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[Twolanerider]

Trying to figure out what my options are.  Does anyone know if after a six speed HD gear set has been installed, and the case ground to allow for it, if that case can then only accept the HD gear set?  I've done the six speed conversion previously and have just significantly shelled a tranny.  Wondering if I'm locked in to the HD 6 speed gear set because of the case grinding or can exercise other options if they might interest me?

[sadunbar]

Trying to figure out what my options are.  Does anyone know if after a six speed HD gear set has been installed, and the case ground to allow for it, if that case can then only accept the HD gear set?  I've done the six speed conversion previously and have just significantly shelled a tranny.  Wondering if I'm locked in to the HD 6 speed gear set because of the case grinding or can exercise other options if they might interest me?

Holy chit, Don...  I don't know the answer to your question....but WTF??  I don't think I have ever heard of that happening...  What exactly happened?

I feel bummed for you.....sorry...

[naitram]

ok, first to admit i;m not expert but havent some replaced a stock 6speed set with after market? if so you should have plenty of options.

[Fired00d]

Even if it were possible to go back to a five speed would you be happy w/that? Remember you posted somewhere about doing it right the first time.... If you are used to a six speed and like the extra gear would you be happy going to a five speed? It's easy when you don't know what you missing, but suxs to have had something and not have it anymore.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Twolanerider]

ok, first to admit i;m not expert but havent some replaced a stock 6speed set with after market? if so you should have plenty of options.

The whole gear box; yes.  I'm wondering about working within this case though.  There are gear sets for a lot less change from others besides HD or Baker.  Just don't know whether the case work done to allow installation of the HD branded 6 speed gears locks that case in to that product for future replacement.

[Twolanerider]

Even if it were possible to go back to a five speed would you be happy w/that? Remember you posted somewhere about doing it right the first time.... If you are used to a six speed and like the extra gear would you be happy going to a five speed? It's easy when you don't know what you missing, but suxs to have had something and not have it anymore.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Even as a short term solution I'm not considering sliding the five speed gear set back in.  Especially with the torque supplied by the engine now, and where in the RPM range it is supplied, it's a bike that actually uses the six speed gear set.

This blows.  Am just wondering right now what among the aftermarket service alternatives can be used to ease the blow-ness.

[Twolanerider]

Holy chit, Don...  I don't know the answer to your question....but WTF??  I don't think I have ever heard of that happening...  What exactly happened?

I feel bummed for you.....sorry...

It's ugly Scott.  Was lazily crusing along a country road in fourth gear.  Watching fields and clouds.  It screeched for about a heartbeat then just locked up. 

Flat spotted the back tire.  Belt didn't break.  But it couldn't have been helped by the process. 

Fortunately kept the bike upright.  But god what a noise it made.  Something just broke in the tranny.

Was no hint or forewarning.  Didn't make a peep or feel at all untoward back and forth to York.  It just broke.

Gear box has approximately 20k miles on it.  But that's irrelevant to sudden failure of course.

The damn thing just broke.  And lord what a noise it makes.  Sounds like rocks in a garbage disposal.  Pulled the drain plug when I got it back in the garage.  There was an inch tall mountain of debris stuck to the magnet.  One can only imagine how much more is loose inside the gear box.

Crap.

[Fired00d]

Even as a short term solution I'm not considering sliding the five speed gear set back in.  Especially with the torque supplied by the engine now, and where in the RPM range it is supplied, it's a bike that actually uses the six speed gear set.

This blows.  Am just wondering right now what among the aftermarket service alternatives can be used to ease the blow-ness.

True dat. Just didn't want you to look for an alternative that would only mean you have to go back and replace it later.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Twolanerider]

True dat. Just didn't want you to look for an alternative that would only mean you have to go back and replace it later.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Nah, I'm pissed and frustrated.  But I outgrew those things also bringing on stupid a long time ago.  I may want to punch an inanimate (or redneck) object.  But I'm not gutting or changing a transmission twice.

