Topic: Big Daddy's Wheel Swap Pictorial !!! (Read 23324 times)

The Mysterious Q! · « **on:** March 21, 2007, 02:01:29 PM »

Well I guess there is no turning back. So it begins.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:02:01 PM »

The before picture.

naitram · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:03:00 PM »

dont look now but you have a lot of painted parts missing

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:03:43 PM »

I hope I remember how it all goes back

More to follow when the wheels arrive. Stay Tuned. Later,Q

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:04:38 PM »

Damn cat burglars. I knew something didn't look right.

naitram · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:06:15 PM »

chit, they got your rims tooo

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:07:42 PM »

Wow they move fast.

naitram · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:10:54 PM »

better catch em' before the motor is gone

WFP · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:12:13 PM »

Not professionals...they left the bike on the jack instead of blocks...

Quote from: naitram on March 21, 2007, 02:10:54 PM

better catch em' before the motor is gone

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:15:27 PM »

Bill we have gentlemen hoods around here I guess. Got to get a guard dog or something.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:19:56 PM »

Phew, looks like I found one.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:20:49 PM »

Always on the look out. I needed him a bit earlier.

Chief · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:22:50 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 21, 2007, 02:20:49 PM

Always on the look out. I needed him a bit earlier.

Too cute.

Chief

RJ749 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:56:13 PM »

I see things are still up in the air with the wheels

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:23:14 PM »

Roger they will be here by Friday. That was a guarantee(sp.) from Hogpro.

naitram · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:49:20 PM »

did they say friday of which week?

RJ749 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:55:52 PM »

Sweet.

Did you tell them to ask for Blue Boy?

'cause you'll be standin' at the door holdin' your breath (turnin' blue) 'til they get there.

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2007, 04:55:41 PM »

Q...talked to Phil today about some "other" stuff...sounds like you'll be getting yours Friday!

RJ749 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2007, 05:01:27 PM »

Quote from: TCnBham on March 21, 2007, 04:55:41 PM

Q...talked to Phil today about some "other" stuff...sounds like you'll be getting yours Friday!

Mmmmm, I hate it when someone tells me "you'll be getting your's".......I hope in this case Q does though. He's waited long enough for this to happen.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:30:12 PM »

Well fellas the order was placed on 12/2/06 with estimated arrival of 3/23/07 thats only 16 weeks. they were close with the 6 to 8 week lead time.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2007, 07:56:03 PM »

Well I got confirmation.

Signature Required
Message from HOGPRO:
THANKS JOHN, JEFF AT HOGPRO

Scheduled Delivery: 23-March-2007
Number of Packages 2
UPS Service: 2ND DAY AIR
Weight: 95.0 LBS

Tracking Number: 1Z716TT13552986605

They are coming in tomorrow.

Fatboy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:42:21 PM »

Anybody know the current betting line on Q laying out of work tomorrow to await the UPS delivery?

I'm feeling lucky and ready to bet the farm he's a no show!

Fatboy

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2007, 08:53:25 PM »

Quote from: Fatboy on March 22, 2007, 08:42:21 PM

Anybody know the current betting line on Q laying out of work tomorrow to await the UPS delivery?

I'm feeling lucky and ready to bet the farm he's a no show!

Fatboy

I'll go for that one, or at the very least he'll think of something important he's got to "take care of" tomorrow afternoon...

Q...I know you are excited...this is going to be a dramatic change in the way your bike looks, and I for one can't wait to see the results

110tHunDer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2007, 09:07:43 PM »

Quote from: Fatboy on March 22, 2007, 08:42:21 PM

Anybody know the current betting line on Q laying out of work tomorrow to await the UPS delivery?

I'm feeling lucky and ready to bet the farm he's a no show!

Fatboy

Q, I've had some sort of creeping crud for the past week now. I've got the "Barry White" thing going on real good with my voice, so just give me your boss' phone number and I'll call in sick for ya!

Grover · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2007, 09:09:24 PM »

Looking forward to seeing the pictures Q

It's great to hear that you're finally receiving your wheels

Your little buddy on the bike looks to be a great tool fetcher.

