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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2016, 08:55:11 PM »

watching this
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2016, 09:58:47 PM »

Its more than real. I will be getting the first 107 delivered to my dealer.
It's going straight to the dyno room. Then it gets all tore apart. I can hardly wait!  :2vrolijk_21:

I might share a few pics?

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hope you can make a pipe for this 8 valve job so that it will still sound like a harley, from the automotive world, the more valves, the deep tone is gone...it will be interesting
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2016, 08:54:38 AM »

hope you can make a pipe for this 8 valve job so that it will still sound like a harley, from the automotive world, the more valves, the deep tone is gone...it will be interesting

We will be making a new headpipe and mufflers ASAP!  :2vrolijk_21:
I'm not riding my new 8 valve with stock exhaust, not even once.
Someone might think I was on an Eaglerider.

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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2016, 09:48:00 AM »

Found a pic  :P
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2016, 09:55:06 AM »

Spy photos are everywhere!

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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2016, 10:35:55 AM »

Found this interesting patent concerning pushrod operating multiple valves and some of the inherent problems:

https://search.rpxcorp.com/pat/US7424876B2

Specifically some of the problems this patent claims to address are:
Current four-valve-per-cylinder pushrod engines include
two intake valves and two exhaust valves for each cylinder.
Each pair of valves is operated in tandem by a bridged valvetrain
that includes a camshaft-driven cam follower (also
referred to as a tappet or lifter) connected by a single pushrod
to a rocker arm that drives a bridge coupled to the pair of
valves (intake or exhaust). This bridged valvetrain is a cost- 30
efficient design that achieves acceptable performance for
many applications, although operation of the two bridged
valves is not precisely synchronized because the force exerted
on the bridge can not be perfectly balanced between the
valves, the valves may have slightly different spring forces, 35
and the valve components may experience slightly different
wear. This may result in one valve opening late and/or one
valve may seat first while closing causing the other valve to
seat late with a higher than intended velocity. In addition,
valve stem tips are edge loaded by the bridge with higher 40
stresses resulting in higher rates of wear and potential noise,
vibration, and harshness (NVH) concerns.

It will be interesting to see exactly how the moco addresses these potential problems - hopefully better than they did with the twinkie and expecially its 110 variation.
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2016, 10:46:39 AM »

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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2016, 10:57:31 AM »

LMAO!!!!
For sure.  Not sure which lawnmower this was from.
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2016, 12:45:19 PM »

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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2016, 04:33:14 PM »

 The rumor at my dealer is that the new 107 will have only one camshaft, and the CVO's will still be 110 inches. Anyone else heard that? CAHDBIKER


Rumor has the new engine to be substantially quieter than the previous clatter box. It will be a nice change to ride something far from home that doesn't
sound like its going to fly apart at any moment.

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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2016, 04:42:36 PM »

114 cubic inch CVO Street Glide for your viewing pleasure.  Single cam, obviously, but the rest is purely conjecture at this point.
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2016, 08:55:37 PM »

Surely not a new Touring frame already next year?

We will be doing Demo rides at the Harley shop Saturday and Sunday of the Maggie Valley GTG.
Stop over try a few!


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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2016, 11:20:16 AM »

Found this interesting patent concerning pushrod operating multiple valves and some of the inherent problems:

https://search.rpxcorp.com/pat/US7424876B2

Specifically some of the problems this patent claims to address are:
Current four-valve-per-cylinder pushrod engines include
two intake valves and two exhaust valves for each cylinder.
Each pair of valves is operated in tandem by a bridged valvetrain
that includes a camshaft-driven cam follower (also
referred to as a tappet or lifter) connected by a single pushrod
to a rocker arm that drives a bridge coupled to the pair of
valves (intake or exhaust). This bridged valvetrain is a cost- 30
efficient design that achieves acceptable performance for
many applications, although operation of the two bridged
valves is not precisely synchronized because the force exerted
on the bridge can not be perfectly balanced between the
valves, the valves may have slightly different spring forces, 35
and the valve components may experience slightly different
wear. This may result in one valve opening late and/or one
valve may seat first while closing causing the other valve to
seat late with a higher than intended velocity. In addition,
valve stem tips are edge loaded by the bridge with higher 40
stresses resulting in higher rates of wear and potential noise,
vibration, and harshness (NVH) concerns.

It will be interesting to see exactly how the moco addresses these potential problems - hopefully better than they did with the twinkie and expecially its 110 variation.

Lots of diesel motors use a single lifter and pushrod to activate two valves.  Some with more success than others, admittedly.
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Re: New 114 liquid cooled engine
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2016, 11:50:45 AM »

We will be doing Demo rides at the Harley shop Saturday and Sunday of the Maggie Valley GTG.
Stop over try a few!


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