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Hyd shocks
« on: September 22, 2009, 08:53:50 AM »

I notice that the 10 FLHX CVO has hyd shocks, how i the ride compare to the air that my ultra has. I see they have an adjustment knob on the left side, I would dump my air shocks and put these on if the ride is better. How close are they to bitubo shocks?

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 09:04:21 AM »

I notice that the 10 FLHX CVO has hyd shocks, how i the ride compare to the air that my ultra has. I see they have an adjustment knob on the left side, I would dump my air shocks and put these on if the ride is better. How close are they to bitubo shocks?

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I don't see the new shocks listed in the accessory catalog yet, and haven't seen any detailed info about them either.  At this point, the best approach would be for you to seek out a SESG and a test ride; that's the only way you will be able to determine if they are what you seek.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 09:13:53 AM »

Yeah it's not in the P&A book, I just see it on the bike. Also it's maybe lower? how much lower is the FLHX compared to a ultra?
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 09:31:45 AM »

They are a Showa shock with a preload. 12" and they ride much stiffer than your Ultra shock. I had a 2004 SEEG before this SESG and they are better than the short stock ones (not saying much) and very similar to the way my Progressive 440's rode and handled. Having said all of that, I would welcome a better ( more comfortable ) ride if there is such an animal in a 12" shock. I've read much about the Bitubo's, but have no personal experience with them.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 10:09:41 AM »

2Eagles, the SG shocks are 12"? so the ultra is 13" The knob there on the left preloads the shock? is there just one?

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 10:20:35 AM »

Yes the preload knob is just on the left side shock.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 10:24:20 AM »

Yes, there's only one pre load.

I'm very happy with the ride.  I to have an 04 SEEG and rode it stock for quite awhile before I switched to the Progressive 440 HD.  I think these shocks are better.....more sure footed reaction in the twisties under power or in braking allows me to be a lot more aggressive in the twisties than I could on my SEEG.

I've also owned three Ultra Classics and always thought those shocks were to mushy and to much play in them (even with them pumped up) and just to unpredictable in the back mountain roads (we have a lot of them here in Nor Cal) especially riding two up or loaded.  Just my .02 worth.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 10:38:21 AM »

would you know how they compare to bitubo?
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 12:25:23 PM »

would you know how they compare to bitubo?


I don't have any idea......never rode with bitubo. :nixweiss:
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 12:31:51 PM »

I thought one shock is pre load the other is rebound.....
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 12:55:45 PM »

I thought one shock is pre load the other is rebound.....

That is whay I think also :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 01:13:26 PM »

I don't know yet I hear at bitubo but I can't fine anyone that sells them but one person. I may try HD's hyd shocks
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 02:27:47 PM »

CVO 2010 SESG shocks are not for sale.......cvo item only.............
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 02:39:36 PM »

I don't see the new shocks listed in the accessory catalog yet, and haven't seen any detailed info about them either.  At this point, the best approach would be for you to seek out a SESG and a test ride; that's the only way you will be able to determine if they are what you seek.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 03:54:53 PM »

They are not restricted they just won't be available until the end of this month
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 07:35:13 PM »

good luck on getting a SESG off his buike to let you test ride it....lol
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 07:53:14 PM »

I put the 300mm (11.8")Bitubo's on my 10 SESG 2 weeks ago. It took awhile to get them tweeked in. But once I got them adjusted right, I think they are much better than the stock ones. Much more responsive when you get aggressive and don't slam you on the rebound. I do mostly 2 up riding and I found that I had to adjust the preload on the stock shocks more to keep from bottoming out, which gave a very stiff ride. The Bitubo's have three adjustments (preload, compression & rebound) You can tweek them the way you like to ride instead of just preload. $699.95 (CVO discount) plus freight

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 08:17:20 PM »

Where did you get them from?
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 08:50:15 PM »

Where did you get them from?

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 09:52:36 PM »

Yes, there's only one pre load.

