they didn't work out.

I've also seen pictures of a new helmet-mounted Bluetooth system that Harley is coming out with this year. Apparently, they debuted them at a show in February, had some immediate issues and have pulled it back while they "work out the bugs". I'm not optimistic. I expected it will be overpriced compared to other similarly-featured options on the market and I doubt it will offer anything truly new and different.

The new Cardo ScalaRide Q2 Multiset (see http://www.cardowireless.com/US/MultiSet) looks interesting, but I've already got bike-to-bike, rider-to-passenger and music worked out. It does offer GPS and mobile phone connectivity, but how do you integrate it with the factory components.

In short, it appears to me that there are a lot of "solutions" out there that address some of the connectivity issues (Bluetooth or otherwise) for riders, but no one has had a good, solid strategy as of yet.

Potentially on the bright side, J&M Audio (see http://www.jmcorp.com/) has just introduced their new J&M Bluetooth Wireless Helmet Headset system (see http://www.jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=30). It seems interesting. It will integrate with the Nolan helmets or it can be used as a clip on to other helmets. It has a Bluetooth dongle with an integration harness for the Harley factory sounds system (among others) that pipes all your audio accessories into your headset.

However, you are talking $300 each for rider and passenger headsets plus another $350 for the dongle and $50 for the harness. So, you're out $1000 for the system and their website clearly states that:

All J&M Bluetooth(tm) sales are FINAL,
Please read BEFORE purchasing

I'd be interested to check out the J&M Audio Bluetooth System, but I'm not gonna be the first one to gamble $1000 on it. Maybe I can catch them at a Rally sometime this year and try it out onsite before I lay down my money.

Therein lies the problem Chip. As it stands, there is no product on the market today that will allow the use of all of the features you want.

You might be right, AJ. That's been my experience. I hope J&M Audio changes that.

Your a lot smarter than me on this stuff so what do you recommend for a simple, reliable sytem that will allow me to link the phone to the Zumo and the Zumo to the helmet and retain use of the cb and intercom. I know, I'm not asking for much!
After my adventure with the Nolans I have decided to wait till technology catches up and gets it right!

That's the problem, Chip. Simplicity is pretty much out of the question. Too many components involved. And reliability? Come on! It's wireless voo-doo magic, man!

Just my $0.02 worth...

[hogasm]

Ask Porthole

[Bungy]

Potentially on the bright side, J&M Audio (see http://www.jmcorp.com/) has just introduced their new J&M Bluetooth Wireless Helmet Headset system (see http://www.jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=30). It seems interesting. It will integrate with the Nolan helmets or it can be used as a clip on to other helmets. It has a Bluetooth dongle with an integration harness for the Harley factory sounds system (among others) that pipes all your audio accessories into your headset.

However, you are talking $300 each for rider and passenger headsets plus another $350 for the dongle and $50 for the harness. So, you're out $1000 for the system and their website clearly states that:

All J&M Bluetooth(tm) sales are FINAL,
Please read BEFORE purchasing

I'd be interested to check out the J&M Audio Bluetooth System, but I'm not gonna be the first one to gamble $1000 on it. Maybe I can catch them at a Rally sometime this year and try it out onsite before I lay down my money.

There are a few other problems w/ the J&M system;
1. They don't have a bluetooth passenger headset yet, you have to hook up to the rider w/ a cord.
2. Both the dongle & the headset have to be recharged via a 120V charger. Now I can see why the headset needs this, but why the dongle. You'd have to bring the bike inside the motel room @ night to charge it up!

[Crusty]

I am ready to get ride of all teh cords and go Bluetooth... but as with y'all; I haven't decided which route to go. I'd like to just get a helmet with it all built in, for ease of use.

THere are some good writeups here: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/

I'd like to be able to integrate GPS & MP3, would prefer to listen in stereo... but not a deal breaker. And then be able to inject cell phone also when I want to.

[hard10]

I've been asked about Bluetooth alternatives and thought this information would be of value:

http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/

AJ

Chip asked me specifically about this product. I have not seen it personally, but it looks as close, functionally, as one can get to the HD BT module. This product interfaces the Zumo into the headset of the bike. In the big picture, it has the some limitations i.e., you must hit a switch to answer a call and the passenger cannot use the phone. The HD module uses the PTT button to answer and end calls and the passenger has equal controls via the remote (Tour Pak) buttons. The product will allow you to retain all of the other radio functions. I do not own a Zumo, so I have no way to test this. However, this unit has one significant advantage over the HD module, PRICE! I paid well over $500 for 74608-06. For $45, this is worth a try!

[sportygordy]

Chip asked me specifically about this product. I have not seen it personally, but it looks as close, functionally, as one can get to the HD BT module. This product interfaces the Zumo into the headset of the bike. In the big picture, it has the some limitations i.e., you must hit a switch to answer a call and the passenger cannot use the phone. The HD module uses the PTT button to answer and end calls and the passenger has equal controls via the remote (Tour Pak) buttons. The product will allow you to retain all of the other radio functions. I do not own a Zumo, so I have no way to test this. However, this unit has one significant advantage over the HD module, PRICE! I paid well over $500 for 74608-06. For $45, this is worth a try!

Hey AJ, are you saying this interfaces the same as the Harley's BT module? and would we still see the phone book and callers on the radio screen? This would be cool if it does. Hell $45 bucks is all.. lets try it   

[Crusty]

Motorcyclesuperstore has the Element Bluetooth helmets on sale for $30 off... They are given a decent review by WBW

M/C superstore element sale

[Diamondback]

 

I too would love to have the full functionality of Bluetooth (that means no wires to the helmet) but that would require someone (only HD) providing a Bluetooth solution for the CB, XM, Radio, MP3, intercom and talking to the Zumo (which will take care of the phone).

Cell Set does a great job of all of this but you have to plug your headset into the hard wired HD solution.

 

[bissjim]

AJ

I looked at the above and didn't see anything that rang my bell.
Your a lot smarter than me on this stuff so what do you recommend for a simple, reliable sytem that will allow me to link the phone to the Zumo and the Zumo to the helmet and retain use of the cb and intercom. I know, I'm not asking for much!
After my adventure with the Nolans I have decided to wait till technology catches up and gets it right!

SBB

Inexpensive True Bluetooth integration is a ways off. If you are looking for inexpensive and don't mind the helmet cord.
http://home.comcast.net/~jbissonette1/site/