Hope all goes well....

Take care,

Grover

naitram · « **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:26:16 AM »

any bets if Q is waiting by the front door like an excited little kid

RJ749 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:46:48 AM »

Quote from: naitram on March 23, 2007, 09:26:16 AM

any bets if Q is waiting by the front door like an excited little kid

I think it's a security thing, you wouldn't want those puppies sittin' on the porch until you get home. Think how lonely they would be.

naitram · « **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:38:45 PM »

are they here yet?

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:54:54 PM »

I did take off a bit early today. There out on the truck for delivery and I think I'm the last stop of the day for UPS. I went to the dealer yesterday and got all my chrome hardware and some more bling to install with the wheels. i will post as soon as they come. Damn is he here yet? Later, Q

ESJ JESTER · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:59:36 PM »

They are tracking the UPS truck with GPS. You gonna hunt em down by sundown

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:27:52 PM »

It all started by cleaning areas that were never accessible before.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:28:52 PM »

More cleaning and waiting......

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:29:37 PM »

The front now and waiting.....

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:30:25 PM »

Where the hell is UPS!!!!!

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:31:03 PM »

Maybe this way.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #35 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:31:39 PM »

I give up

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #36 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:32:23 PM »

Well while we wait lets add some bling

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #37 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:33:15 PM »

Installed bling and we wait.....

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #38 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:34:10 PM »

Oh wait what do I hear, can it be..... Finally there here!!!!!!!!

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #39 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:34:57 PM »

Is the anticipation killing you yet?

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #40 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:35:46 PM »

Yup they are in my garage 16 weeks later..

RJ749 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:36:15 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 23, 2007, 04:34:10 PM

Oh wait what do I hear, can it be..... Finally there here!!!!!!!!

Q, you must have been nearly the last stop.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #42 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:36:58 PM »

You all waited with me and here they are. What do you think? Was it worth the wait?

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #43 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:37:28 PM »

Old and new....

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #44 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:38:05 PM »

Front wheel.

RJ749 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:38:53 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 23, 2007, 04:37:28 PM

Old and new....

Wow, that will make an incredible difference in the look. Those puppies were worth the wait for sure.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #46 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:39:00 PM »

Wheel installed with spike axle covers. Looks great doesn't it?

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #47 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:39:34 PM »

Another...

RJ749 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:40:18 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 23, 2007, 04:39:00 PM

Wheel installed with spike axle covers. Looks great doesn't it?

You got it goin' on now Q.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #49 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:40:57 PM »

Well I have to go back in the garage and finish up. I will post more pics when I finish up.. Looks like i may need some LEDS in the fenders now. Thanks for looking and thanks for those who waited with me... Later,Q

Fired00d · « **Reply #50 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:41:53 PM »

JQ,
They look awesome!!!!!!

I really enjoyed the pics of you at the end of driveway that was some funny chit there.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #51 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:42:19 PM »

Quote from: Rjob749 on March 23, 2007, 04:36:15 PM

Q, you must have been nearly the last stop.

Yup the next to last stop.. Thanks for the praise Roger!

ESJ JESTER · « **Reply #52 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:42:44 PM »

Wow looking good!! worth the wait....yes

the spikes are way cool.. watch the shins when waxin

naitram · « **Reply #53 on:** March 23, 2007, 05:27:20 PM »

its a shame you gott cover all that up with rotors

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #54 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:18:03 PM »

Nice wheels bro. Now you need to lose one of the front brake rotors so you can see em. And to answer your question the wait, no, but then again I'm not the patient sort.

Like I said though, nice wheels.

Add a little sunshine and some warm weather and I'm sure they be downright freakin gorgeous. brrrrrrrrrr those pictures of your driveway made me shiver.

