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CVO Technical => Cleaning/Detailing => Topic started by: fos41 on August 24, 2017, 03:29:57 PM

Title: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: fos41 on August 24, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
Any ideas on whats up with my `15 CVO Street Glide Turning white? It looks like the black dye is leaving the leather.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: Joel on August 24, 2017, 04:51:53 PM
What do you treat the seat with after cleaning? Does it sit out in the sun allot?
I have seen similar thing happen on the rubber pads for the foot controls, where the rubber begins to turn kind of white. Was related to using Armor All.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: GregKhougaz on August 24, 2017, 06:07:47 PM

Try this:   Doc Bailey's Leather Black (http://www.jpcycles.com/product/900-432?utm_term=%5B74947197490%3Aproduct_type_l1%3D%3Dvehicles%2520%26%2520parts%26%2520product_type_l2%3D%3Dland%2520vehicles%26%2520product_type_l3%3D%3Dmot&siteid=NB_G_PLA&product_id=900-432&adpos=1o1&creative=42616808650&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8vnMBRDgARIsACm_BhJkHddx9-InHee8vwlLj84vKmSjWdoZmPMkToypy8IyB1cOGpXy0F4aAoYFEALw_wcB)
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: KGB on August 24, 2017, 06:24:50 PM
You may want to check with your dealer, I thought I saw something about this, I don't know what they can do, but seems others had same issues


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Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: fos41 on August 24, 2017, 08:44:24 PM
Generally use Lexol leather conditioner and a few times Maco leather treatement on seat. Prewash my`15 bike same as my `05 bike with S100 or Golden Spectro bike wash and hand wash with Armorall auto wash/wax no problems with the 2005 H.D.

 Bought `15 used w/ 5000 miles. I will check with the dealer see what they say.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: CVODON on August 25, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
Hopefully you remove the seat when you wash the bike? S100 a little harsh for leather/vinyl on a seat. That extra minute or so to remove the seat before washing goes along way in preserving the seat.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: fos41 on August 26, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
Don,

No have not been removing the seat which may have been a terrible mistake had a fear of getting water in the wiring beneath the seat, could be  a different dye process on the `15.   

Guess I was lucky with my `05 H.D. used the same cleaning method with no discoloration, I did not know about the Doc Bailey`s leather black that Greg mentioned plan to give it a try. I appreciate all of the input from everyone.


Donnie
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: Indenial on August 27, 2017, 08:35:10 AM
Mustang seats recommends only using Armour All on it's seats. 
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: CVODON on August 27, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
I use press-n-seal over the electric components and the paper air filter during washes. Cheap, any grocery store, works great. May be incorrect name but that is what is does, press-n-seal.
Doc Baileys would need to dry thouroughly, otherwise I think it might rub off on your clothes if you sweat, like me.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: DavidG_TKSE on August 31, 2017, 10:00:23 AM
Mustang seats recommends only using Armour All on it's seats.
ACtually they recommend ProtectAll.

Washing, Waxing & Treating Seats and Accessories

Mustang seats and accessories are made of the highest quality vinyl and will retain their looks for years without any extra care. Mustang seats can be washed with any mild, non-abrasive detergent. Mustang recommends ProtectAll™, a do-it-all type of cleaner that cleans, polishes, waxes, treats and protects every surface. ProtectAll™s water repellent carnauba wax formula provides durable protection against all elements. The quality of carnauba wax, incorporated into the formula, is largely responsible for providing durable protection. Simply spray, wipe, and polish dry for a beautiful, durable, lasting shine.

ProtectAll's™ anti-static property is ideal for treating vinyl to a clean, dry natural appearance. It leaves NO oily film to attract dust and dirt. With regular use, ProtectAll™s highly effective UV absorber additive helps to protect all surfaces by absorbing the UV light rays and blocking them from reaching the finish.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: GregKhougaz on August 31, 2017, 02:43:10 PM
Armour All was one of the first "protectants" for vinyl going back to the 70's if not earlier but there are better and less "greasy" products. I suggested Doc Bailey's only because of the OP's problem of the seat turning "white." It will fix that issue. As with any of these products, let it dry thoroughly. 

I swear by Protect-All and use it on just about every thing EXCEPT the windshield.  Best product for plastic and poly-carbonate is Plexus.

And I always remove the seat, bags and side covers before washing. Too much dirt under each to ignore. If you do your own work, it's better to work on clean parts. I would also like to think that if you take it to any mechanic, he'll (or she'll) have more respect for a bike that the owner cares about. 

As Haird says (I think),  "And thus endeth the lesson... .'   :coolblue:   :coolblue:    :huepfenlol2:   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: iski on August 31, 2017, 02:50:20 PM
X2 on Doc Baileys.  Used it for years, great stuff.  For best results leave it on overnight to dry before wiping down/buffing.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: Rooster on August 31, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
Armour All was one of the first "protectants" for vinyl going back to the 70's if not earlier but there are better and less "greasy" products. I suggested Doc Bailey's only because of the OP's problem of the seat turning "white." It will fix that issue. As with any of these products, let it dry thoroughly. 

I swear by Protect-All and use it on just about every thing EXCEPT the windshield.  Best product for plastic and poly-carbonate is Plexus.
ays remove the seat, bags and side covers before washing. Too much dirt under each to ignore. If you do your own work, it's better to work on clean parts. I would also like to think that if you take it to any mechanic, he'll (or she'll) have more respect for a bike that the owner cares about. 

As Haird says (I think),  "And thus endeth the lesson... .'   :coolblue:   :coolblue:    :huepfenlol2:   :huepfenlol2:
That would be Hubbard.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: GregKhougaz on August 31, 2017, 02:55:53 PM
That would be Hubbard.

Thank you!  And thank you, Hubbard.   :2vrolijk_21:   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: CVODON on August 31, 2017, 03:07:32 PM
Glad to hear I am not the only one who, as my wife says "take the bike apart to wash it". Good for you Greg!
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: Indenial on September 02, 2017, 09:32:34 AM
David, you are absolutely correct.  It is ProtectAll that they recommend.  I went out and looked in my cupboard and there sits a bottle of ProtectAll.  Must have been going by memory when I said Armour All-----and that is a dangerous thing.  Thanks
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: GregKhougaz on September 02, 2017, 11:20:13 AM
Glad to hear I am not the only one who, as my wife says "take the bike apart to wash it". Good for you Greg!

Good for you, Don. I can't imagine ignoring all the dirt behind the side covers and the bags. Especially behind the bags, the brake dust will lead to corrosion.

Kudos to Indenial for admitting his memory might be imperfect. I'm sure we've all posted imperfect information here and we all should admit it when that happens.

So, fos41, how is your seat? Just to be clear, I'm referring to the one on your bike.   :P
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: fos41 on September 06, 2017, 04:30:15 PM
Greg,

Sorry for the delay in replying. Bike seat is unchanged have been on the road traveling for work since mid August hoping to get some Doc Bailey`s when I get home and give it a go and hope for a better looking seat.

Know it is TMI, but my personal seat is rather sore since driving 2000 miles from Duluth, Mn to Phx. Az. since Sat. Tue. whes lol.

Donnie
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: fos41 on September 23, 2017, 08:13:36 AM
Finally got home and used the Doc Bailey`s on my seat which worked very well to improve the white discoloration on my seat.
Title: Re: CVO Leather Seat Turning White
Post by: GregKhougaz on September 23, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
Finally got home and used the Doc Bailey`s on my seat which worked very well to improve the white discoloration on my seat.

Glad to hear. (read)   :2vrolijk_21:   :2vrolijk_21: