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[WTF Chuck]

There is a new M8 oil filter

[Twolanerider]

 So Harley is saying size does matter.

[iski]

25% more flow rate.  Price of the MKE-8 oil filter up 25% from standard filter?  50%? 

M8 engine has been out for 4 model years, just a few months from the 2021 5th year model & NOW HD figures out a need for a new higher capacity oil filter?  Doesn't exactly inspire a vote of confidence - if it's really needed.

[RivRaptor]

I sure would like to know what brought this about.  Issues with other areas of the oiling system because of to many changes to the oil pumps (4 versions) maybe?  And if so, what was the actual reason.  Well at least its safe to assume they didn't give us extra filtering media cause they had so much laying around and just wanted to get rid of it!

[scotman623]

Interesting!!!!

[mark]

Wonder how much more it’ll cost? 

[Twolanerider]

Wonder how much more it’ll cost?

$174 (more).

[skratch]

a new filter is $27,000.  but it comes with a new bike attached to it.

[rayson56]

Says P&A ordering availability 3/16 or so. Called my guy at the local HD parts counter for a price out of curiosity and part number doesn't show up in the system yet. 

[J.D.]

Do the M8 and TC use the same filter?

[WTF Chuck]

Not any more.

[rayson56]

Do the M8 and TC use the same filter?

Yes currently

[iski]

Not any more.

Reminds me of the old MoCo oil position & attitude.  MoCo sells no synthetic oil - no not needed, dino oil is fine, it's better blah blah blah.  A few years later the MoCo decides to sell synthetic oil.  After that they say - oh yeah synthetic is better & BTW it's ok for those old bikes too even though a few years ago we said dino oil was better.
 
It's almost like the MoCo is run by marketing mercenaries who have no absolute clue about motorcycles except the part about trying to squeeze every possible dollar of profit they can from those who own them by arbitrarily changing fluids types and parts based on what they sell, when they decide to sell it. 

[grc]

Do the M8 and TC use the same filter?

Up until very recently both used the exact same oil filter in production.  M8 bikes being built right now supposedly have the new longer filter.  I say supposedly because Harley has a very poor history of controlling running changes in production (as evidenced by the many re-recalls of things like hydraulic clutch issues, saddlebag mount issues, etc.).  For those who already bought a bunch of the "old" filters to have on hand, there is no reason to toss them or sell them to a buddy with a Twin Cam.  Use of the shorter filter WILL NOT affect performance or warranty on your M8.  Since H-D has decided to not be transparent (gee, that's a first) and tell you what their real reason is for the change, I wouldn't spend more than two seconds worrying about it or pondering their motives.  I think we all know by now their motives rarely include what's best for the customer.

Jerry

[J.D.]

I was more thinking of using the new larger filter on the Twin Cam, but then I remember that there's the cam position sensor in the way.