I'm very happy with the ride.  I to have an 04 SEEG and rode it stock for quite awhile before I switched to the Progressive 440 HD.  I think these shocks are better.....more sure footed reaction in the twisties under power or in braking allows me to be a lot more aggressive in the twisties than I could on my SEEG.

I've also owned three Ultra Classics and always thought those shocks were to mushy and to much play in them (even with them pumped up) and just to unpredictable in the back mountain roads (we have a lot of them here in Nor Cal) especially riding two up or loaded.  Just my .02 worth.

I agree with JCZ regarding aggressive riding through the twisties. I love the way this bike handles the Ozark Mt. curves, however, riding two up is fairly stiff. Purely from a comfort standpoint, the 13" stock on the Ultra's are hard to beat.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 01:29:34 AM »

2Eagles, the SG shocks are 12"? so the ultra is 13" The knob there on the left preloads the shock? is there just one?

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there's just one knob, on the left side, and you have to take the bag off, or at least leaned away from the bike, to adjust.  One shock is damping and the other is rebound.  They do ride a little stiffer than the air shocks on my SEUC, but I like the firm ride. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2009, 02:39:28 AM »

Would these hyd shocks from the 2010 SESG do work and fit at a 2009 SERG or do they have a different swingarm ?
(based on a single-spar, rigid backbone frame and a new swingarm developed to withstand the demands of long-haul touring riders and today’s more-powerful engines.)
Do anybody have a hd-number for these hyd-shocks ?
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2009, 10:04:21 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2009, 02:32:56 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2009, 04:18:20 PM »

54674-10  LH shock
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$404 and $227 respectively, so a complete set would be about $631 MSRP.  Hmmm, that's up in the neighborhood of some of the better aftermarket stuff, like a set of custom built Works Performance units.

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2009, 04:24:18 PM »

Jerry where did you get those from at that price

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2009, 04:35:32 PM »

Jerry where did you get those from at that price

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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2009, 04:45:14 PM »

thanks

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and from a german dealer they are about Euro 640 and the other 460 Euro , wohoooooo .
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2009, 06:53:27 AM »

I would not think stock shocks will be as good as any after market shock. Check out post on here seems to be a lot of people are going to a shock called Works and they offer different lengths. I'm going to look into them as the air shocks on my 07 SERK Suck, The air pressure seems to go down on a long ride and i am always having to check the air pressure, gets old.
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I would not think stock shocks will be as good as any after market shock. Check out post on here seems to be a lot of people are going to a shock called Works and they offer different lengths. I'm going to look into them as the air shocks on my 07 SERK Suck, The air pressure seems to go down on a long ride and i am always having to check the air pressure, gets old.

Don't have to worry about that with the new hydraulic adjustable shocks...they ride great....I really like them. 

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Now , after several miles on the new hyd-shocks , would you say that they are good enough and worth to get them ? About $540 from chicago harley dealer . Should i order them ?
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Now , after several miles on the new hyd-shocks , would you say that they are good enough and worth to get them ? About $540 from chicago harley dealer . Should i order them ?
Let me put it this way.  They are definitely good enough, IMO, that I won't be replacing them with any after market shocks.  Would I purchase them as an aftermarket shock.  I don't know, perhaps, but there are shocks out there that you might also want to consider.  Bitubos come to mind as one of them.  The HD SESG shocks are very good though. I'll definitely keep them on the SESG.

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2009, 03:46:52 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2009, 06:36:43 PM »

Let me put it this way.  They are definitely good enough, IMO, that I won't be replacing them with any after market shocks.  Would I purchase them as an aftermarket shock.  I don't know, perhaps, but there are shocks out there that you might also want to consider.  Bitubos come to mind as one of them.  The HD SESG shocks are very good though. I'll definitely keep them on the SESG.

