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thewasteguy

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2013 gold cvo breakout
« on: June 20, 2013, 07:53:19 PM »

I purchased the 2013 CVO Breakout in gold. Due to numerous light scratches and blemishes,I am very displeased with the paint quality which was billed as a "mirror" finish.My dealer has only sold (1) mine,and doesn't have anything to compare it to. There is some chat on Youtube claiming delivery of this model has been suspended possibly to a paint issue. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 08:29:29 PM »

I also have a gold Breakout and I can see sanding or finishing marks under the paint.  The marks are not in the paint but, on the metal itself.  I was told by my dealer that was the intended look.

I also heard of a paint issue with the Breakout but, it was a supply issue not a quality problem. 

Can owners of the black and/or burgundy Breakout see finishing or sanding marks on your tank and front fender?  Please share your observations.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 08:36:20 PM »

My red one is perfect...if I were you, I'd call Harley corporate.  The CVO is their flagship.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 08:43:33 PM »

My black and silver has no paint/finish issues either.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 10:27:52 PM »

The tank is polished by hand...you will see the marks of the sanding...especially on the black and silver!  It's normal...people expect the tank to be chrome. It's not...
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 11:06:00 PM »

Appears as if the CVO BO was stop shipping/sales due to paint quality issues.
 H-D will never admit this but the paint quality of many CVO BO is not meeting minimum expected requirements. H-D had mentioned "production issues" as if the vendor they outsourced the painting job could not meet the  demand.

As of right now, we are not expecting a CVO BO for 2014 year model. It is a beautiful looking bike and they are not selling them anymore....why?

I believe, and the guys with these particular models paint jobs may chime in and verify this question. The Gold and Silver tanks are hand polished and have several "clear" covers over naked polished metal when the red ones are not polished but painted. That's why the red models are not having the quality issue. Am I right?
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 11:14:33 PM »

These are the marks....it's normal.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 05:51:04 AM »

I have the same marks on my black and silver
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 07:00:56 AM »

Appears as if the CVO BO was stop shipping/sales due to paint quality issues.
 H-D will never admit this but the paint quality of many CVO BO is not meeting minimum expected requirements. H-D had mentioned "production issues" as if the vendor they outsourced the painting job could not meet the  demand.

As of right now, we are not expecting a CVO BO for 2014 year model. It is a beautiful looking bike and they are not selling them anymore....why?

I believe, and the guys with these particular models paint jobs may chime in and verify this question. The Gold and Silver tanks are hand polished and have several "clear" covers over naked polished metal when the red ones are not polished but painted. That's why the red models are not having the quality issue. Am I right?

Gunslinger in Colorado is the company that did the paint.  The bottom line is that the process of painting these bikes takes a long time and they couldn't keep up.  Gunslinger is not that big of a shop and they also do a lot of custom work and collision repair.....so they couldn't keep up with Harley and their day to day business. 

I think that everything man made will have issues....its the people on the forum that will let everyone know....but there are like 50 Breakouts on our map....there are 1850 more that may have no problems at all.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2013, 09:50:05 AM »

I have the gold BO, and have no issues with the paint. I can see the sand/grind marks that are in the metal of the tank(under the paint). I was told that was the expected effect.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 10:39:10 AM »

Gunslinger in Colorado is the company that did the paint.  The bottom line is that the process of painting these bikes takes a long time and they couldn't keep up.  Gunslinger is not that big of a shop and they also do a lot of custom work and collision repair.....so they couldn't keep up with Harley and their day to day business.  

I think that everything man made will have issues....its the people on the forum that will let everyone know....but there are like 50 Breakouts on our map....there are 1850 more that may have no problems at all.

I've had the pleasure of visiting Gunslingers shop in Golden.  Even had some work done by them (painted inner for my CVO SG and repainted my 03 Anniversary Heritage Springer).

Anyway, when I was talking with the gentlemen (name withheld for his respect) who used to be the manager of the collision department, last fall, he mentioned that Gunslingers just grabbed a few more of the paintsets from another shop that are part of the sheet metal exchange program for HD.  I forget how many sets that brought them to, but it was over 10 various collections, and several collections have several color variants.

During our conversation, we discussed their growing size.  They added a new facility that was quite large, and to ramp up CVO production, were setting up to go into 24 hour operations.  All of this was discussed when we were talking shop about my RG conversion.

I don't doubt that the workload was a strained, but as I'm sure they have contractual obligations with HD, I am willing to bet Gunslingers would have put the nails in their own coffin so to speak if HD stopped the CVO Breakout because the painter couldn't meet demand.  In fact, I do know that Gunslingers was actually delaying inbound work from private parties while production was at the fullest.

Take it all with a grain of salt, I'm by no means an insider on their operations - just summarizing a previous conversation....

Also, FWIW, Gunslingers also painted the 12 and 13 CVO Road Glide Customs.  Not that the Breakout isn't a great seller, but we all know that HD's cash cows are the touring bikes.  Why else would we see 3/4 of the CVO bikes each year come from that family?
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 01:19:26 PM »

When I called about trying to get them to paint a helmet to match the bike, they said that they are way back logged for custom work.  she said the lead time on a helmet would be 3-4 weeks!  Imagine what it would take for 1900 CVO Breakouts and all of their other work....
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 01:44:41 PM »

These are the marks....it's normal.


The marks on the pic are from the grinding/sanding process and shouldn't be there. The advertised paint steps that they used for our bikes should not leave those marks especially since they say its a mirror finish. There are candy paint jobs over bare metal that purposely leave sanding and grinding swirls to add effects but the CVOs are not supposed to have them. I'd call corporate.....fyi, my red one is good to go.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 02:03:06 PM »

When I called about trying to get them to paint a helmet to match the bike, they said that they are way back logged for custom work.  she said the lead time on a helmet would be 3-4 weeks!  Imagine what it would take for 1900 CVO Breakouts and all of their other work....

I was told the same thing.  They were all but telling me that they were turning away work at the moment, and really, it was just that they were asking individual customers to hold off for a little while.  During the CVO ramp up and move, the last thing they wanted was a bunch of individual work that needed to be moved and dealt with as well, during contractual obligations.

FWIW, they had my tins for my Heritage Springer last year for about 3 months during the heavy production months.  Not a big deal, as I wanted it done right, and they did it perfectly.
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Re: 2013 gold cvo breakout
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2013, 02:14:37 PM »

That looks more like the "metal grind" method used on some other H-D models.  I don't think it's suppose to be like that on the BO.  It must have passed the "10 foot" rule that H-D uses.  If they say it can't readily be seen from 10 feet away then it's not an issue.  Actually it doesn't have enough marks in it to be called "metal grind" and has too many marks to be called "polished".  To me it wouldn't be an issue but that's just me. I could see how someone else would want it polished to perfection as it should be.  Like many other BO owners have stated here, their paint has no blemishes or sanding marks.  You must know by now that the dealership or the moco will try to explain it away as "it's suppose to be like that".
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