B B

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #55 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:57:38 PM »

Heres the whole package

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #56 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:58:10 PM »

Another.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #57 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:58:46 PM »

With the paint on.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #58 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:59:36 PM »

One more before I bore the hell out of all of you.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #59 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:00:19 PM »

And now I can have a few of these.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #60 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:02:58 PM »

All in all it was a simple job to swap the wheels out. I agree that I have to remove the rotor and caliper. Do I have to change my master to do that? The rotor removal is easy enough as long as I don't need to replace the master. Thanks for all the good words. i think it was worth the wait the wheels are real nice and I love the new stance.. Thanks for watching,Q

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #61 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:07:33 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 06:18:03 PM

Nice wheels bro. Now you need to lose one of the front brake rotors so you can see em. And to answer your question the wait, no, but then again I'm not the patient sort.
Like I said though, nice wheels.

Add a little sunshine and some warm weather and I'm sure they be downright freakin gorgeous. brrrrrrrrrr those pictures of your driveway made me shiver.

B B

That is your Dago persona. If I was there i would not have waited so long either. But here in New England, a place your familiar with it was winter and what else was I going to do.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #62 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:11:28 PM »

Quote from: 103tHunDer on March 22, 2007, 09:07:43 PM

Q, I've had some sort of creeping crud for the past week now. I've got the "Barry White" thing going on real good with my voice, so just give me your boss' phone number and I'll call in sick for ya!

the good thing about being self employed is that you call out sick to yourself.

Thanks any way Brian.

Later,Q

Fired00d · « **Reply #63 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:52:44 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 23, 2007, 07:00:19 PM

And now I can have a few of these.

JQ,
You deserve them for a job well done, and your patience through this process.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #64 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:02:50 PM »

Thanks Gary!

Hoist! · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:05:25 PM »

Johnny Q, the Wheelmon! They look great man. I hope you think it was worth the wait because that's all that matters. I think it looks awesome! Personally, I'm not sure I'd give up a rotor to see more wheel, but if you do that, change the master to a single disc master or you won't have the proper hyd. pressure, and the lever feel will be poor. Up to you bro. Again great job. You must be thrilled that it's finally over!

Hoist!

WFP · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:24:34 PM »

Q, they look Great!

WFP · « **Reply #67 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:25:46 PM »

but one question...will they help with frostbite on frigid October mornings?

/Bill

Quote from: WFP on March 23, 2007, 08:24:34 PM

Q, they look Great!

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #68 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:26:02 PM »

chit John
Seeing the complete profile I realize you're right. It would look lie I cheaped out if I didn't do the back wheel. While you can't see the whole wheel you see enough to notice the difference in diameter, stance etc. So now I guess when I find the wheel that I just gotta have, I just gotta have two LOL By the way I also see what you were talking about on the rims. That is cool. Real sweet.

On your master cylinder question, as I said I believe you can run a single disc with a master cylinder intended for dual disc, but not the other way around. If I'm wrong would someone explain why ?

B B

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #69 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:29:29 PM »

Quote from: WFP on March 23, 2007, 08:25:46 PM

but one question...will they help with frostbite on frigid October mornings?

/Bill

No but he won't shortcircuit some day and end up looking like Mr. Kotter having a bad hair day either.

B B

RJ749 · « **Reply #70 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:52:53 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 08:29:29 PM

No but he won't shortcircuit some day and end up looking like Mr. Kotter having a bad hair day either.

B B

Oh man, more old guy stuff.....................Kotter

Hoist! · « **Reply #71 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:07:05 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 08:26:02 PM

chit John
Seeing the complete profile I realize you're right. It would look lie I cheaped out if I didn't do the back wheel. While you can't see the whole wheel you see enough to notice the difference in diameter, stance etc. So now I guess when I find the wheel that I just gotta have, I just gotta have two LOL By the way I also see what you were talking about on the rims. That is cool. Real sweet.

On your master cylinder question, as I said I believe you can run a single disc with a master cylinder intended for dual disc, but not the other way around. If I'm wrong would someone explain why ?

B B

It wiil work, as you say. But that's not good enough for a properly working brake system. The hydr. pressure is different in single and dual masters, as they have different size orifices to regulate the pressure. The dual disc master accounts for 2 calipers operating together, with the calipers designed to work correctly at that pressure. The orifice is sized to provide the proper pressure for that application, thereby providing adequate and consistant lever feel. Remove one caliper, you change the pressure and do not get the proper feel at the lever. I have done this and personally would never do it again. These masters are engineered this way for a reason. HD brakes are not known as the best in the world as it is. Why jeopardize having predictable brakes for the cost of a new master? The guy just spent a small fortune on everything. I don't want to see it end up in a junkpile because he can't stop the bike properly. All for a $150 master cylinder. Not on my bike, that's for sure! Hoist!

displacing air · « **Reply #72 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:37:51 PM »

Wheels look great Big Daddy!!!