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Me too......first stock shocks I've been happy with.  Time will tell on the single shock adjustment, thow. :nixweiss:
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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2009, 07:42:22 PM »

My wife approves of the stock shocks!!!! I think thats all that matters in my world!!!       :nixweiss:
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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2009, 08:17:55 PM »

My wife approves of the stock shocks!!!! I think thats all that matters in my world!!!       :nixweiss:

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« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2009, 09:31:07 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2009, 10:40:13 PM »

One thought, I have had a leak down of fluid on right side and of course nobody has them to replace with warranty yet.  I am traveling with my bike and will get the replacement ordered once I get back to Louisville. 

Someone else posted the same leak down problem in the SESG problems post.
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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2009, 10:43:45 PM »

One thought, I have had a leak down of fluid on right side and of course nobody has them to replace with warranty yet.  I am traveling with my bike and will get the replacement ordered once I get back to Louisville. 

Someone else posted the same leak down problem in the SESG problems post.

Aaah , interesting , so i should better not hurry with the order , perhaps they will find a mistake in the shocks .
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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2009, 11:34:32 AM »

Aaah , interesting , so i should better not hurry with the order , perhaps they will find a mistake in the shocks .

Two reports (or is that the same person posting about a leak?) isn't a bad ratio for the amount of SESG that are on the road. 

I think the Progressive 440 shocks had a higher failure rate.  Great customer service though, if you have the receipt......they totally rebuilt mine and a number of other members here.

I think with the SESG hydraulic shocks, if one is leaking, you're probably just going to get a new shock.
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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2009, 06:49:40 PM »

i have a new set i took off of my sesg that i would get rid of
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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2009, 06:57:50 PM »

i have a new set i took off of my sesg that i would get rid of

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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2009, 07:01:24 PM »

i had a set of stock harley air shocks off of a 2010 ultra     sent them to bitchen baggers.com   and had them shortened to 11 inches
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2009, 07:16:15 PM »

i had a set of stock harley air shocks off of a 2010 ultra     sent them to bitchen baggers.com   and had them shortened to 11 inches
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2009, 07:30:36 PM »

no pictures   they look exactly like before except 11inches eye to eye       being shorter you have to run more air pressure  30-32 psi works pretty good for me
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i have a new set i took off of my sesg that i would get rid of
damn , i allready ordered them .
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« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2009, 08:59:43 AM »


Is it just me, or is there something not quite right about the idea of using only one side to set preload?  Maybe with a Harley it doesn't matter all that much, but I was always taught that it was desireable to match left and right sides as closely as possible (forks and rear shocks) to provide the smoothest action without excessive binding or "stiction".  Then I switch to the H-D brand and find that they do silly stuff like using a damper rod in one side of the forks and a cartridge system in the other, with different characteristics constantly working against each other.  Talk about causing "stiction".  So now they take that same goofy idea and apply it to the rear of the bike, and only use one side to set ride height?  Seems wrong to me.  In fact, I originally assumed there was a little hydraulic line that connected the two shocks, just like the air line on the air adjustable shocks.  I was totally "shocked" when I perused the first example at the local dealership and found no interconnecting line.

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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2009, 11:25:45 AM »

You often see a "only-one-side-damper" at motorcycles , i guess it is based on the "one-wheel-line" and doesn`t really matter .
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2009, 11:37:17 AM »

Hey, they work for me.  The best stock shocks I've experienced.....I'm going with em! :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2009, 11:43:49 AM »

I agree these shocks work well from what I can tell from the short time I rode my bike.  I will be curious to see how they react in hard cornering and sweeping turns at higher speeds with a mix of road undulations.  Have to wait for the snow to melt!
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2009, 11:52:07 AM »

I'm not that smart but am going to throw something out anyway.  Is there adjustment on one side only because the clutch side shock is compressed a little when on the side stand?      :nixweiss:

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I have the same damn question, I am going to guess that they are cheap!
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« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2009, 12:03:55 PM »

I'm not that smart but am going to throw something out anyway.  Is there adjustment on one side only because the clutch side shock is compressed a little when on the side stand?      :nixweiss:

Or is the MOCO just that cheap?  

