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CVO Technical => General CVO discussion => Topic started by: Older Guy on September 03, 2013, 03:25:13 PM

Title: 110 B motor
Post by: Older Guy on September 03, 2013, 03:25:13 PM
I read in spects for Softail Deluxe CVO it has a 110 B motor. Is it the same as the other cvo bikes? If not what is different?
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Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Steve_G on September 03, 2013, 03:31:48 PM
All the Softail models -CVO or not have the B motor (counter Balanced)
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Older Guy on September 03, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
Are they all the same in CVO?
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: timo482 on September 03, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
a engines and b engines have different cases and cranks, plus the balancers, the cyls and jugs and heads are the same
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Rocketman69 on September 04, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Older Guy...if what you're asking is whether or not the 110 installed in the CVO Softails is the same as the one installed in the CVO touring bikes.....the answer is a resounding NO.  As SteveB said; the 'B' designation means it is the counterbalanced Softail engine.  All Softail twin cam motors are counterbalanced....touring bike motors (including CVO) are not, and use the 'A' designation.
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Older Guy on September 04, 2013, 07:33:51 AM
Would the power be about the same? I know on the big frame they are rubber mounted. just wondering if they put out more then a 103. will I notice a difference from my streetglide to the softail?
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Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: tysndys on September 04, 2013, 12:50:23 PM
Yes you will notice a difference. Particularly if the B motor is in a Fatboy. You will look cooler and take years off your appearance. I have been told that the A motor bikes are "age appropriate". I think she was just jealous.
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Pete7539 on September 04, 2013, 12:57:17 PM
Would the power be about the same? I know on the big frame they are rubber mounted. just wondering if they put out more then a 103. will I notice a difference from my streetglide to the softail?
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I think the 110b makes 5 less hp than 110a
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: North Georgia Hawg on September 04, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
Yes you will notice a difference. Particularly if the B motor is in a Fatboy. You will look cooler and take years off your appearance. I have been told that the A motor bikes are "age appropriate". I think she was just jealous.

Will riding a Fat Boy make me look as BAD-ASS as Arnold in his prime? I'd buy one in a HEARTBEAT if that were the case!  :2vrolijk_21:

But I don't think so... no bike could EVER make me look bad ass. I'm just a nerd on a SESG...  :-\

Ken
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: ultrarider123 on September 05, 2013, 08:12:19 AM
Will riding a Fat Boy make me look as BAD-ASS as Arnold in his prime? I'd buy one in a HEARTBEAT if that were the case!  :2vrolijk_21:

But I don't think so... no bike could EVER make me look bad ass. I'm just a nerd on a SESG...  :-\
Ken

Same here, Ken.  Us'n Nerds needs to sticks together.....
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: grc on September 05, 2013, 08:56:03 AM
Would the power be about the same? I know on the big frame they are rubber mounted. just wondering if they put out more then a 103. will I notice a difference from my streetglide to the softail?
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There are differences in output, but not all of the difference is due strictly to the engine.  The exhaust system also makes a difference between a Softail and a Touring model.  The B engine has internal balance shafts driven by a chain, and that requires a certain amount of power to run.  Harley also tunes the engines differently.

Don't forget though that even if that B engine has slightly less power, the bike is also lighter in weight.  The relevant thing to your perception of power is the power to weight ratio, not the absolute power numbers.

Jerry
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: acevtwin on September 05, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
The first thing you will notice Olderguy is at a red light on the Softail 110B motor, your mirrors will be still as opposed to your old Streetglide vibrating. The bottom line is you will like the seat height, ease of moving it around and the slight power increase of the 110 over your old 103. What you may not like, (and I still can't get used to) is the top end noise of the 110. Good Luck with what ever color you buy!
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Dr.D on September 05, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
When comparing the A vs B motors it is obvious that the counter balancing of the B makes it more smooth at idle but I thought that they seemed to vibrate the same or more at higher rpms.? Any others feel that way? I always thought the B motor concept was foolish. Every kid knows a big Harley jumps and bumps at a stop light. :apple: Honders don't. :D
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Steve_G on September 07, 2013, 04:01:26 PM
I think the rubber mounted bikes are smoother at highway speeds.
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: SteveO on September 08, 2013, 09:19:57 PM
Little more torque at a lower RPM, no vibration at idle, stronger low end.
Title: Re: 110 B motor
Post by: Older Guy on September 09, 2013, 07:20:55 AM
Thanks ? answered.
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