Really enjoyed reading the thread and all the pics...

Way to go!!!

Barry

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #73 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:45:21 PM »

Quote from: Hoist on March 23, 2007, 09:07:05 PM

It wiil work, as you say. But that's not good enough for a properly working brake system. The hydr. pressure is different in single and dual masters, as they have different size orifices to regulate the pressure. The dual disc master accounts for 2 calipers operating together, with the calipers designed to work correctly at that pressure. The orifice is sized to provide the proper pressure for that application, thereby providing adequate and consistant lever feel. Remove one caliper, you change the pressure and do not get the proper feel at the lever. I have done this and personally would never do it again. These masters are engineered this way for a reason. HD brakes are not known as the best in the world as it is. Why jeopardize having predictable brakes for the cost of a new master? The guy just spent a small fortune on everything. I don't want to see it end up in a junkpile because he can't stop the bike properly. All for a $150 master cylinder. Not on my bike, that's for sure! Hoist!

Sounds good on the surface Howie, but you're not supporting your position with anything other than a bunch of BS and emotion. " proper feel at the lever "

that's pretty subjective. I'm not saying you're wrong, but as an engineer I expect more in way of explanation than the song and dance routine of your post.

B B

displacing air · « **Reply #74 on:** March 23, 2007, 09:54:08 PM »

Dont need the front brake anyway...if the front wheel is off the ground!!!

Just ask Grover.

Go Big Daddy!!!

Hoist! · « **Reply #75 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:00:52 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 09:45:21 PM

Sounds good on the surface Howie, but you're not supporting your position with anything other than a bunch of BS and emotion. " proper feel at the lever " that's pretty subjective. I'm not saying you're wrong, but as an engineer I expect more in way of explanation than the song and dance routine of your post.

B B

I'm not an automotive engineer so I'm not going to try to explain it in that context because I can't. In my field of refrigeration, pressure characteristics of fluids downstream of an orifice, are based on the orifice size. The larger the orifice, metering the same volume of fluid as a smaller orifice, will result in a lower pressure on the outlet side of that orifice. Orifice sizes are carefully selected to provide the exact pressure that's required for the system. There's no debating the effect of orifice size on downstream fluid pressures. So if a system is properly engineered for a particular pressure, and a fixed orifice is selected to maintain that pressure on a closed, fixed volume system, changing that orifice size changes the fluid's pressure. Period. If your calipers are designed to operate at a certain pressure, and you arbitrarily change their pressure, why would you think it would have no effect on the matched components selected to comprise that system. It really only takes a little common sense to see this. And like I said, I tried it. Out of necessity, but I tried it. And it sucks! Hoist!

Grover · « **Reply #76 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:05:57 PM »

Congratulations Q on your new set of Shredders

Looks damn nice. You're gonna love those radials too.

Take care,

Grover

Grover · « **Reply #77 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:10:45 PM »

Quote from: displacing air on March 23, 2007, 09:54:08 PM

Dont need the front brake anyway...if the front wheel is off the ground!!!

Just ask Grover.

Go Big Daddy!!!

Wasn't me. Nope. Couldn't have been. Don't know how. Must have been an imagination.

hd-dude · « **Reply #78 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:12:42 PM »

Looks Great Q!

18 x 18 is ssswwweeeeeeettt on the baggers.

ESJ JESTER · « **Reply #79 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:17:03 PM »

Quote from: displacing air on March 23, 2007, 09:54:08 PM

Dont need the front brake anyway...if the front wheel is off the ground!!!

Just ask Grover.