I would like to see the mechanical enginneering write-up explaining the functional design of these shocks.  
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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2009, 03:16:09 PM »

i have a new set i took off of my sesg that i would get rid of

What do you want for them?
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« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2009, 04:18:56 PM »

I would like to see the mechanical enginneering write-up explaining the functional design of these shocks.  

Me too.  First, I'd like to see the reasoning for abandoning the air shocks, which have to be dirt cheap for the MoCo to buy.  Second, I'd like to see the reasoning for the "one side only" preload adjustment.  Is it to make folks who are used to just loosening one saddlebag to check and adjust air pressure happy?  As much as I like Boatman's answer (cheap), in this case I'm pretty sure the old air adjustable shocks or a pair of mechanically adjustable shocks would be much cheaper.

Experienced folks like JC and Red Devil seem to be impressed with these shocks, so when combined with the stiffer frame and swingarm maybe H-D has managed to actually come up with a better mousetrap. :confused5:   I hope so; it's about time they took suspension a little more seriously.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2009, 05:33:01 PM »

Is it just me, or is there something not quite right about the idea of using only one side to set preload?  Maybe with a Harley it doesn't matter all that much, but I was always taught that it was desireable to match left and right sides as closely as possible (forks and rear shocks) to provide the smoothest action without excessive binding or "stiction".  Then I switch to the H-D brand and find that they do silly stuff like using a damper rod in one side of the forks and a cartridge system in the other, with different characteristics constantly working against each other.  Talk about causing "stiction".  So now they take that same goofy idea and apply it to the rear of the bike, and only use one side to set ride height?  Seems wrong to me.  In fact, I originally assumed there was a little hydraulic line that connected the two shocks, just like the air line on the air adjustable shocks.  I was totally "shocked" when I perused the first example at the local dealership and found no interconnecting line.

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Forks and swingarms are too different animals.  If either system is structurally sound, effects will be transfered from one side to the other with no problem.  There will be additional forces (twisting for instance) added to the structure and bearing surfaces.  One of my Moto Guzzis had 42mm (I think) fork tubes,and one side handled adjustable rebound, the other adjustable compression.  This system worked quite well.  Any engineering decision is based on expected performance (what the customer expects, what the engineer expects it to do), testing (finite element analysis, real world experience), and cost.  Roll all 3 factors into something that everyone (customers. engineers, bean counters) can live with, and you get single sided adjustment.
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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2009, 07:11:30 PM »

Me too.  First, I'd like to see the reasoning for abandoning the air shocks, which have to be dirt cheap for the MoCo to buy.  Second, I'd like to see the reasoning for the "one side only" preload adjustment.  Is it to make folks who are used to just loosening one saddlebag to check and adjust air pressure happy?  As much as I like Boatman's answer (cheap), in this case I'm pretty sure the old air adjustable shocks or a pair of mechanically adjustable shocks would be much cheaper.

Experienced folks like JC and Red Devil seem to be impressed with these shocks, so when combined with the stiffer frame and swingarm maybe H-D has managed to actually come up with a better mousetrap. :confused5:   I hope so; it's about time they took suspension a little more seriously.

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I don't really get into the mechanics of why the MoCo does what they do, because to be quite honest, alot of the things they do baffle the hell out of me.  I know with this shock setup one shock is supposedly for damping and the other for rebound.  Whatever they did or how they did, IMO, they have a winner with this suspension.  It's tight in the twisties and provides a taut ride.  The only thing that I've noticed is that certain bumps I've driven over with this suspension are more pronounced then they are with the air suspension on the SEUC.  But I still prefer the ride.  Like JC, for me, they're a keeper.

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« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2009, 09:10:05 PM »

Jerry,
I don't really get into the mechanics of why the MoCo does what they do, because to be quite honest, alot of the things they do baffle the hell out of me.  I know with this shock setup one shock is supposedly for damping and the other for rebound.  Whatever they did or how they did, IMO, they have a winner with this suspension.  It's tight in the twisties and provides a taut ride.  The only thing that I've noticed is that certain bumps I've driven over with this suspension are more pronounced then they are with the air suspension on the SEUC.  But I still prefer the ride.  Like JC, for me, they're a keeper.

