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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 10:47:13 AM »



110 stock heads stock t/b our genesis cam and SE stage III kit. Easy and makes very good power.

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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 02:41:58 PM »



110 stock heads stock t/b our genesis cam and SE stage III kit. Easy and makes very good power.


What is the stage III kit?
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 04:27:23 PM »

 Man that's hard to believe!!! I just seen two full builds with head work higher comp, TB, 585's and all the goodies ( $7000.00 build ) barely make that kind of power torque.  The dyno guy was telling me he just did two supercharged 110 and the both made around 140 fpt and 130 hp. So to get 126 fpt out of a practically stock bike???   Just hard to believe that's all.
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 07:58:28 AM »

Its not just the cam its about getting the right parts to work " together" Some would say that it needs to have 116+ hp or whatever. I have done several of these in house and have had half a dozen or more lost count really that have been done else where. Simple deal really. I know that goes against some thoughts and opinion. Hey it works and has a great curve.

lets look at if from another angle.. a stock 255 with a good ex and air cleaner tuned by someone that knows what they are doing and good at their job.

110 in that form =96 hp and 110 tq  so a gain of 16 tq with a piston kit and different cam is hard to believe??  How about this then results do vary , try it another day and it may get better, I can show you what it does with the stock stock engine and just a cam install then you see that it only made 8 more tq . That other sheet is in STD so take a few off those numbers I have to reprint that sheet. It was ascreen shot and the other tuner use std so i compared in the same 



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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 07:58:09 PM »

 I am doing a complete engine build with the best builder we have here in Ontario. Porting, machine work, and crank work with the best guy in Canada, ( Patric from J Precision )   Then getting it tuned with the best tuner in the surrounding aria. So everything is to legit to quit around here. I am hoping for some half decent numbers and a good "seat of the pant" feel. But I am skeptical I will get 128 fpt and 120 hp like your graphs show.  I just see to many graphs on this forum with guy's who bolt on a intake and some slip-ons and there bikes make 120/120 Kind of unreal to me. Will post the dyno run results in a few weeks. Until then I will cross my digits. Cheers.
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2013, 08:31:43 AM »

I feel that with the 110 it can be a little hard to get the power where you want it and I can tell you that with tuning it can be very picky on timing. Its not the most easy going kit.. Not hard but you need to try moving timing around and many times the timing curve is not what you would use for most other engines. I have several kits that I like to use and if a customer wants a certain power level I use only those parts.
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 09:48:37 PM »

I am doing a complete engine build with the best builder we have here in Ontario. Porting, machine work, and crank work with the best guy in Canada, ( Patric from J Precision )   Then getting it tuned with the best tuner in the surrounding aria. So everything is to legit to quit around here. I am hoping for some half decent numbers and a good "seat of the pant" feel. But I am skeptical I will get 128 fpt and 120 hp like your graphs show.  I just see to many graphs on this forum with guy's who bolt on a intake and some slip-ons and there bikes make 120/120 Kind of unreal to me. Will post the dyno run results in a few weeks. Until then I will cross my digits. Cheers.

  What all is patric doing ?
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2013, 05:36:31 AM »

I am doing a complete engine build with the best builder we have here in Ontario. Porting, machine work, and crank work with the best guy in Canada, ( Patric from J Precision )   Then getting it tuned with the best tuner in the surrounding aria. So everything is to legit to quit around here. I am hoping for some half decent numbers and a good "seat of the pant" feel. But I am skeptical I will get 128 fpt and 120 hp like your graphs show.  I just see to many graphs on this forum with guy's who bolt on a intake and some slip-ons and there bikes make 120/120 Kind of unreal to me. Will post the dyno run results in a few weeks. Until then I will cross my digits. Cheers.

Al McAlvena from over near Mississagua, was a darn good builder/racer, but he is gone now. RIP.
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2013, 08:15:46 AM »

I am doing a complete engine build with the best builder we have here in Ontario. Porting, machine work, and crank work with the best guy in Canada, ( Patric from J Precision )   Then getting it tuned with the best tuner in the surrounding aria. So everything is to legit to quit around here. I am hoping for some half decent numbers and a good "seat of the pant" feel. But I am skeptical I will get 128 fpt and 120 hp like your graphs show.  I just see to many graphs on this forum with guy's who bolt on a intake and some slip-ons and there bikes make 120/120 Kind of unreal to me. Will post the dyno run results in a few weeks. Until then I will cross my digits. Cheers.
                                                                                who is doing your engine build? and who do you use for the best dyno tuner? thank you , good info to no .
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2013, 08:57:07 AM »

 What all is patric doing ?


  Patric already ported my heads and intake 2 years ago, so now he will deck the heads to bring up the comp to 10:5-1 and refresh them. Cylinder boring for the 0.010 over pistons and groove the valve pockets so everything clears. A complete re and re of the crank with new Timkin bearings, balance and weld. He will also repair the scoring I have on the tip of the crank from the excessive run out. Hopefully will be running in about 2 weeks so I can get some nice fall riding/ripping.  I know I will make at least 200 hp and 300 fpt once I am done.  ;)
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2013, 09:01:27 AM »

Intake.
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2013, 07:23:43 AM »

Large port rough texture   ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2013, 09:42:45 AM »

We just built a 2011 CVO 110"/.585 S&S cam/our heads/58mm HD t/body/10.5 cr, that came in with V&H pipes, from Salem, Mass.
UNTUNED, on our Dynojet 150 it showed "measured" 124.7 hp, 121.7 ft/lbs., "corrected" 119.8 hp 116.8 ft/lbs., at 55.6 degrees F, 29.92 baro., 0.27 in.Hg, 634 ft elevation, RPM/MPH=47(5th gear).
Came in at 89 hp/107 ft/lbs, cylinders never came off the case deck.
Ought to run well after tuning. :D
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2013, 01:14:12 PM »

 So about 112 horse

 Should  do that with just a cam pipe and a tune
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Re: S&S 570 Cams on a 110" Opinions Please
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2013, 01:29:16 PM »

Wouldn't have expected anything less than that, once again............ :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

www.maliburacing.com has some very interesting info............ :D
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