Go Big Daddy!!!

this is gonna be AJ's motto after the blower/turbo Nos kit Chip is building.... like the infrared thermometers.....point and shoot.
I think the dual system has a piston stroke longer to supply the surface area of 4 pistons with the same pressure (2500psi?) and the different orifice size is proportional to the piston Diameter. dual vs single piston dia vs orifice. but the wheels are cool

its a balance to achieve INTERGRATION!

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #80 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:28:58 PM »

Quote from: ESJ JESTER on March 23, 2007, 10:17:03 PM

this is gonna be AJ's motto after the blower/turbo Nos kit Chip is building.... like the infrared thermometers.....point and shoot.
I think the dual system has a piston stroke longer to supply the surface area of 4 pistons with the same pressure (2500psi?) and the different orifice size is proportional to the piston Diameter. dual vs single piston dia vs orifice. but the wheels are cool its a balance to achieve INTERGRATION!

Are Chip's Angel's wings in workin order ?

Grover · « **Reply #81 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:30:51 PM »

All this talk about orifices along with singing & dancing seems to be off subject. Maybe should be on a singles forum

The talk about single disc is a moot point on Q's wheels. When the order is placed for wheels, they need to know if you want it machined for single or dual disc. Johns are machined for dual disc, so if he removes the right rotor the hub wont look right. You'll see the mounting holes for the rotor and it will look unfinished. That is unless he has a tapered end cap specially machined to finish it off. IMHO not worth it & won't look right.

Q's wheels look great as is. They have matching "shredder" rotors they go with the theme of the bike as well as his personality.

I've seen Q ride and he loves to haul ass and jam out. The man needs both rotors up front....That's a fast fact.

Hoist! · « **Reply #82 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:32:58 PM »

Quote from: Grover on March 23, 2007, 10:30:51 PM

All this talk about orifices along with singing & dancing seems to be off subject. Maybe should be on a singles forum

The talk about single disc is a moot point on Q's wheels. When the order is placed for wheels, they need to know if you want it machined for single or dual disc. Johns are machined for dual disc, so if he removes the right rotor the hub wont look right. You'll see the mounting holes for the rotor and it will look unfinished. That is unless he has a tapered end cap specially machined to finish it off. IMHO not worth it & won't look right.

Q's wheels look great as is. They have matching "shredder" rotors they go with the theme of the bike as well as his personality.

I've seen Q ride and he loves to haul ass and jam out. The man needs both rotors up front....That's a fast fact.

Thanks Mark and I fully agree! I really didn't want to get into a peeing contest with B B on fluid dynamics anyway!

Hoist!

Ceej · « **Reply #83 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:37:52 PM »

Big Daddy - They look great, curious to hear a ride report once you get a chance to scuff them babies up, also They are a lil taller so the speedo will be off a tad but the good news is the rpms drop a tad too. I agree you need to do the rear wheel - with the 18's you WILL see it and notice it. I switched HD duals to PM 6 piston single, replaced the whole brake line but didn't know about a differant master cylinder. Is there a Harley part number I need to get? I will say I have a differant feel,there's plenty of brake there - just comes on "Softer" - not really slower but progressive - grab a fistfull and you'll stop - in very short space - but no over the bars feel. I don't know but think the 18's and progressive front and rear helped here also - all in all the bike feels really really surefooted & nimble and no where near as heavy as my lighter Roadking when all is said and done. - Oh yeah - PM has a beautiful axle cap, blends right in

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #84 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:42:28 PM »

Quote from: Hoist on March 23, 2007, 10:32:58 PM

Thanks Mark and I fully agree! I really didn't want to get into a peeing contest with B B on fluid dynamics anyway! Hoist!

Big Dogs Piss Howie, little dogs pee

But for the fun of it, how many different fluid systems do you suppose there are on a Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer ? I've got CORDs on CORDs on CORDs in some of em. I think I understand fluid dynamics fairly well, but if I can't keep up I'll holler Uncle. So lecture away Mr Wizard.