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Devil you rather these over the Air on the ultra?
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2009, 09:48:42 PM »

Devil you rather these over the Air on the ultra?

They both have their benefits, but overall, I'd say yes, I like the hydraulic shocks over the air shocks. 

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« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2009, 09:50:40 PM »

They both have their benefits, but overall, I'd say yes, I like the hydraulic shocks over the air shocks. 

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2009, 05:22:50 PM »

They seem to wrk fairly well but I'm curious how they'll hold up. I'll keep an eye out for the leak issue. I suspect that like most stock shocks after a couple thousand miles they will need replaced.
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« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2009, 12:25:29 AM »

My HD dealer (Louisville Harley) replaced my shock even though I had my mods on the bike (pipes and power commander) no questions asked.  I am  :orange:
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« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2009, 01:24:59 AM »

My HD dealer (Louisville Harley) replaced my shock even though I had my mods on the bike (pipes and power commander) no questions asked.  I am  :orange:

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« Reply #64 on: December 31, 2009, 09:45:36 AM »

Mine completely drained out of the bottom right side of shock.  Look at the bottom of shock or run your finger over them, u will know.  Mine left a puddle of oil too.... :oops:
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« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2009, 03:02:46 PM »

Mine completely drained out of the bottom right side of shock.  Look at the bottom of shock or run your finger over them, u will know.  Mine left a puddle of oil too.... :oops:

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« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2009, 03:22:54 PM »

Mine completely drained out of the bottom right side of shock.  Look at the bottom of shock or run your finger over them, u will know.  Mine left a puddle of oil too.... :oops:

Joe.....Checked mine and so far ok.....however, before yours puked the oil was there any warning? .......felt odd when riding?......anything?
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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2010, 06:02:13 AM »

I've had stock shocks that have never leaked (7k on these) and I've had top drawer shocks that have leaked.  Many of us right here on this forum had the Progressive 440 shocks leak.  The good thing about it is as long as you have your receipt, Progressive will rebuild them for you.

Shocks are one of those things with many moving parts with fluid behind them.....some are going to leak. :nixweiss:

Russ, my experience is the first thing you notice is the shock oil all over the shock (and often the bike).  It's still rideable although it may be a little rougher ride.  Some people don't notice any difference.....I've pointed out to two members that their shocks were leaking.  Sometimes, you'll just happen to notice it before they do. :nixweiss:
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« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2010, 04:52:23 PM »

OK, what's the secret on adjusting rear shocks. I know you turn the knob on the left shock, but mine seem to be very hard to turn. Afraid I am going to break the knob off trying to turn this thing. Anybody else have this problem. Maybe I just need to turn the dam thing harder. :nixweiss:
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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2010, 05:29:35 PM »

OK, what's the secret on adjusting rear shocks. I know you turn the knob on the left shock, but mine seem to be very hard to turn. Afraid I am going to break the knob off trying to turn this thing. Anybody else have this problem. Maybe I just need to turn the dam thing harder. :nixweiss:

Mine came from the moco set to "0" (lowest) so it would only turn one direction at first.
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« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2010, 06:17:29 PM »

Mine was on "O" also.  But as I turned it, it quickly got tighter (harder to turn) in just a few turns. 

Other than that, I'm happy with those shocks.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2010, 12:54:34 AM »

Mine was on "O" also.  But as I turned it, it quickly got tighter (harder to turn) in just a few turns. 

Other than that, I'm happy with those shocks.
That's exactly how mine are JC, it only seems to turn a couple or three turns before it gets to hard to turn. Is that as far as it goes? Don't seem like there is much of a adjustment.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2010, 08:08:24 AM »

That's exactly how mine are JC, it only seems to turn a couple or three turns before it gets to hard to turn. Is that as far as it goes? Don't seem like there is much of a adjustment.

