Cool! When can you say more, Steve?
Question: it has been my understanding that any collected data was not applied in VTune for above 80 kPA cells before this update. Is that true?
The reason I ask is because my bike seems to lag at WOT and not have the power it has at less than WOT, even after many VTune cycles.
We have always extended the collected data in Vtune to the open loop high-kPA cells up to now. Will the new software update do anything to apply the collected data to the high-kPA cells (as is done for lower-kPa cells), to help get the VE tables dialed in better in those high-kPa ranges - versus just extending adjustments to them? And does this question even make sense?
Thanks, Steve!
Ken
The changes are in DataMaster2 not in Vtune2, so the way the data is being shown and collected in DataMaster2 is what we changed. We have always collected all data and Vtune2 has used it to correct the VE tables. If you used the extend feature in Vtune2 it will be no different as Vtune2 has not changed. The reason for now showing the data during data collection is two fold. One people need to understand it has always been there and two, get people ready for what is coming in the future. So you can take any of your previous recordings and play them back in DataMaster2 now and you will now see what we have always done.
To much BS is going on these days about tuning at greater than 85 kPa in closed loop by people who do not understand how or why things work the way they do. These same people are to lazy to read the manuals of the various products and understand what the words mean. Lots of advertising hype with little to no meat there.
We, TTS will never try and call looking at closed loop at WOT, tuning, as it's not. It is too lean of a mixture to run for very long without causing engine damage and we are not willing to take that chance on your 25K+ motorcycle. If we could limit our product use to just experienced dyno tuners things MIGHT be different as they know better and have a controlled situation. DJ has said it in there manual but some people try to make it into things it is not
"AutoTune Basic
Without any additional modules, the Power Vision will take advantage of what the ECM "sees"
from its OEM narrowband O2 sensors and use that data to achieve the target AFR. This
method works great in those operating areas where it makes sense to run in a lean state:
idle, light load, and cruise conditions. AutoTune Basic will fix the normal closed loop range,
but can also temporarily extend the closed loop range
to gain insight on the actual AFR in
areas that are normally open loop (high load/high RPM). At high load/high RPM ranges
this
"temporary situation" is not ideal, and this is where it is advantageous to use AutoTune Pro."
They are clear not to use the words tuning and also just as clear to tell you it is NOT safe. They watered the wording down by saying "not ideal" and "temporary situation" but if you read the manual for what it says, not what you want it to say it takes the same position TTS has always taken. What we know about the DJ product comes right out of there very own manuals and that's it.