B B
B B

RJ749 · « **Reply #85 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:43:37 PM »

Quote from: Hoist on March 23, 2007, 10:00:52 PM

I'm not an automotive engineer so I'm not going to try to explain it in that context because I can't. In my field of refrigeration, pressure characteristics of fluids downstream of an orifice, are based on the orifice size. The larger the orifice, metering the same volume of fluid as a smaller orifice, will result in a lower pressure on the outlet side of that orifice. Orifice sizes are carefully selected to provide the exact pressure that's required for the system. There's no debating the effect of orifice size on downstream fluid pressures. So if a system is properly engineered for a particular pressure, and a fixed orifice is selected to maintain that pressure on a closed, fixed volume system, changing that orifice size changes the fluid's pressure. Period. If your calipers are designed to operate at a certain pressure, and you arbitrarily change their pressure, why would you think it would have no effect on the matched components selected to comprise that system. It really only takes a little common sense to see this. And like I said, I tried it. Out of necessity, but I tried it. And it sucks! Hoist!

This is starting to sound luck a bad memory, right Brian (103). I see DSP cubed in the future.

Hoist! · « **Reply #86 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:47:48 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 10:42:28 PM

Big Dogs Piss Howie, little dogs pee

But for the fun of it, how many different fluid systems do you suppose there are on a Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer ? I've got CORDs on CORDs on CORDs in some of em. I think I understand fluid dynamics fairly well, but if I can't keep up I'll holler Uncle. So lecture away Mr Wizard.

B B
B B

No more lectures and no more pissing! If you're that versed in fluids, you should have know better than to recommend using the same master. Either that, or you do know that it will not operate the same with either master, but recommended it anyway. I won't mess with someone elses safety. Mr Wizard's done on this one, but he recommends using the correct master for the application, not the incorrect one!

Hoist!

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #87 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:50:46 PM »

Quote from: Hoist on March 23, 2007, 10:47:48 PM

No more lectures and no more pissing! If you're that versed in fluids, you should have know better than to recommend using the same master. Either that, or you do know that it will not operate the same with either master, but recommended it anyway. I won't mess with someone elses safety. Mr Wizard's done on this one, but he recommends using the correct master for the application! Hoist!

Okay, enough of this nonsense. Howie, I noticed you were almost to 3,000 posts so I thought I'd jack you around a bit to see if you've learned how to judge when I'm serious and when I'm screwin around. Maybe at 6,000 ?

B B

Hoist! · « **Reply #88 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:54:06 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 10:50:46 PM

Okay, enough of this nonsense. Howie, I noticed you were almost to 3,000 posts so I thought I'd jack you around a bit to see if you've learned how to judge when I'm serious and when I'm screwin around. Maybe at 6,000 ?

B B

B B, I gotta apologize to you and the other members. I had one of the worst days imaginable. Didn't mean to take it out on you. And I apologize especially to Q. This is his thread to show off his pride and joy. My entire day consisted of this very pissing contest! Sorry gang!!!

Hoist!

Grover · « **Reply #89 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:55:44 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 10:42:28 PM

Big Dogs Piss Howie, little dogs pee

But for the fun of it, how many different fluid systems do you suppose there are on a Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer ? I've got CORDs on CORDs on CORDs in some of em. I think I understand fluid dynamics fairly well, but if I can't keep up I'll holler Uncle. So lecture away Mr Wizard.

B B
B B

I must say this is some funny chit to listen to

Good entertainment

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #90 on:** March 23, 2007, 10:58:59 PM »

Quote from: Hoist on March 23, 2007, 10:54:06 PM

B B, I gotta apologize to you and the other members. I had one of the worst days imaginable. Didn't mean to take it out on you. And I apologize especially to Q. This is his thread to show off his pride and joy. My entire day consisted of this very pissing contest! Sorry gang!!! Hoist!

No problemo amigo, but don't apologize to Q He laughs his butt off at some of these wizzin contests. The fact that you gave me the chance on his thread was like freakin golden dude. And by the way, sometimes you do actually make sense. Happy 3,000th post Howie

B B

Hoist! · « **Reply #91 on:** March 23, 2007, 11:01:13 PM »

Quote from: SPIDERMAN on March 23, 2007, 10:58:59 PM

No problemo amigo, but don't apologize to Q He laughs his butt off at some of these wizzin contests. The fact that you gave me the chance on his thread was like freakin golden dude. And by the way, sometimes you do actually make sense. Happy 3,000th post Howie

B B

Thanks B, the mood I'm in, I probably better sign off now, before I piss off the rest of the group! I think I'll pull a Harry and watch from the sidelines for awhile!