I don't know how many turns there are available (the manual says at least 19), but if you look in the owner's manual it tells you how many turns to do to adjust for the weight of the driver and pax.  The knob is supposed to "click" every full turn.  (It does, but it's not very loud).  You back the knob down to "zero" and then start your turns "up".  I adjusted mine 10 turns (clicks).  It was getting harder to turn, but I wouldn't have had any problem adjusting more if I would have had to.  I don't think it should be that hard to turn after only a couple of turns after you've backed it down to zero.  

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #73 on: February 06, 2010, 10:27:34 AM »

I adjusted mine when I had the tour pack and passenger so it's set up pretty stiff.  I've never backed it back down.  But I'm sure it wasn't ten turns......I don't even think it was five turns. 

If I've got time tomorrow I'm going to go out there and turn it back to zero and start over.  I'll count the turns back down, also, just out of curiousity. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2010, 03:57:21 AM »

$404 and $227 respectively, so a complete set would be about $631 MSRP.  Hmmm, that's up in the neighborhood of some of the better aftermarket stuff, like a set of custom built Works Performance units.

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At the "new products" listing it seems that these hyd shocks now are available as a set HD 54680-10 for $ 499.95
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2010, 02:41:12 PM »

Yesterday mounted thes hyd shocks without problems , adjusted 7 turns for the first ride today , result :
Very good ,
 My impression is that the rear end is faster in reaction when riding curves , seems to be more agile and has lost heavyness .
I think these hyd shocks are keeper .
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2010, 02:27:21 PM »

I like the fact that I don't have to carry around the air pump any more when go for a long ride :bananarock: :)
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2010, 06:24:09 PM »

Now i adjusted to 9 turns and it seems to be better- very good shocks for me .
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2010, 07:55:35 AM »

TOOK MINE OFF AND PUT ON PROGRESSIVES 11.5 NO PROBLEMS HERE
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2010, 09:27:25 AM »

TOOK MINE OFF AND PUT ON PROGRESSIVES 11.5 NO PROBLEMS HERE

You replaced the hydraulic shocks on your SESG with progressives without even giving the stock shocks a serious try?  :nixweiss: You may have wasted money on the progressives, IMO.  The SESG shocks are probably the best shocks I've seen the MoCo come out with.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2010, 05:36:34 PM »

TOOK THEM OFF MY ROAD KING
DID IT TO LOWER THE BIKE I WASN'T FLAT FOOTED
WHEN MY C&C SEAT GETS HERE IF IT LOWERS ME SOME
I CAN ALWAYS PUT THE STOCK ONES BACK ON
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2010, 05:26:24 PM »

so do you adjust it when you have pass then back down when solo?. and they come from dealers set at zero no turns? ive only put on 700 miles feels fine to me.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2010, 06:22:02 PM »

Mine and several others on here came from the factory at 0 turns.  I put 7 on before I left the dealership and it was a great ride for me, but spongy and liked to bottom out on big bumps with me and my wife on.  I adjusted it for 12-13 (I lost count...doh!) turns and two up is perfect and we're on the heavy side.  It is a little stiff solo and I could adjust it, but I don't get to far without the old lady so I leave it at 12-13.  I love these shocks compared to the old air shocks on my dad's Road King Classic.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2010, 06:48:56 PM »

thanks im 250# dry wifes not saying maybe ill post a pic of her and we can guess. she rode with today. and we did bottom out but it is a real bumpy road. i just went out there and screwed 5 rounds of wedge into big blue well try again soon
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2010, 06:53:13 PM »

I'm 270 or so and she's about 175.  If she asks, I didn't tell you that.  She'd kill me deader than hell.
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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2010, 10:53:40 PM »

I'm 270 or so and she's about 175.  If she asks, I didn't tell you that.  She'd kill me deader than hell.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2010, 09:48:41 AM »

My wife is selling her stock SESG shocks.  They were taken off prior to delivery.  She needed the bike to be a little lower.

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Re: Hyd shocks
« Reply #87 on: May 02, 2010, 05:39:53 PM »

what did she replace them with ?
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