[sadunbar]

It's ugly Scott.  Was lazily crusing along a country road in fourth gear.  Watching fields and clouds.  It screeched for about a heartbeat then just locked up. 

Flat spotted the back tire.  Belt didn't break.  But it couldn't have been helped by the process. 

Fortunately kept the bike upright.  But god what a noise it made.  Something just broke in the tranny.

Was no hint or forewarning.  Didn't make a peep or feel at all untoward back and forth to York.  It just broke.

Gear box has approximately 20k miles on it.  But that's irrelevant to sudden failure of course.

The damn thing just broke.  And lord what a noise it makes.  Sounds like rocks in a garbage disposal.  Pulled the drain plug when I got it back in the garage.  There was an inch tall mountain of debris stuck to the magnet.  One can only imagine how much more is loose inside the gear box.

Crap.

I am glad you were able to keep it upright.  That had to be quite a ride.  I had a rear brake lock up years ago, and I was lucky to not dump it...actually came very close to doing just that.  The bushing on the rear brake lever froze while I was braking...  took my foot off the brake and the brake stayed on.  That one gave me chills, so I know this one had to be a similar ride for you.

Consider your good fortune of not going down (the bright side of your adventure today) - and then go to work finding a solution... 

[kojak]

It's ugly Scott.  Was lazily crusing along a country road in fourth gear.  Watching fields and clouds.  It screeched for about a heartbeat then just locked up. 

Flat spotted the back tire.  Belt didn't break.  But it couldn't have been helped by the process. 

Fortunately kept the bike upright.  But god what a noise it made.  Something just broke in the tranny.

Was no hint or forewarning.  Didn't make a peep or feel at all untoward back and forth to York.  It just broke.

Gear box has approximately 20k miles on it.  But that's irrelevant to sudden failure of course.

The damn thing just broke.  And lord what a noise it makes.  Sounds like rocks in a garbage disposal.  Pulled the drain plug when I got it back in the garage.  There was an inch tall mountain of debris stuck to the magnet.  One can only imagine how much more is loose inside the gear box.

Crap.

You are a lucky dude! Most riders would have laid it down. Let us know what failed in the tranny and caused the lockup.

[hogasm]

Don you are only stuck if you dont have a welder for aluminum.

[SBB]

Don you are only stuck if you dont have a welder for aluminum.

I just happen to have a 6 speed gear set in the box in the garage.
What are friends for.
If you need it call me and it will be on the way.
But I don't do installs.

SBB


And FYI, the first Harley I had (73 Sporty) was a runner till the rear axle bearing seized.
Felt like an invisible hand had grabbed the belt on my pants and didn't let go till I stopped in the middle of the road.
All in about 5 seconds.

[spydglide]

I don't know the answer to  your question, 2Ln, but just wanted to offer my congrats on riding that thing to a upright halt.  Man, so glad it didn't happen on the FreeWay in the middle lane on a six lane at rushhour.  I think of breaking a belt in those 'nowhere to go' traffic situations, but never consider a tranny lockup.  Oh well, now you've successfully created another paranoid thought situation.  har!  spyder

[Twolanerider]

I am glad you were able to keep it upright.  That had to be quite a ride.  I had a rear brake lock up years ago, and I was lucky to not dump it...actually came very close to doing just that.  The bushing on the rear brake lever froze while I was braking...  took my foot off the brake and the brake stayed on.  That one gave me chills, so I know this one had to be a similar ride for you.

Consider your good fortune of not going down (the bright side of your adventure today) - and then go to work finding a solution... 

I know there was some good fortune to it.  Was only doing 45 or so but it still could have gone down real quick.  It stayed upright and I didn't even soil my saddle.  So after that it's just parts I guess.

The bike was running so well though.  And after fighting the thing all last year I was really looking forward to just riding it now.  No more temperamental bike and just some fun on the road.

I know, I know, anything can fail at any time.  And this has nothing to do with anything that's been done elsewhere.  Just "one of those things."  But it's still annoying and I still think the bike knew I was leaving for Sedona in a couple of days and just wanted to remind me it knows the Travel Gods on a first name basis (and I don't).