Hoist!

hard10 · « **Reply #92 on:** March 23, 2007, 11:06:07 PM »

Quote from: ESJ JESTER on March 23, 2007, 10:17:03 PM

this is gonna be AJ's motto after the blower/turbo Nos kit Chip is building.... like the infrared thermometers.....point and shoot.
I think the dual system has a piston stroke longer to supply the surface area of 4 pistons with the same pressure (2500psi?) and the different orifice size is proportional to the piston Diameter. dual vs single piston dia vs orifice. but the wheels are cool its a balance to achieve INTERGRATION!

We don't need no stinkin' front breaks!

AJ )fastandbetterlookinthanrhino(

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #93 on:** March 23, 2007, 11:14:54 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on March 23, 2007, 06:58:46 PM

With the paint on.

This is just awesome John. Hope it isn't too long before I can see it in the flesh again. You know when I look at this picture of your bike, and think of Neal's and then go check out Elvis and all three bikes are essentially the same motorcycle, I understand this passion we all have for what we do. It's incredible that three bikes so alike can be so different. Harley-Davidson rules and they don't call em Road KINGS for nothin. Please post some close up shots of the wheels such as where the rims and tires meet, the hubs etc. I'd like to see some of the detail in these wheels you and Grover have talked about

B B

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #94 on:** March 24, 2007, 08:21:11 AM »

Quote from: Grover on March 23, 2007, 10:30:51 PM

All this talk about orifices along with singing & dancing seems to be off subject. Maybe should be on a singles forum

The talk about single disc is a moot point on Q's wheels. When the order is placed for wheels, they need to know if you want it machined for single or dual disc. Johns are machined for dual disc, so if he removes the right rotor the hub wont look right. You'll see the mounting holes for the rotor and it will look unfinished. That is unless he has a tapered end cap specially machined to finish it off. IMHO not worth it & won't look right.

Q's wheels look great as is. They have matching "shredder" rotors they go with the theme of the bike as well as his personality.

I've seen Q ride and he loves to haul ass and jam out. The man needs both rotors up front....That's a fast fact.

Mark , thanks for the good words. And for the brake deal I don't know what I will do. If I remove 1 side I can get my dad to machine me a custon hub. But I will ride like it is first and you can see the wheels fine when your doing the typical walk around the bike like people do when they check out your scoot anyhow. How much of the wheel will you see WFO on the highway anyway? And that 1 rotor was 200 clams!!!! For now it stays and I like the stopping power,especially when you have precious cargo riding with you.

Later,Q

BalDeagle · « **Reply #95 on:** March 24, 2007, 10:43:23 AM »

Hey BD - I have just sat and read this thread all the way through. Great job on the bike, she looks schweet !

Not too sure about what was going on with the hydrodynamics debate, but it sure gave me a giggle on a wet Saturday afternoon in England.

Make sure you have plenty of good quality chrome polish, we don't want those babies getting tarnished now do we.

Nige

Boatman · « **Reply #96 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:06:27 AM »

BigD-
The pictures of the upgrade in progress and the end result look really nice!

harleyteam · « **Reply #97 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:45:46 PM »

I think I smell something burning.

Howie must be thinking, and planning on what to do for the BIG 3000.

JW · « **Reply #98 on:** March 24, 2007, 09:01:20 PM »

That was fun.

Ive never had a chance to see before and after pics and I'm amazed at how much of a difference in appearance those rims give your bike, really an outstanding look. I am also (like Ceej) looking forward to a update in the future to see what you think of the way the bike feels with those beauties.

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #99 on:** March 24, 2007, 09:06:43 PM »

John...man, the wheels look great on the bike!! It really changes the entire look of the bike, and I think you made an excellent choice for your bike.

I wouldn't be concerned with the whole rotor thing...the only time they cover the middle is when you're looking straight at them, and nobody gets that view anyway. On a walkaround, they're going to see the total package and it's lookin' might fine to my eyes!!

I know you're glad the whole thing is done now, though I've got a feeling you're not done quite yet

skyglide · « **Reply #100 on:** March 25, 2007, 07:53:59 PM »

Graet pic before and aft.

Wheels sure make a cool ride.Thanks for sharing

Twolanerider · « **Reply #101 on:** March 26, 2007, 11:14:07 AM »

Nice John. REAL nice

!!

I was gone for a few days and didn't even see the new thread here until this morning. It is great you finally got the parts home. And it's a BEAUTIFUL difference on the bike. Man that looks sweet.

Congrats on finally getting it all home and on getting it all buttoned up on the bike so quickly. You've got a lot there to be proud of Q. Ride it happy and ride it hard. Because you know that's what something that looks that good deserves.

Congrats again. Looks just amazing. Can't wait to see it again up close some time.

Damn that's sweet........

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #102 on:** March 26, 2007, 04:20:10 PM »

Thanks Don! I think so too.

RJ749 · « **Reply #103 on:** March 26, 2007, 04:24:09 PM »

Since the discussion is going on about single calipers and master cylinders etc. it might be worthwhile to check this thread on brakes: http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=12002.0;topicseen

Sure makes one think about some new brakes.

JW · « **Reply #104 on:** March 27, 2007, 08:38:07 AM »

BigDaddy:

What were the pros and cons you dealt with in deciding on what size rims and tires for your scoot?

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #105 on:** March 27, 2007, 05:58:08 PM »

Not really many cons except with the tire size to what weight you can carry.I don't have a tour pack and I usually don't overload my scoot on trips so it wasn't an issue. The pros are the overall new stance and the look of 18 inch wheels on a bagger. If you have any other ?'s feel free to PM me and I will give you my cell number. Later,Q

CVOJOE · « **Reply #106 on:** March 27, 2007, 07:10:03 PM »

Q,
Man, those look sweet!

Now I must see what sort of refund (dream on) I get from the Irate Revenue Servicio this year.

Harley-Davidson rules and they don't call em Road KINGS for nothin.

Yeah, what Brian said..................!!

hogasm · « **Reply #107 on:** April 01, 2007, 06:34:14 PM »

Q, if you decide to go with a single front caliper then switch the master cylinder to a 9/16 bore. Stock is an 11/16 for the twin calipers.

Your rim company can send you the correct spacers and end cap to go with the single caliper

6 piston caliper if going to a single

Flush axle kit

S W E E T B R O

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #108 on:** April 01, 2007, 07:54:50 PM »

Quote from: hogasm on April 01, 2007, 06:34:14 PM

Q, if you decide to go with a single front caliper then switch the master cylinder to a 9/16 bore. Stock is an 11/16 for the twin calipers.

Your rim company can send you the correct spacers and end cap to go with the single caliper

6 piston caliper if going to a single

Flush axle kit

S W E E T B R O

I'll be Sam from GHOST here

DITTO

B B

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #109 on:** April 02, 2007, 04:01:59 PM »

Brian are you telling me you love me?

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #110 on:** April 02, 2007, 04:17:41 PM »

Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on April 02, 2007, 04:01:59 PM

Brian are you telling me you love me?

Whatever makes you happy Bro

Ceej · « **Reply #111 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:54:57 PM »

Quote from: hogasm on April 01, 2007, 06:34:14 PM

Q, if you decide to go with a single front caliper then switch the master cylinder to a 9/16 bore. Stock is an 11/16 for the twin calipers.

Your rim company can send you the correct spacers and end cap to go with the single caliper

6 piston caliper if going to a single

Flush axle kit

S W E E T B R O

Yeah what he said....also new lower legs !

Ceej · « **Reply #112 on:** April 02, 2007, 09:56:13 PM »

and that hub cap/cover mentioned earlier...

it never ends....BTW, I kinda think the 18"s make it handle a tad nimbler, could just be in my mind.

nidan · « **Reply #113 on:** April 18, 2007, 06:52:31 AM »

We be likin the new hoops

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #114 on:** April 18, 2007, 07:33:11 AM »

Thanks Brother! Hopefully I can get some saddle time soon to go out and enjot them. Later,Q

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